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Rain & Overcast: Go Ahead, Delay, or Cancel?

Old 04-22-05, 04:15 PM
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Rain & Overcast: Go Ahead, Delay, or Cancel?

I have originally planned to go loop Erie on the 27th, but weather forecasts shows one whole week of rain up to the 29th. Rain doesn't matter to me that much, but temperatures are to dip to 2C (~34F?), making the trip less enjoyable. Plus, this is supposed to be a photo/videographic trip, and the lack of sun will certainly hamper the quality and quantity. I have to be back here by May 16th, and I don't see any other chances to do it this year.

Should I...
  • Go ahead and ride. Risk getting sick, despise the trip all the way, running $$$ on medical costs. But maybe the sun will shine all the way from Niagara Falls to Cleveland again. Touring in rain proves the badassness possessed!
  • Delay a few days, watch and see. 27th to May 16th is 19 days, an awful lot of time to cover about 1,000 km. However, there may not be many chances to stop over a day and just stroll around, it may turn out to be a rush job without much in return.
  • Cancel the trip. It won't turn out good anyway, why risk getting sick? Stay around and do nothing, it's a vacation on itself (devil talking).

Right now I'm leaning towards #1...
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I say go ahead. if you know its gona be cold and wet,pack for it. and just cause its not sunny doesnt mean you cant grab some great photos
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I agree, make the most of it. It'll make the experience that much richer. Your photos can still turn out impressively.
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Originally Posted by way124
Go ahead and ride. Risk getting sick, despise the trip all the way, running $$$ on medical costs. But maybe the sun will shine all the way from Niagara Falls to Cleveland again. Touring in rain proves the badassness possessed!
Get sick from riding in a bit of rain and cold********** Hahahahaha!!

I'm sorry, that's got to be the funniest things I've heard today. Now there's an old wives tale!!

You won't get sick from riding in the rain and cold. If that were even remotely true, I'd be hospitalized and on death's door by now!!!

Just dress for it. It's that simple. And keep in mind that weather forcasters don't know what they are talking about. You've got as much chance of it being sunny and warm as rainy and cold.
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I understand you have done centuries in -20C etc. I did several 80km trips in -12C too, and cycled at 2C with rain, with a rain jacket, insulation layer, shorts and sandals. One day is fine, but my body has limits. Today, for example, it was windy and cloudy throughout the morning, and rained throughout the afternoon. No doubt I will be wet. Problem is when I pitch a tent, moisture will inevitably seep in. I cannot dry myself when it's pouring outside, so I bring in lots of moisture. I can wipe myself dry, but the moisture still has to go somewhere. The tent floor may become wet. Then I lay down my sleeping bag, which will also get wet. Which is fine if it's just a little. But doing this over 10 days and if the rain doesn't let up, it will not have a chance to dry and every chance to get wetter. And sleeping when wet is bad bad bad.

Even so, I'll try my luck. It couldn't rain 10 days straight, can it?
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Originally Posted by way124
I understand you have done centuries in -20C etc. I did several 80km trips in -12C too, and cycled at 2C with rain, with a rain jacket, insulation layer, shorts and sandals. One day is fine, but my body has limits. Today, for example, it was windy and cloudy throughout the morning, and rained throughout the afternoon. No doubt I will be wet. Problem is when I pitch a tent, moisture will inevitably seep in. I cannot dry myself when it's pouring outside, so I bring in lots of moisture. I can wipe myself dry, but the moisture still has to go somewhere. The tent floor may become wet. Then I lay down my sleeping bag, which will also get wet. Which is fine if it's just a little. But doing this over 10 days and if the rain doesn't let up, it will not have a chance to dry and every chance to get wetter. And sleeping when wet is bad bad bad.

Even so, I'll try my luck. It couldn't rain 10 days straight, can it?
I've ridden in cold, wet, miserable conditions several days in a row ... not just for one day.

A few tips:
- use a mattress, not just your sleeping bag. That way when the tent floor gets a bit wet, your sleeping bag won't get wet.
- pitch your tent close to the toilet block so you can change and dry off in there. If you're really lucky, the toilet block might even have hand driers.
- take advantage of hostels once in a while if the rain is really coming down and you feel you'd like a dry night.
- use the campground laundry, or a laundromat you find along the way, to dry your sleeping bag, clothes, etc.
- line your panniers with several garbage bags, and always keep one set of clothing dry. Protect that set of clothing in grocery bags or whatever it takes - those are your sleeping clothes.
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Sincerely... we're the 22nd and you plan on leaving the 27th?

Don't worry the weather is never acccurate on the long term ;-)

And if it is cold and rainy, just start with shorter days and stay longer in cafes.. just make sure to bring a good book!
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I agree with most of the other posts but would like to add my 2 cents:

As stated most long range forcasts are inaccuarate anyway. I think the 5 day in Canada is about 60%.

As someone who does ride in the rain, I know you don't get sick but you probably don't put on the same distance each day. If I start out in the rain, I evaluate at lunch how much longer I want to go on, whether it might let up and if I want to camp or not. Some of my nicest campsites have been in the rain under the trees (I use a Hennessy hammock;I'm not on the ground).

If it is really nasty or I've got wet I'll hit a B&B and just enjoy the comfort and the drying time. Touring is fun, not a competition. Read a book, write your blog.
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You can't depend on forecasts. Bring yo woolies and rain gear!
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C'mon... when has a weather forecast ever been that accurate that far in advance? Sometimes, they're not even accurate from the night before. I only deal with forecasts the day of. I've been burned way too many times.

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Well I went around Lake Erie in August a few years ago and I did indeed get rain almost every day. Of course the rain lasted only a short period of time as I worked my way through the storm front but it didn't end my tour. In fact it gave me some very interesting stories afterwards!

If you are worried about your sleeping bag perhaps consider carrying a drybag or something similar for those days when it will be wet. I like letting my sleeping bag breath but I would rather have it smelly or moist rather then soaking wet.

Going around Erie is a fun ride. Please let us know how the trip went when you return. I would love to read about your adventure including both the good and bad times.

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I'm on Lake Erie, in Toledo. Maybe we'll bump into each other!
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Originally Posted by schwinnbikelove
I'm on Lake Erie, in Toledo. Maybe we'll bump into each other!
Whoops, I'm skipping Toledo. Going through the Sandusky-Pelee-Leamington ferry express instead

I think you guys made up my mind... I'm definitely going. It worried me a whole lot when I posted the thread because it wasn't just rain... it was almost snowing. And it did snow the next day. But then the next, it was bright. Today, it's raining again - but not as cold anymore. I can handle this not-so-cold rain.

This will be my 'blog': https://irqnine.com/forums/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=412. It will probaly be updated once every 3 days or so...

Well, I'm departing tomorrow, if all goes well. See ya!
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Yeah, I'd skip Toledo too!

I know we don't really know each other, but good luck anyway! This weather has been nuts lately-Toledo got about 6 inches of snow the day before yesterday!

Cycling and photography, can't get any better, huh?
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Way to go way124. I have set off on cycling trips when the weather forecasts have not been the best. A friend who had been going on two of them, tends to be a fair-weather cyclist. He dipped out when he looked at the forecasts. Unfortunately, the one forecast for each trip that the weather bureau selected from the four models it uses was the wrong one! I had a ball in fine, sunny and calm conditions. My friend moped at home.

One further suggestion on keeping stuff dry. Along with your sleeping bag, make every effort to keep one set of clothing dry each day, too. People get cold after they stop riding because the layer of moisture against their skin evaporates. If you have dry clothes to change into *immediately* you stop riding (even before setting up camp), you will avoid those chill problems.

Good luck. And take plenty of pictures -- we would like to see the best posted here sometime.

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Well your question gave me some inspiration today. I thought about it some more while riding home in the rain (by the long road route home) and here's what I came up with:

https://www.bicycletouring101.com/RidingInTheRain.htm

Have fun on your tour. I will be reading your blog! I haven't been to Pelee yet myself so I am really looking forward to seeing what you have to say about it.

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Well, the weather forecast has been right. It's been nothing but rain, overcast, windblowing or the for the most part. Today, for example, it's been raining all day. It didn't stop a bit. I had to battle 30-50Kph headwinds at 9C, on a highway without shoulders and fast traffic. It was very, very, very challenging. My hands and feet were numb, but my upper body remained dry, thanks to my reliable rain jacket. I guess you can say I should've stayed until the weather gets better, but I can't afford that.

I'm in a motel now, after 3 nights of 'camping' and 4 days of cycling. Oh yes, I'm Niagara Falls. Rooms are $45/night. A hot shower, a warm bed, some proper chairs and tables to sit on and eat stuff really reminds me how comfortable and pampered our civilization has become. Now I can't wait to get back home because of this. Of course, much of this is due to the weather. I only hope things gets better from here.

I'm definitely staying here for another day to take pictures and videos, but where to stay for the night remains a question. Should I stay in the motel for another night, at the cost of 4 dinners, or camp out, and get back to the nomadic lifestyle as soon as possible?

Come on El Nino, gimme some heat wave! All though to Mother's Day!
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My hands and feet were numb,

Pick up some proper booties and gloves. Neoprene would work the best, but it is a little bulky. Nylon will let the water in but will block the wind and keep you fairly warm.


And remember, you aren't necessarily limited to two options (camping vs. motel) for accommodations.

Check to see if there are any hostels in your area. They will probably be at least half the price of a motel.
https://www.hihostels.ca/English/home.html
Well, look at that ... a couple clicks of a button, and I see that there IS an HI hostel in Niagara Falls:
https://www.hihostels.ca/hostels/Onta...els/index.html
And I see that non-member rates are $23.18 per night. But you will need to call them ASAP to see if they've got space.

You might browse around this site too: https://www.backpackers.ca/
There are actually two hostels in the Niagara Falls area: the one I mentioned above which is a HI hostel, and this one: https://www.backpackers.ca/mod.php?mo...&companyid=582



If that doesn't work, call up the local campgrounds and see if any rent out caravans by the night.
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Originally Posted by way124
I have originally planned to go loop Erie on the 27th, but weather forecasts shows one whole week of rain up to the 29th. Rain doesn't matter to me that much, but temperatures are to dip to 2C (~34F?), making the trip less enjoyable. Plus, this is supposed to be a photo/videographic trip, and the lack of sun will certainly hamper the quality and quantity.
I disagree with that. Go and have a look at my pictures from Tasmania for yourself. As far as I'm concerned, the best ones were taken on overcast days (and there were plenty of those!). I think on sunny days the shadows can ruin the quality of a picture, and make things hard to see. It might be useful for certain shots, but overall I prefer overcast days for photography. In anycase, it's largely academic. My experience of weather forecasts is that they are rarely indicative of what's going to happen in two days time, never mind an entire week! Consequently, my vote is to simply go and enjoy whatever it throws at you, you might be surprised.

Well, that's my vote by default. Unfortunately, you didn't provide an option for "try to time my departure to coincide with the heaviest of the rain".
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You should definatel go ahead and do it, the tour. It will build chaaracter.

I myself have had enough character building experiences, in fact have an overabundance of character. I could email some if you send your email address, then you could postpone until conditions improve. 'Cuz otherwise what's the point?
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The toughest days are the ones that live on in our memories. They are the ones we will dine over for ages... impressing all around with our durability (or some would say stupidity).

Nevertheless, you are becoming a legend!!! Stick with it. You will learn much more that way, instead of running for home. You will find how resilient you really are, how creative you really are in your problem-solving, and... well, you've already pointed it out... how really pampered our "civilisation" has become.

And I can almost guarantee there will be a picture come out of this that will be brilliant.
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I'm in Kenmoore, outside Buffalo now, staying inside nice and warm in a public library The weather remained the same. What I don't understand is how I can get 3 days of headwinds? I'm still battling cold temperatures and not so cheery skies. It's almost raining every minute that passes. At night, it simply dips to just above freezing. I find myself waking up at 4am all the time.

I would like to spend some money on all the equipment that makes things easier and more comfortable, but I have a limited budget. Hell, I'm actually cycling on normal sandals without toe clips! In a tarp tent! On a CAD 150 MTB! The single most expensive component on my bike is the aerobar at CAD 50.

Some pictures are nice, like overcast. Still, I prefer lots of sun. At these temperatures, I hardly want to stop because once I do I'll get cold again. And with rain, only photography is possible (thanks to the water resistant camera). Video - nope.

I don't think I will really find out if I enjoy the trip until I process the pictures and video clips. In the meantime, thanks for the encouragement.
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The retrospective satisfaction will be worth the struggle.......guaranteed!
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Great pictures on your blog! Continue to keep us posted!

BTW you don't sound like a "jerk" to me!
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