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Old 01-11-10, 11:31 AM
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Muenster German Fest

I'm starting to plan out my rides, rallies, triathlons and running races for the early part of this season. Is anyone planning to ride the Bike Rally at the annual German Fest in Muenster, Texas?

I'm interested in this ride, but I'd like to know more about the course. The hills aren't what concerns me; rather it's that #!@% chip seal I experienced at the first few miles of the Hotter 'N Hell and at the Denton Turkey Roll (at which point I swore I'd avoid chip seal if at all possible!).

Thanks for the input.
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I don't think there's much of a way to know for sure except to go drive the course the week before. The problem is that "old" chipseal is okay, so you can read ride reports or talk to the ride organizers and still not know for sure how good/bad it is for you. And they may be planning chipseal work right now that won't be done until the ride is done.

On my 26x2.125" cruiser tires, chipseal was pretty much a non-issue. On my current bike, I have 35x700 tires, which is still a lot cushier than what a lot of people use. That kind of variation also makes it hard to get good reports. You might consider going to a wider tire just for that reason.

www.bicycle-stuff.com has ride reports which will help som; read there if you haven't.

Edit: Between Forrestburg and Rest Stop #1 is part of the "Cheeburger! Cheeburger!" randonneuring route, so some of those guys could probably fill you in on it. But that's only a small part of the course.
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Yes there will be chip seal. A couple years ago we had fresh new pavement for the first ten miles or so, but that is the only time I can remember smooth pavement within 50 miles of that area. Just air down your tires and don't worry about it.
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This year it is the same weekend as the Southwest Tandem Rally in Paris, TX. So, we won't be there.

Last year was great weather, and the tailwind home on the mid-distant ride had us running our tandem in the high 20's.
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It's not bad at Muenster, honestly. I am VERY sensitive thanks to arthritic feet but I can get through this ride just fine. Go do it - you'll love it. I have 200-300ks I do through that area all the time and they're all great.
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as I recall, most / all of the roads that Muenster uses are 2-lane FM roads, so even if it's chipseal you'll have a smoother tire track to ride in.

the real killer with chipseal, IMO, is when you're stuck on the shoulder of a highway that never gets smoothed out by traffic.
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Last year was not horrible. The first about 10 miles was smooth. There were varying qualities of chipseal on the rest of the route.
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"shoulder of a highway that never gets smoothed out by traffic." Hear, hear! I decided this weekend that I'm going, dunno how far. As far as the lungs will carry me!
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I just did 63 miles yesterday at Greater Dallas Bicyclist's annual ride in Lancaster. It was a well-marked, scenic route with good support by volunteers at rest stops, in sag vehicles and at critical turns and junctures. The chip seal really sucked, however, but it still was not as bad as the Denton Turkey Roll last Fall. Here's to hoping the Muenster German Fest ride will be better...
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Well, the brevet I did yesterday included the stretch from Forestburg to St. Jo. Really, I didn't notice any problem chipseal on my whole route, but like I say, I'm also using 35x700 tires. What I did notice was wind, and that was the major irritation.

There were a few problem areas on the roads, but that tended to be potholes and the like, not chipseal.
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Originally Posted by StephenH
There were a few problem areas on the roads, but that tended to be potholes and the like, not chipseal.
Do you happen to know whether the potholes will be marked for easy identification and avoidance? That was one nice feature of GDB's Lancaster Ride.
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I've heard it's a nice ride and the Germanfest after the ride is a ton of fun. I'm planning on riding Meunster with some peeps from Lifetime Premier Place; we're caravaning to the rally then meeting up with some other Lifetime clubs from the region. We'll have non-gym members from Dallas with us and the more the merrier - it would be fun to meet some BF'ers. If anyone is interested let me know - I mentioned Lifetime just because I think they're intending to make themselves easy to spot so their cycle club might be a good "landmark."

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I may make it up there, haven't decided yet. I've never ridden that ride, but hear good things about it.
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It is a nice ride. Hillier then most areas around here, but the festival afterward is fun. When I went last year or the year before, they gave you coupons for 2 free beers if you were a paid rider.
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Should be a good ride tomorrow; we couldn't ask for better weather!
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I think I'm gonna go for it. I need the workout!
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Going to be a bit wet this morning. Maybe it will blow through before the ride starts.
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It was just raining here, but the hour-by-hour forecast seems to look favoraable up there, so I'm off here in a bit.
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Made it up there, rode the 100k, got a good wind+hill workout, and lived to tell the tale.


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Definitely the windiest ride I've ever done, but it was cool, dry and the road conditions were great. The route was well-marked, the rest stop volunteers were friendly and helpful, there was plenty of selections at each rest stop, and the SAG support was good. Overall, a very good ride which I would not hesitate to do again.
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Be sure and email that review to John at www.bicycle-stuff.com. See the "send review" link on there.

He was out there taking pictures, too, give him a day or two to post, and then go look 'em up. He was on a long hill around the 15-20 mile point, as I recall. He doesn't try to get everyone, just takes lots of pictures.
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John is good at catching riders finishing a long or steep hill. I think he has one homesteaded on the Goatneck in Cleburne.
John does a great job with his site.
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That was a windy, hilly ride! Lots of fun though - I did the 63mile route and have decided:
1) Next year I will pay large sums of money to have that trucking company NOT run gravel-filled semi's along our route...
...which is irrelevant as my other realization is:
2) Cycling routes along which there are wind farms should be avoided.

I made it in with an average speed of 18 and feel pretty damn good about it.

Today's ride the wind got the better of me and I went down as I was cornering during a descent. Sure could have been a lot worse but I don't think I'll be sporting a bikini anytime soon - not with road rash covering the better part of my left side. Ouch! I'm kind of shocked it happened today and not yesterday - must have gotten a false sense of security from yesterday's mastery of wind and hills. Oh well, I'll live to ride another day (just not in these shorts!)
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The wind has been a bit of a PITA the last few days but at least it's not 100 degrees... yet. ;-)
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It was stiff wind to be sure, but this is Texas - get used to it. Between that and the chipseal it's no wonder we have such strong riders. I rode with the lead pack for a while before getting destroyed up a long grade. I just didn't have the juice since I'd been running at too high an HR anyway. The whole pack split in half and I stayed with that bunch until a ways before St. Joe - I slowed down when we got to the big hills and the nasty wind - it wasn't worth getting blown off the road to stay with them. So I settled in for the rest of the ride and picked off the stragglers that were left. Had some great scenery - with those big clouds and green fields it made for a picturesque ride.
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