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Vendor sent wrong spokes, use in wheel build or send back?

Old 08-29-13, 11:10 AM
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Vendor sent wrong spokes, use in wheel build or send back?

This is a takeoff of a thread that I posted in the Bicycle Mechanics forum but I wanted to get some tandem owner opinions on it.

I ordered DT Swiss Alpine III from Starbike in Germany for 0.70EUR each and some expensive (posterior) shipping. The Alpine III's are triple butted 2.34/1.8/2.0,

When I received the spokes and got them out of the box, they appeared to taper in only one section and not two. My calipers confirmed it. It's thicker than 2.0 at the jbend, probably 2.3 but then it does a single taper to 2.0 and runs for the length of the spoke. After looking at the DT Swiss website, the spokes they actually sent appear to be DT Swiss Alpine I's rather than Alpine IIIs. The Alpine Is appear to be similar to the Wheelsmith DH13, which I know some folks do use in tandem wheel builds.

Should I just build the wheel with these spokes? They're not exactly what I wanted but otherwise appear to be functional spokes for the application. I don't really want to pay the expensive shipping prices anymore. I guess the only concern is, are these spokes going to be be harder on the hub flange and rim holes?

Here's the original thread: https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...cturer-options
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Old 08-29-13, 11:47 AM
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Not sure why such thick spokes are needed. I use standard DB15 (2.0 / 1.8 / 2.0) and they seem plenty strong enough.
Spokes that are more flexible are thought to last longer anyway that is whole idea behind butted spokes.
You could try selling them on Ebay if you don't want to use them.
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Old 08-29-13, 07:14 PM
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Bike team is in the 450-500ish pound range and the bike itself weighs 45-50 lbs. That's why the thicker diameter at the jbend. But the rest of the spoke was supposed to be 1.8 and 2.0 at the threads, not so different than the DB15 other than the jbend.
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I would say contact the vendor and request that they RMA at their expense. I have used the Alpine III's on 3 wheel builds and have been very please where previously spokes where breaking at the head the alpines have given no issue. We sourced ours from europe as well and 6 of the spokes for one build where incorrect. In our case they took our word for it and sent the replacements without us sending the incorrect ones back.
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That's what I am leaning towards also. Unfortunately the vendor is in Germany. The shipping was more than the actual spokes. Sending them back doesn't make sense. I may just cut my losses and buy some Alpine III elsewhere.
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it was the vendors mistake, have you contacted them yet? i would venture to guess that unless you inadvertainly ordered the alpine 1 instead of 3 that they will send you the correct item at thier expense. if not, we got ours from sjs cycles. price was reasonable shipping took a couple weeks but it arrived and save for one bag described above (they sell in bags of 6) they where the right product in the right length.
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The invoice says Alpine III 2.3/1.8./2.0. When I contacted them they just sent me a link to the Alpine III on DT Swiss' website. I will try one more time.
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