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Old 01-26-10, 05:21 PM
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Just witnessed cyclist hit by car this afternoon

Right before 5pm I had just picked up my kids. We were header towards Beechnut from Fondren. The light had just turned red and a White Buick side swiped the cyclist, causing him to crash into the curb. The cyclist got up and tried to get the driver acknowledge the incident. The driver tired to pull away, but the light was still red. The cyclist got in front of the Buick yelling at the car. Once the light turned green, the buick moved to the left and trying to get in the next lane to get out of there. I saw what he was doing and grapped my cell phone and got a picture of his rear plate.

An HPD officer was pulling into the CVS at this corner for a trouble call at this store, but all for other units. I left my contact info with the cyclist and he gave me his business card. I have e-mailed the cyclist the picture from my phone.

The cyclist did not have any serious injuries, but he was scrapped up where he contacted the road and curb.

Please be careful out there. This could have been more serious if traffic had not been slowing for the red light.
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Hit and run MF...I've had this happen to me and no one got her. I hope someone picks this person up and he gets charged.

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Old 01-26-10, 05:29 PM
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Believe me as a cyclist I was pissed that this happened. That's why when I saw the car start trying to drive off, I snapped a picture of his plate. I waited until that first cop came by and let the cyclist go from there.
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Awesome job man, I hope they nail the driver to something.
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Originally Posted by Mash Master
Awesome job man, I hope they nail the driver to something.
It is Texas...they won't.
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Originally Posted by txags92
It is Texas...they won't.
agreed.. i was rear-ended in my car last year, and the guy took off. i got his license plate, and a neaby cop even tried to chase him down, but the guy got away. the worst part of it all is that if you can't positively ID the driver, teh cops can do nothing. good job getting the plate, but you'll never be able to prove beyond reasonable doubt exactly who was driving. the cops won't even go to the guy's house to question him because the probability of conviction is so low. he'd have to incriminate himself and take full responsibility, but even a full confession won't hold up in court without corroborative evidence.

it's unfortunate, but that's the cold truth from the cop's mouth.
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on second thought, you might have a shot since the cyclist got a good look at the driver, but this will require some police cooperation.
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Originally Posted by MDfive21
but this will require some police cooperation.
Which is why nothing will happen. In Texas, the cops to some degree and the DAs especially seem to be of the belief that bikes don't belong on the road with cars and that if a bike and a car collide, that the cyclist should have gotten out of the way somehow. You have to find a DA who wants to establish the precedent that running over a cyclist is not ok...and I have yet to see that anywhere in Texas.

If you don't believe me, look into the results of the Breuhler case in San Antonio and the Stafford Campbell case up in Waller. The Bruehlers were run over by a guy who swerved off the road in broad daylight on clear pavement in good weather, and the Sheriff says he can't find anything to charge the guy with, while the DA needs to hire an expert to determine if there is anything to prosecute. Stafford Campbell was killed by a driver who ran a stop sign without even attempting to stop...and yet the officers there apparently haven't even written a ticket for running the stop sign yet.

Again...if you want to kill somebody in Texas, don't hire a hitman, just teach them to ride a bike, then run over them...you are virtually guaranteed to get away scot free!
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Originally Posted by aggarcia
Right before 5pm I had just picked up my kids. We were header towards Beechnut from Fondren. The light had just turned red and a White Buick side swiped the cyclist, causing him to crash into the curb. The cyclist got up and tried to get the driver acknowledge the incident. The driver tired to pull away, but the light was still red. The cyclist got in front of the Buick yelling at the car. Once the light turned green, the buick moved to the left and trying to get in the next lane to get out of there. I saw what he was doing and grapped my cell phone and got a picture of his rear plate.

An HPD officer was pulling into the CVS at this corner for a trouble call at this store, but all for other units. I left my contact info with the cyclist and he gave me his business card. I have e-mailed the cyclist the picture from my phone.

The cyclist did not have any serious injuries, but he was scrapped up where he contacted the road and curb.

Please be careful out there. This could have been more serious if traffic had not been slowing for the red light.
good work.
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Old 01-27-10, 11:22 PM
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I received an email from the cyclist. He gave a good description of the driver to HPD. Let's hope something will be done.

There was a bill that was passed and vetoed by Gov Perry requiring a three foot distance. If we do not push the issue then nothing will get done. The loudest group will get the attention. Until then, ride defensively.
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In 2010 BikeHouston and BikeTexas are planning to work with the City of Houston to pass a city-wide safe passing ordinance law (similar to the one that Austin recently enacted). The fantastic support from the cycling community (over a thousand people called Perry's office hours before his veto to express their displeasure) will be needed this time around as well. Stay tuned.
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They have already passed one in Austin and are working on getting one passed in San Antonio. The problem is that if it only affects the city, it isn't very effective, because there are a lot more riders riding in unincorporated Harris County, Fort Bend County, and Waller County than there are in Houston proper. Every little bit helps, but we really needed that statewide law.
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Old 02-06-10, 01:53 PM
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BikeTexas is planning to reintroduce the statewide legislation again, so it may pass just yet. The fact that several Texas cities have passed their own ordinances (San Antonio just voted yes a few days ago) can only help the bill's chances the next time around.
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Originally Posted by aggarcia
There was a bill that was passed and vetoed by Gov Perry requiring a three foot distance. If we do not push the issue then nothing will get done. The loudest group will get the attention. Until then, ride defensively.
... of course, it's likely that this bill, even if it had been passed, would have had no effect on this accident. After all, even without this law, it's still illegal to fail to give right of way (I assume the cyclist had right of way here) and of course leaving the scene of an accident is still illegal.

That said, I live in Austin, where we've passed the law locally 3 months ago, and while zero tickets have been written for it, I have noticed that motorists seem to give me more space than before, so maybe it's working.

Strangely enough, Gov. Perry (the guy who vetoed the 3 foot passing legislation) is participating in a charity ride soon --

https://riseacrosstexas.org/site/Page...Celebrity_Ride

... I guess he thinks we've forgotten? Or has he?
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Originally Posted by dougmc
... Strangely enough, Gov. Perry (the guy who vetoed the 3 foot passing legislation) is participating in a charity ride soon --
someone should shadow him less than 3 feet away in a car and see how he likes it.
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Originally Posted by MDfive21
someone should shadow him less than 3 feet away in a car and see how he likes it.
Better do it in the last 6 mile stretch in Hays county, because, you know.. austin managed to pass that 3-foot law, and the VIP ride is going to be police escorted. Hey! You might be able to get the first ticket!

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I had something similar happen to me, was sideswiped by a car in 1982, the driver looked at me as she was
passing (and I was falling into the car) and she drove off. I didn't get her plate numbers but the driver behind me did.
She denied the whole thing but the hand prints streaking down her door (good thing the car was less than clean!)
convinced the cops, she admitted the whole thing, didn't have insurance or a valid license. charged with felony
hit an run since I was injured (road rash, etc.). Don't remember what her sentence was, just that her lawyer tried
to say I should have been on the sidewalk. The judge looked at him, said that was incorrect and that she basically
ran me off the road, guilty as charged.


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It is Texas...they won't.
Surprisingly, HPD is very aggressive about going after hit and runs. I had a near miss with a driver last year. He actually tried to hit me. Got his license plates, and emailed HPD thinking I'd never hear from them. Got a call in few hours, asking for details and description. They found him...
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Austin too. There was a cyclist that was the victim of a hit and run on New Years day, and now they've got Federal Marshals involved in the search. (Why the feds are involved, I've no idea. There must be more to it than they're telling us.)

https://www.kvue.com/news/local/Marsh...-84022457.html

What's scary is that I'd just met her a few hours before and had talked to her a bit.
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I am glad to see some enforcement of the laws. One should not be allowed to injure/kill someone else and leave the scene and/or fail to stop and get away with it.
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Anybody got copies of these local ordinances? I could try to push it to the local council's Public Health and Safety Committee.
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good work detective.
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Hit and runs are so common. The drivers love to pretend like they did not see it. They just run us off the road and keep going. Good going with the cell phone camera. Mine does not have the resolution to get license plates.
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Zombie threads are so common, too.
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Thanks for getting the license pate photo Andy.
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