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Old 05-09-11, 03:59 PM
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Retiring Marine considering Dalls/Ft. Worth

I will be retiring from the Marines in November 2012 and very strongly considering moving to the Dallas/Ft.Worth area. The closest I've ever lived to there is Corpus Christi. Anyway, I am currently stationed in San Diego and over the last 7 months have become an avid road cyclist. It's at the point where I am almost ready to just stay here when I retire because there is so much great riding...but then I look at the INSANE cost of houses, rediculous taxes, liberal attitude, and I get a general sense that the whole state is on the verge of collapse. I gotta get out of here...but the riding is so good.

What's the cycling scene like in the DFW area? I know it's flat and hot. But other than that is there a lot going on? Are there many bike lanes? Are cyclists generally accepted by the public? Cycling is becoming a bigger factor in my relocation plans.
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If you are moving to Dallas then the White Rock lake is probably the biggest area for cyclist. In the summer time there are people riding there all the time. On the weekends I usually ride with the Richardson Bike Mart groups because White Rock gets really busy. There aren't many bike lanes but cars around my area are used to bikes being on the road.

Just know that you'll want to ride early during the summer to beat the heat.
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Plano/Richardson (Northern suburbs) have at least three LBSs between them and a very active cycling community. No bike lanes, but the drivers are mostly used to the bike traffic it seems. But yeah, pretty flat. I think I can do 30 miles with only about a 150 ft elevation change.
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I am actually looking forward to the flats. Out here every 30 miles has about 2000 feet of elevation no matter where you ride. I'm actually looking more in the Ft.Worth/Arlington area. My goal is to get on with Lockheed Martin way out there in West Ft. Worth.
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It's kind of hard to say because not many of us have ridden in your area to compare.

There's a fair bit of cycling going on. If you get on a popular route, you'll see people, otherwise, you can ride for miles and miles and not see anyone on a bike.

Very few bike lanes, and the ones I've seen were on roads that really didn't need them anyway. Bike trails here and there, but generally not like the mini-highways I see pictures of in CA. Best riding is actually on the roads, the trick is finding the best road for it. The "flat" is relative, there are hills around, but nothing too big right in the DFW area, and no mountain climbs anywhere close.

Check out Lone Star Randonneurs, we tend to get out of town for our rides. Fort Worth Bicycling Association seems to be very active, and Greater Dallas Bicyclists has some good rides. Plano seems to be the most bike-oriented city in the area.
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There are 16 bicycle shops and a sporting goods store with a huge bicycle department in Tarrant County. In Fort Worth there are over 40 miles of mostly paved trails along the Trinity River. There are several local bike clubs and other informal riding groups in town. There is some kind of organized ride in the area every-day of the week. There are every kind of rides going on, from racers-in-training to groups that include small children. I ride on a pub-crawl every Sunday night that goes about 11 miles and stops at 2 bars along the way.

Fort Worth is making major strides to becoming a seriously bike-friendly city. Arlington is taking baby-steps. They have sone bike trails scattered through the city and have plans that will connect them. They have a plan put together that would do more, but a group of citzens is pushing back so hard that the plan that will be ok'd by the city council will only do 1/4 of what it should.

Come out and spend about a week here. Contact some of us before you come and rent or borrow a bike and see what you think.
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Originally Posted by ScottStr View Post
There are 16 bicycle shops and a sporting goods store with a huge bicycle department in Tarrant County. In Fort Worth there are over 40 miles of mostly paved trails along the Trinity River. There are several local bike clubs and other informal riding groups in town. There is some kind of organized ride in the area every-day of the week. There are every kind of rides going on, from racers-in-training to groups that include small children. I ride on a pub-crawl every Sunday night that goes about 11 miles and stops at 2 bars along the way.

Fort Worth is making major strides to becoming a seriously bike-friendly city. Arlington is taking baby-steps. They have sone bike trails scattered through the city and have plans that will connect them. They have a plan put together that would do more, but a group of citzens is pushing back so hard that the plan that will be ok'd by the city council will only do 1/4 of what it should.

Come out and spend about a week here. Contact some of us before you come and rent or borrow a bike and see what you think.
I've been to the area on some business trips in the past and love it. I'm a die-hard Cowboys fan so DFW is a natural place for me. Sounds like cycling is fairly accepted out there and gaining momentum. I think I'm just spoiled being out here. Almost every road had a bike lane and cyclists are a very large political entity on the left coast.
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We've got a long way to go to get there. Too many rednecks that think the only way to get anywhere is in their pickups or their wives' SUVs. Some of us are trying real hard to move things along.
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If you are going to get on at Lockheed then Ft. Worth would probably be your best choice. A group in Arlington is pushing against the bike plan and it is also the largest city in the country without public transportation. So Arlington is pretty car centered. That is just the way I feel about it.
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Originally Posted by pgjackson View Post
I've been to the area on some business trips in the past and love it. I'm a die-hard Cowboys fan so DFW is a natural place for me. Sounds like cycling is fairly accepted out there and gaining momentum. I think I'm just spoiled being out here. Almost every road had a bike lane and cyclists are a very large political entity on the left coast.
I was Army active 9yrs and reserve 3yrs. I also did contract work in Iraq.
My brother is a Marine in SD too. He will be retiring next year too. He plans to move here to Dallas. It would be nice to have him here.

I have been riding every week since Feb this year and I commute at least 3 times a week by bike. I do road cycling on the weekend and commute with my cyclocross bike during the week. It's been a fun year so far. I have plan to do a few races gearing up for this falls cyclocross. So I say come to Dallas!!

I'm a begginer at cycling I put 400 miles on my road bike in a month and just started riding my new cross bike. So for now my bikes will do.

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Originally Posted by Magnificent777 View Post
I was Army active 9yrs and reserve 3yrs. I also did contract work in Iraq.
My brother is a Marine in SD too. He will be retiring next year too. He plans to move here to Dallas. It would be nice to have him here.

I have been riding every week since Feb this year and I commute at least 3 times a week by bike. I do road cycling on the weekend and commute with my cyclocross bike during the week. It's been a fun year so far. I have plan to do a few races gearing up for this falls cyclocross. So I say come to Dallas!!

I'm a begginer at cycling I put 400 miles on my road bike in a month and just started riding my new cross bike. So for now my bikes will do.

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Those King Snake cables are sweet! Where did you get them? Looks like you have the beer bottle headset cap as well. Nice!
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I ride with the Lockheed-Martin Recreation Association bike club. We generally ride in the southwest quadrant of Fort Worth and outlying areas. Parker County (Weatherford, Aledo) is not flat. The park roads at Lake Benbrook are quite popular with cyclists and many in our club live nearby for cycling opportunities and proximity to work.

Many LM employees are retired military. Recreation is a priority for city of Benbrook; housing in the area is relatively inexpensive.

My bike commute to work is 16 miles each way. For most of the ride I am on designated bike routes and bike lanes, roads with wide outside lanes/shoulders, school zones, a short stretch on a MUP; and low-traffic residential streets. There are several barriers (construction, low-water crossings, rivers, train tracks, interstates, high-speed arterials) so it does take planning.
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I ride with the Lockheed-Martin Recreation Association bike club. We generally ride in the southwest quadrant of Fort Worth and outlying areas. Parker County (Weatherford, Aledo) is not flat. The park roads at Lake Benbrook are quite popular with cyclists and many in our club live nearby for cycling opportunities and proximity to work.

Many LM employees are retired military. Recreation is a priority for city of Benbrook; housing in the area is relatively inexpensive.

My bike commute to work is 16 miles each way. For most of the ride I am on designated bike routes and bike lanes, roads with wide outside lanes/shoulders, school zones, a short stretch on a MUP; and low-traffic residential streets. There are several barriers (construction, low-water crossings, rivers, train tracks, interstates, high-speed arterials) so it does take planning.
Do you work for Lockheed? Military guys are used to getting "PT" time during the work day (but 10-12 hours a day is pretty standard in the military). Does LM allow for exercise during the day or is it one of those "do it on your own time" deals? My commute here in SD is 36 miles one way. I'd love to be 15 miles from work. I'd ride in all the time.
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Those King Snake cables are sweet! Where did you get them? Looks like you have the beer bottle headset cap as well. Nice!
Actually the cables are black and with a touch of creativity I personalized it with vinyl bar tape.

I did the same for my cross bike. It's doesn't look bad.
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All exercise would be on your own time. LM schedule flexibility depends considerably on your job duties. Some are on very rigid factory whistle shift start/end/breaks. Others have way much more flexibility; but we still need to be available, accountable, productive, and getting assigned tasks done. Probably no different than any other big company working with gov't contracts. My area is quite flexible. I can usually work a short day to fit in a bike ride if I don't have meetings scheduled or an impending deadline; but I need to work a long day the same week to get my work done/40 hours.
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Allen/Plano/Mckinney is where its at! Country roads are within very close (5-10 mile) vicinity depending on where you're at. New Hope, Blue Ridge, Princeton via Lowry Crossing are where you want to ride.

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I'm looking at Keller possibly. Schools will be a major factor in where my family lives.
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There are some trails along Fosil creek in Keller. I'm sure you'll want to have a bike-rack on the car to take you bike to all the best places, just like almost all of us do.
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There are some trails along Fosil creek in Keller. I'm sure you'll want to have a bike-rack on the car to take you bike to all the best places, just like almost all of us do.
Already have a bike rack. I take my bike with me to work 3-4 times a week and ride during lunch. I can be at Ocenaside Beach from my office in about a 30 minute ride. When you say trails, do you mean MTB or road bike?
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Along Fossil Creek, they are paved multi-use trails. There are some areas of the Trinity Trails through Fort Worth that are crushed limestone; not as road-bike-friendly as pavement, but doable. There are several areas of mountain bike trails around. The FWMBA maintains trails at Gateway Park in East Fort Worth and Buck Sansom Park in Northwest Fort Worth. There's a pretty good mountain bike trail in River Legacy Park in North Arlington.
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I'm looking at Keller possibly. Schools will be a major factor in where my family lives.
How old are your kids? Keller schools are pretty good, but you're out in the urban sprawl of suburbia. I'm in the sprawl areas to the south, near Crowley, and am interested in moving closer to downtown. BF member pallen lives in the Magnolia/Fairmount area and I think his kids go to Fort Worth ISD schools. ScottStr's kids went to FWISD too, I believe. My wife teaches in the district. We ended up in Crowley ISD but I wouldn't automatically write off FWISD just because they are "urban".

And... while I have a bike rack, I rarely use it; I ride to and from almost all my rides (which adds 15-20 miles to most of them). Living closer in would be a plus for me.

If you're really into the road cycling scene, there are several clubs to look into: the Lockheed Bike Club that nkfrench and I belong to, MBBC (yes, it stands for Manly Bulge Bike Club), FW Bike Assoc., etc. For more social rides there are several loosely organized groups you can find out about through the Fort Worth Night Riders on Facebook... including the pub ride ScottStr referred to. I've probably missed a club or two.
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How old are your kids? Keller schools are pretty good, but you're out in the urban sprawl of suburbia. I'm in the sprawl areas to the south, near Crowley, and am interested in moving closer to downtown. BF member pallen lives in the Magnolia/Fairmount area and I think his kids go to Fort Worth ISD schools. ScottStr's kids went to FWISD too, I believe. My wife teaches in the district. We ended up in Crowley ISD but I wouldn't automatically write off FWISD just because they are "urban".

And... while I have a bike rack, I rarely use it; I ride to and from almost all my rides (which adds 15-20 miles to most of them). Living closer in would be a plus for me.

If you're really into the road cycling scene, there are several clubs to look into: the Lockheed Bike Club that nkfrench and I belong to, MBBC (yes, it stands for Manly Bulge Bike Club), FW Bike Assoc., etc. For more social rides there are several loosely organized groups you can find out about through the Fort Worth Night Riders on Facebook... including the pub ride ScottStr referred to. I've probably missed a club or two.
My oldest son will be starting HS the year I retire and my daughter will be two years behind, so I'm looking for top rated high schools. Keller looks like it has two very highly rated schools and it's pretty close to Lockheed. I was also looking at Flower Mound and Southlakes, but those are a little far away (assuming LM is where I land a job). My current commute is 36 miles one way, but that's what it took to find a great school district in San Diego. I hate the commute, so I'm looking to be a lot closer in my next job.
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Wow, that is REAL Old Corps there.
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Assuming you end up on the west side of town (Lockheed), Aledo is another option you may want to consider. More rural but just outside of town.
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