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Old 09-19-17, 03:20 PM   #1
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Houston - Post Harvey Bike Trail and Path Status

I didn't see this discussed elsewhere, but I figured we could use this thread to discuss which paths are passable and the paths which are not. The attached jpg is the path I take to commute to work.

Some questions I had:

- Is George Bush hike and bike trail open?
- Is the Terry Hershey trail underpass going under hwy 6 open?
- Is the Buffalo Bayou trail underpass going under memorial open?
- Is the Terry Hershey Trail open?
- Is the Buffalo Bayou trail underpass going under i-10 open?

Those are the areas of concern for my commute and I haven't had a chance to go do a drive-by to check.

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Old 09-20-17, 08:23 PM   #2
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I went under I-10 and under Memorial and Eldridge on the east side of Terry Hershey twice this week when the USGS gauge 08073100 "Langham Creek at Addicks Res Outflow nr Addicks, TX" was under 65.5 feet. As of Wednesday 9/20 9:00 pm, it had come up from about 56' to 65' due to the thunderstorms the last few evenings. However, they should still be above water level.

TH along east side is still dirty and there is soil up to 3" thick in places. It gets very slick when it rains.

In a separate post, Tommy 1955 had a picture taken on 9/16 which showed the steel arch bridge ľ northwest of Eldridge as closed.

North Eldridge Parkway from Park Row/Dairy Ashford to Clay Road had two center lanes open at 6:00 pm Wednesday 9/20. The USGS gauge 08073000 “Addicks Res nr Addicks, TX” was at 97.2’ at that point in time. Eldridge is usually opened to motor traffic at 96.8’ level.

The relevant gauge for the Barker Dam underpass of Highway 6 is 08072600 “Buffalo Bayou at State Hwy 6 nr Addicks, TX” but I don’t know what the “magic” number is for that.

USGS levels are available live on www.waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis “Current Conditions” “Build Time Series”. (Those of us that came close to flooding know these gauges by heart.)
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Hey Flangehead. Thanks for the info. I'll take a look at the gauge info.
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Old 09-22-17, 09:26 AM   #4
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Terry Hershey Condition 9/22

9:00 am Friday 9/22:

I rode mountain bike from new galvanized arch bridge at the Barker outlet to the parking lot at Beltway 8. In general all passable. County actively removing debris. Specifics by segment:

Hwy 6-Eldridge: Arch bridge 1/4 NW of Eldridge is open.

Eldridge-DA: Short segment with water 1/2" at construction site.

DA-Kirkwood: All new asphalt intact and no washouts! Mostly covered in thin dust/mud.

Kirkwood-Wilcrest: Again, muddy/dusty but asphalt intact except for a couple of short sections near the water fountain where new asphalt was ripped off by the flow. See photo. No washout so will be a quick repair.

Wilcrest-BW8: Dustiest/muddiest but all intact.

In general very good news. In short term it can be slippery.

North Eldridge from DA/Park Rowto Clay Road is uncovered. They'll probably open it to motor vehicles today.
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Old 09-22-17, 02:56 PM   #5
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that is awesome news. I am glad there were no big mass erosion areas like last year. this basically means i can do my full regular bike commute soon, instead of waiting months for repairs!
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The Spring Creek Greenway is the big trail up by me in Kingwood. I have a feeling it will be a few months before that opens again.
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Does anyone know if the path is open (not flooded) under Hwy 6? I was going to ride THP tomorrow morning but not sure if I can get under Hwy 6.
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Does anyone know if the path is open (not flooded) under Hwy 6? I was going to ride THP tomorrow morning but not sure if I can get under Hwy 6.
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Well I guess it's open if you like riding in about 12" of water...not me. I took the grass over to the light to cross Hwy. 6 to start riding at Barker dam. Still flooded where Barker Clodine stops to get out to George Bush Park. Rode THP from Hwy6 to that sharp steep turn close to Wilcrest. Still water at the bottom of that turn. Everywhere else in between Hwy 6 and Wilcrest is okay and the mud mostly cleared off the asphalt.
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Oops.. need to check gauge level..

Tommy1955, sorry about the bad steer. I went through there 9/22 and water level was so low that I thought we were back to "normal".

Obviously I was wrong.

However, this may give you some "feel" for the magic level for USGS Gauge 08072600. As shown in the picture, level on 9/22 was 63' and you probably hit it at 66-1/2'. If you think it was about 1 foot of flood, that puts it at 65.5' as the path level, which is the same as the I-10 underpass on Langham Creek from Addicks. Makes sense they would build them at about the same level.

See prior reply above for link to the USGS levels.

I shoulda just said it was open on 9/22. Sorry.
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Penance for Bad Advice

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Well I guess it's open if you like riding in about 12" of water...not me. I took the grass over to the light to cross Hwy. 6 to start riding at Barker dam. Still flooded where Barker Clodine stops to get out to George Bush Park. Rode THP from Hwy6 to that sharp steep turn close to Wilcrest. Still water at the bottom of that turn. Everywhere else in between Hwy 6 and Wilcrest is okay and the mud mostly cleared off the asphalt.
I felt doubly bad because a friend had sent me his observations on 9/23 and I hadn't read them closely enough. I confess my sins and have as penance made a new post with all the information I have.
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Not a problem.
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Tommy1955, sorry about the bad steer. I went through there 9/22 and water level was so low that I thought we were back to "normal".

Obviously I was wrong.

However, this may give you some "feel" for the magic level for USGS Gauge 08072600. As shown in the picture, level on 9/22 was 63' and you probably hit it at 66-1/2'. If you think it was about 1 foot of flood, that puts it at 65.5' as the path level, which is the same as the I-10 underpass on Langham Creek from Addicks. Makes sense they would build them at about the same level.

See prior reply above for link to the USGS levels.

I shoulda just said it was open on 9/22. Sorry.
BTW, I just wanted to tell you that I appreciate all the valuable information you provide. I'm pretty sure that the picture you posted showing the pavement all messed up close to the water fountain has been fixed for I didn't see any messed up pavement. THP looks so much better today than it did 2 weeks ago. I was able to get 30.2 miles in today. Plan to go back tomorrow for a little while but want to be home in time for the Texan's game. BTW, the bathrooms are closed at the pavillion (gazebo).
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Good news. Both Hershey Park and George Bush Parks were completely open this weekend.
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Excellent. Hoping to start commuting to work this week again finally.
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Hi!

I'm using Google Map and seeing hours worth of MUP west of George Bush Park (e.g. like Cinco Range subdivision).

Is there a good Android app to navigate these MUP?

I find Google Map very difficult to use...I have to zoom in very close to see the MUP...when I zoom out a little, the MUP disappears...very frustrating.

When I was travelling in Asia, some places have awesome indigenous Apps for walking and hiking.
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I was riding the trails around George Bush this morning. 36 hours after the Northwest part of the county got three to four inches of rain, there was still water over the trail at the place shown in red. We could have made it through the water today, it was not deep. However, whenever there is water over the trail in the 'red zone', I have always found water over the trail at the yellow area as well. I don't know how deep the water gets in this area. I just know the path goes underwater, and I can't see it coming back out for as far as I can see it.

Looking at the food gauge for the reservoir, it read 84.5' as of about 1030, when we finished riding. Not sure if this is much of an indicator as to when you could expect the trail to be dry though. The graph for the last couple of days shows the level behind the dam is still rising.
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Hi!

I'm using Google Map and seeing hours worth of MUP west of George Bush Park (e.g. like Cinco Range subdivision).

Is there a good Android app to navigate these MUP?

I find Google Map very difficult to use...I have to zoom in very close to see the MUP...when I zoom out a little, the MUP disappears...very frustrating.

When I was travelling in Asia, some places have awesome indigenous Apps for walking and hiking.
There isnít an app.
However if you turn on the bicycle layer of google maps it will highlight them in green. Iíve ridden a bunch of them and while they arenít fully interconnected they are pretty nice. Many force you to cross roads however, instead of riding underneath. The paths arenít wide and you have to give way in the grass to walkers and dogs.
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However if you turn on the bicycle layer of google maps it will highlight them in green. I’ve ridden a bunch of them and while they aren’t fully interconnected they are pretty nice.
OMG! Thanks for the info.
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