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Old 05-17-16, 04:10 PM
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So what happened to the dog? Thats the important part!
duh! trolls eat dog, y'know.

but yes, do regale us.
why did they throw your
unwashed donkey in the slammer
for a year.....
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My dog is safe and happy at my moms. She ran harder and longer than I expected her to the first couple days, so the 3rd day she could barely walk because her legs were so sore and wobbly. So she laid in her trailer until her soreness healed. While I was at a gas station, some drunk redneck seen her wobbling out of her trailer to do her business and accused me of abusing my dog. One thing led to another and he taunted me to "come get some". I made a terrible choice by punching him in the face. His girlfriend called the police. Big deal, I thought... misdemeanor simple assault. Not in Florida. I was charged with a first degree felony burglary with assault or battery, punishable by life in prison. He was sitting inside his parked car when I punched him through his open window. It's burglary because I "entered the box he was contained in uninvited". Long story short, I sat in jail fighting the case with a public defender for 7 months before I was able to convince them that I'm an alcoholic and to send me to rehab instead of prison. I'm in the 6 month rehab now. I get out in August. I'm not saying that I was in the right in anyway, it was just a bad choice in a bad situation.

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...She ran harder and longer than I expected her to the first couple days, so the 3rd day she could barely walk because her legs were so sore and wobbly. So she laid in her trailer until her soreness healed. While I was at a gas station, some drunk redneck seen her wobbling out of her trailer to do her business and accused me of abusing my dog......
apparently he wasn't "blind" drunk......
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Glad your dog made it.
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This one time at band camp....
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Originally Posted by tunaofthedirt View Post
My dog is safe and happy at my moms. She ran harder and longer than I expected her to the first couple days, so the 3rd day she could barely walk because her legs were so sore and wobbly. So she laid in her trailer until her soreness healed. While I was at a gas station, some drunk redneck seen her wobbling out of her trailer to do her business and accused me of abusing my dog. One thing led to another and he taunted me to "come get some". I made a terrible choice by punching him in the face. His girlfriend called the police. Big deal, I thought... misdemeanor simple assault. Not in Florida. I was charged with a first degree felony burglary with assault or battery, punishable by life in prison. He was sitting inside his parked car when I punched him through his open window. It's burglary because I "entered the box he was contained in uninvited". Long story short, I sat in jail fighting the case with a public defender for 7 months before I was able to convince them that I'm an alcoholic and to send me to rehab instead of prison. I'm in the 6 month rehab now. I get out in August. I'm not saying that I was in the right in anyway, it was just a bad choice in a bad situation.
The drunk had more sense than you. You got what you deserved.

Try running behind someone some time with your only concern is to please that person and no concern for yourself. Lets see how that turns out after 10 or twenty miles.
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Old 05-18-16, 06:18 PM
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13 months for forcing a dog to run after you until she collapsed. You got off easy.
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A DC biker friend actually got sent to jail for the afternoon after punching a smart-ass Yuppie pedestrian who cut him off.
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I think the dog will get heat exhaustion or even heat stroke. Read about on the interwebz, there is plenty of info about it.

What kind of dog is it? What do you think the temperature will be? I have thousands of miles ridden with the dog in the back of a trike in hot weather. I don't take him in hot weather any more. Keeping him wet with a cooling vest is a big help. In August there is more heat coming up from the pavement than from the sun, I have checked it with with a thermometer. You can actually feel it with your hands. And, of course you block most of the breeze to the dog with the bike, he will always be hotter than you will be. The same is true, and even worse, with a baby seat with a kid.
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Old 05-19-16, 08:17 AM
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Lol. She wasn't towing me. She insisted on running. She loves it. She just over-did herself. I had to pay an $85 vet bill that said the dog was happy and healthy and not abused. I may have been in the wrong for hitting the dude, but I do not abuse my dog.
She's a Pharaoh Hound.
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Old 05-20-16, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by tunaofthedirt View Post
Lol. She wasn't towing me. She insisted on running. She loves it. She just over-did herself. I had to pay an $85 vet bill that said the dog was happy and healthy and not abused. I may have been in the wrong for hitting the dude, but I do not abuse my dog.
She's a Pharaoh Hound.
That's a running dog! She just overdid herself. I'm sorry about your misfortune due to your lack of good judgment.

As far as dogs go, my younger brother used to have a black lab mix pull him around on his skateboard doing his newspaper route every day of the week when he was a kid in the late 70's and early 80's. Neighbours would sometimes threaten to call animal control because they thought the dog was somehow being hurt. He ensured the dog had treats and water when he was "working" and the dog seemed to enjoy it - it wasn't as if the dog would run the other way when he'd see the leash come out and it was time to do the paper route. The dog actually "learned" the paper route over time and learned to slow down or stop where he had deliveries. The dog lived a long and healthy life, living to about 15 years old.

So @spinnaker and @jimmie65 I suppose you'd support the actions of these folks then.
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Exactly how do you see a connection between not wanting a dog to be dragged behind a bike until she collapses and some idiots putting a bison calf in their car? Rather large stretch of logic there. This dog was not acclimated to running that far and that hard for multiple days. The fact that the dog could barely walk on the 3rd day shows how abusive this was.
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I'm reminded of the crap Mitt Romney got for carrying the family dog around in a roof rack on the family car. People talked like it was animal cruelty, but I bet the dog loved it. Mine sure would.
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Originally Posted by jimmie65 View Post
Exactly how do you see a connection between not wanting a dog to be dragged behind a bike until she collapses and some idiots putting a bison calf in their car? Rather large stretch of logic there. This dog was not acclimated to running that far and that hard for multiple days. The fact that the dog could barely walk on the 3rd day shows how abusive this was.
Admittedly the bison story is a stretch of logic. My point is that animals aren't people. We don't know what they do or don't like. We can't always tell when they're in distress (the people thought the bison was "cold") or doing just fine.

The dog may not have been acclimated to running like he had her running, but there seemingly was no indication the dog was in distress either. By his own admission "(s)he ran harder and longer than I expected her to the first couple days, so the 3rd day she could barely walk because her legs were so sore and wobbly. So she laid in her trailer until her soreness healed." It wasn't like he forced the dog to continue on walking or running. The dog was in the trailer resting. I think the running just caught up with the dog by the third day. The same thing happens to people - we push ourselves a bit further than we think and don't come to that realisation until after it has happened. I don't see anything tunaofthedirt did as being intentionally abusive.

Let's face it: dogs, cats, ferrets, rabbits, etc. are property. We need to treat animals humanely and, for me, that's where it ends morally and legally whether you are referring to wild, tamed or domesticated animals.
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I'm reminded of the crap Mitt Romney got for carrying the family dog around in a roof rack on the family car. People talked like it was animal cruelty, but I bet the dog loved it. Mine sure would.
Ha, I had forgotten about that story. Gotta love the stories that come out during campaign time like a large dog getting diarrhea while riding locked in a carrier atop a station wagon during a 10 hour drive!
Perhaps like people, it would be a dog by dog situation whether they would love it or be so scared that they would mentally shut down.
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Yup. I'm mostly impressed by people's compulsion to second guess one another's decisions where their pets are involved, and how emotional this makes people. We see this all the time, even on this forum. It's what got OP sent to jail.
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Originally Posted by tunaofthedirt View Post
My dog is safe and happy at my moms. She ran harder and longer than I expected her to the first couple days, so the 3rd day she could barely walk because her legs were so sore and wobbly. So she laid in her trailer until her soreness healed. While I was at a gas station, some drunk redneck seen her wobbling out of her trailer to do her business and accused me of abusing my dog. One thing led to another and he taunted me to "come get some". I made a terrible choice by punching him in the face. His girlfriend called the police. Big deal, I thought... misdemeanor simple assault. Not in Florida. I was charged with a first degree felony burglary with assault or battery, punishable by life in prison. He was sitting inside his parked car when I punched him through his open window. It's burglary because I "entered the box he was contained in uninvited". Long story short, I sat in jail fighting the case with a public defender for 7 months before I was able to convince them that I'm an alcoholic and to send me to rehab instead of prison. I'm in the 6 month rehab now. I get out in August. I'm not saying that I was in the right in anyway, it was just a bad choice in a bad situation.
I'm not sure you get it. It was a bad choice to violently attack a fellow citizen period. People like you are the primary reason we need law enforcement - to protect ourselves from your outbursts. Time you spend in jail is time well served.

Too bad you scammed the system to get out of prison time. You'll either clean up your act or more people will be victimized by you before law enforcement gets another chance. Hoping it's the former.
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Wow! Interesting. Best of luck with the rehab.
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Yup. I'm mostly impressed by people's compulsion to second guess one another's decisions where their pets are involved, and how emotional this makes people. We see this all the time, even on this forum. It's what got OP sent to jail.
As I've already said, animals are property. I sort of understand getting emotional about property - I find it upsetting when I have to put a pet down when it becomes apparent it is not going to get well and I wish I could remove some of the emotional attachment I have to some of my bicycles. I'm not one to second guess the decision of a person when it comes to their pets so long as they are treated humanely.
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... I'm not one to second guess the decision of a person when it comes to their pets so long as they are treated humanely.
But who's to decide what's humane? That's like saying, I'm not going to tell people what kind of music to listen to, as long as it's musical.
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Originally Posted by Walter S View Post
I'm not sure you get it. It was a bad choice to violently attack a fellow citizen period. People like you are the primary reason we need law enforcement - to protect ourselves from your outbursts. Time you spend in jail is time well served.

Too bad you scammed the system to get out of prison time. You'll either clean up your act or more people will be victimized by you before law enforcement gets another chance. Hoping it's the former.
I am by no means defending tunaofthedirt, but we all make mistakes and err in judgment from time to time. Personally, I think that the time he's spent in jail is far more than what I believe to be just based on what I've read in the thread. A year for punching someone out and then stretching the law to make the offence "first degree felony burglary with assault or battery"? Should calmer heads have prevailed? Sure. Did they? No. But to throw the book at someone for something like this is just plain wrong looking at what's been posted. Perhaps there some history here I don't know about. I'd rather express my rage for people like Heather Cook, who took the life of a good man. That is something worthy of getting upset about, not someone taking a punch through the open window of a car.
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Originally Posted by rhm View Post
But who's to decide what's humane? That's like saying, I'm not going to tell people what kind of music to listen to, as long as it's musical.
Being a simple man, I like the simple definition found here: kind or gentle to people or animals

Unfortunately, there is more nuance to the word humane than I would like and, though we probably agree 99% on what humane means to us, it likely wouldn't meet the mark for someone whose definition is closely aligned with that of PETA.

Yes: "I'm not going to tell people what kind of music to listen to, as long as it's musical."
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