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Old 01-15-09, 11:08 AM
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"Critical Mass" ride?

I just got an article in my email about this "Critical Mass" ride that takes place in cities all over the world on the same day/time. I think I get to call myself a NOOB for another month, but I had never heard of it. It seems like I would have heard of it even as a motorist.

Here's the link to the article: http://www.active.com/cycling/Articl...ement=6&Dy=Thu

Has anyone heard of this? Do we do this in TX?

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Old 01-15-09, 12:26 PM
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CM's hapen all over the place. The effort to coordinate them on a large scale never seems to work out.

I'm not a fan.
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Old 01-15-09, 12:51 PM
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Evidently, there's not one in Dallas, due to lack of interest. There may be one in Denton.

The idea is fine, but the execution seems to be lacking. I think they get the wrong people involved in it- exactly the people that should stay home and watch TV, don't, and vice versa. There's been a lot of posts on it, especially in the A&S forum.
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Old 01-15-09, 02:02 PM
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i know they do it in austin and houston...like posted above, its the wrong people...most of the time they just ride around and cause trouble
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Old 01-15-09, 02:03 PM
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I do it in Houston, and we are not trouble makers, these are motorist lies meant to subdue the cycling masses.
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Denton used to have one, but doesn't anymore. We do have the Tuesday Night Ride though. Which, in the warmer months, had been getting upwards of a hundred kids on fixed/ss, 10speeds, mtbs, cruisers, bmx, and tall bikes. It's not a CM ride, but we jam up traffic and, to me, it has similar goal (meet up and ride).

There IS a CM in Fort Worth though. I know a lot of the people involved in it, but I'm not sure when it is. I haven't ever had the chance to do it. I can find out easily, and when I do I'll post back here.
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Another Houston CM'er when I can get away from work. Loads of fun a party and political statement all rolled in to one ride. Though watch out I see more spills on this ride than anywhere else, helmet for sure.
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Old 01-15-09, 06:49 PM
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I forgot about the Ft Worth Critical Mass. Doing some looking, I find:
"According to the flyers dropped of @ the shop Tuesday, it's the first Monday of each month, meeting @ the ITC 6:30 p.m."
(from this site: http://fixedfortworth.freeforums.org/ )

"the First Monday of each month it is.... Nov 3 @ ITC on Jones St Downtown Fort Worth."
(From this site: http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?...8-afc0c4774391 )
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Originally Posted by scattered73 View Post
Another Houston CM'er when I can get away from work. Loads of fun a party and political statement all rolled in to one ride. Though watch out I see more spills on this ride than anywhere else, helmet for sure.
What is the political statement being made at events like this and how exactly is that statement made?

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Old 01-16-09, 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Christopher View Post
What is the political statement being made at events like this and how exactly is that statement made?

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Kylejack posted this in a previous thread and it explained a lot to me
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...14458200750949

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This website used to list all the CM rides: http://critical-mass.info/
Go to it, see the square partway down that says "Critical-Mass.info is closed".
Read that, and the email quoted there, and you can gain some insight into CM.
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I think CM does cyclists in general a huge disservice. It is an excuse for hoolaginism and is not conducive to fostering good community relations between our community and the local population.
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Old 01-16-09, 09:32 AM
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I think CM does cyclists in general a huge disservice. It is an excuse for hoolaginism and is not conducive to fostering good community relations between our community and the local population.
Hm, no, I don't think so. Hooligans are not present in the Houston group, and the farthest it goes is a little light corking.
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Originally Posted by StephenH View Post
This website used to list all the CM rides: http://critical-mass.info/
Go to it, see the square partway down that says "Critical-Mass.info is closed".
Read that, and the email quoted there, and you can gain some insight into CM.
Crazy. Maybe it's because I'm an old fuddy duddy but I'd prefer to stay as far away from these CM rides as possible.

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I have been cycling on the roads of Texas since the early 80's. Never, not once, have I felt motorists subdueing me with lies.
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Old 01-16-09, 09:51 AM
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I have been cycling on the roads of Texas since the early 80's. Never, not once, have I felt motorists subdueing me with lies.
Stealth cager.
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Where did all the love go?
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Critical Mass is a fun gathering of cyclists riding their bikes, you should all try it some time. =D
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Where did all the love go?
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Austin has a pretty good CM turnout -- up to around 400 or so. And really, it's pretty tame. We ride around and don't really cause much trouble. They do a few things I don't really approve of, like do several loops around this one runabout, or going through the Whole Foods parking garage, but in general they don't really cause any problems larger (or even remotely close to) than a similar number of cars would cause.

(And really, if they do something you don't approve of, it's pretty easy to just not do it yourself.)

The only traffic laws broken are that some red lights are run, `no more than two abreast' is seriously flaunted, and some riders do cork. Most riders don't go out of their way to cause problems, and when the minority does, the rest usually gets on their case pretty quickly. And for the most part, the police leave us alone. In the last seven months, I'm aware of maybe three cases where somebody got ticketed -- though in one of those cases, a 16 year old kid was arrested for running a red light. Not sure why ...

Back in June, the police followed us with their helicopter. Not sure why -- they never did anything more than that.

And if you're not into the CM rides, the `Full Moon Cruises' have most of the good aspects of them without the car traffic.

I've taken a bunch of pictures at the local rides for the last few months, and they're available here.
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I may just run over to the Fort Worth ride and see what it's like. One of those sites there, somebody had been and didn't seem impressed, but I'm not sure what his point was.
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Originally Posted by kylejack View Post
Hm, no, I don't think so. Hooligans are not present in the Houston group, and the farthest it goes is a little light corking.
lol, man you must be riding way up in the front....

i'm a houston cyclist and driver...never been to a CM, but have witnessed them from my car....idiots take up all 3 lanes, run red lights, and just cause general chaos...i almost hit a couple last time (their fault)
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Originally Posted by mnkyman View Post
lol, man you must be riding way up in the front....

i'm a houston cyclist and driver...never been to a CM, but have witnessed them from my car....idiots take up all 3 lanes, run red lights, and just cause general chaos...i almost hit a couple last time (their fault)
Do not consider that hooliganism if done responsibly. Rolling lights is a time-honored cyclist tradition, and cars take up all lanes all the time, so the city can afford cyclists taking up 3 lanes for a few hours once a month. The Houston group does a pretty good job of traveling as a mass, so if you almost hit a couple you almost hit many.

We're not blocking traffic. We are traffic.
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Originally Posted by kylejack View Post

We're not blocking traffic. We are traffic.
this.

might get that made into a sticker.
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Originally Posted by thehappyrobot View Post
[ Re: We aren't blocking traffic. We are traffic ]

might get that made into a sticker.
It's pretty much a CM mantra ...

Hell, it's already a movie ... http://www.tedwhitegreenlight.com/cm.htm

(Though I think it's the same one as mentioned earlier in the thread.)

... though to be fair, just because you are traffic, that doesn't mean you can't block traffic. But ultimately, some drivers just like to complain about 200 bikes that intrude upon `their' roads -- but think how much worse it would be if 200 more cars intruded into `their' roads.
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