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Originally Posted by Leebo
(Post 17959022)
^^^ Rude? No. Motivation comes from within. Either it's there or not. Same as any outdoor adventure. Hiking, biking, paddling etc.
I find a zen in cycling onwards over bleak landscapes. In the deserts of Eastern Colorado in late fall, I found peace and tranquility. There's a surprising amount to see in nothingness, from small interruptions from passing cars and roadside properties to the sudden presence of a new feature like a far-off peak, a river, or a new cloud. It changes from instant to instant like the densest city would. If you told me five years ago that I'd be biking across a desert for two days, I'd say "Sounds boring." Luckily, I got to experience it. If sharing that experience encourages someone else, like the OP, to quit worrying about boredom and broaden their outlook on cycle-touring, this forum is doing it's job. If you just want to sit around with the seasoned veterans and tell the young whippersnappers "Get lost kid, you ain't got what it takes for this racket," then I pity your outlook. |
MD, thanks. I already love hiking because the duration of hiking is well worth the hard work when you reach the end, for example the summit or the pass, and you view the breath taking scenery. I was curious about different people's opinion and from what I've read, I think it is worth the time and effort to actually get out and ride the bicycle. Bicycling is part of my life since I was a young 'un. and I do not intend to stop riding my bicycle. Like I mentioned before, the wandering bug have bitten me so I am glad I found this forum with like minded people. Now I can learn more about preparation, what to buy, how to get ready, and other stuff. I still have one fond memory of that time when I was leading a group of young whippersnapper, and in reality, I did not want to lead, but they all forced me to get in the front. Some how I got into the groove of pedaling and just enjoying the scenery I actually got so far ahead that they couldn't keep up. So from that point on, they refused to allow me to get in front. :)
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Originally Posted by wrldtraveller
(Post 17959467)
MD, thanks. I already love hiking because the duration of hiking is well worth the hard work when you reach the end, for example the summit or the pass, and you view the breath taking scenery. I was curious about different people's opinion and from what I've read, I think it is worth the time and effort to actually get out and ride the bicycle. Bicycling is part of my life since I was a young 'un. and I do not intend to stop riding my bicycle. Like I mentioned before, the wandering bug have bitten me so I am glad I found this forum with like minded people. Now I can learn more about preparation, what to buy, how to get ready, and other stuff. I still have one fond memory of that time when I was leading a group of young whippersnapper, and in reality, I did not want to lead, but they all forced me to get in the front. Some how I got into the groove of pedaling and just enjoying the scenery I actually got so far ahead that they couldn't keep up. So from that point on, they refused to allow me to get in front. :)
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Originally Posted by mdilthey
(Post 17959421)
I find a zen in cycling onwards over bleak landscapes. In the deserts of Eastern Colorado in late fall, I found peace and tranquility. There's a surprising amount to see in nothingness, from small interruptions from passing cars and roadside properties to the sudden presence of a new feature like a far-off peak, a river, or a new cloud. It changes from instant to instant like the densest city would.
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Originally Posted by Leebo
(Post 17959022)
Motivation comes from within. Either it's there or not.
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As a European who has toured extensively in Canada, maybe I have some perspective on this.
my biggest Canada/US tour was a two-month loop from Toronto through Ontario and Quebec to the Atlantic (Gaspe) and back via New England and upstate New York. At no point was I bored. I do have some sympathy for your attitude to the prairies, though; my original plan had been a coast-to-coast ride, but I ditched that because day after flat day struck me as less interesting. I find that motivation is never a problem for me on tour. Solo touring is meditative, it's like an exercise in mindfulness. One becomes attuned to the rhythms of the ride, aware of one's surroundings, often not thinking, just being: it's a very zen-like state and the opposite of boring. And I tend not to plan routes in too much detail. I have an idea where I might end up that evening, but am content to explore byways along the way and change my plans altogether if somewhere or something looks worth investigating. On longer tours I am living very much in the moment - riding the bike doesn't feel like a holiday activity, being a cyclist just becomes my primary raison d'etre. Try it. |
So, OP when is the first trip? You have a bike and waderlust, start there. Sometimes it is helpful to get out of your comfort zone. Start with a small trip, 3-5 days, even an overnight trip to sort out bike/gear/packing issues. Post back and report.
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To those who fear to have a go at touring I say forget the doubts and do it.
The sense of adventure at the start of a tour when you have a thousand or so miles to travel and are totally dependent upon your own resources is something that I miss so much it hurts. I'm too old and decrepit now but with the advent of each summer I feel that old itch to set off and tour. There is no better way to engage with people and get to know the country and I came back from each tour with a renewed faith in the goodness of my fellow-man. So many small acts of kindness from strangers in a foreign land and so many bright mornings when all is right with the world. Cycling alone for so many miles does engender a certain state of mind and creates this routine of cycling and camping which requires little thought. When the body has ceased to protest and is accustomed to the constant pedalling, and the bike has become as familiar as any of your body parts, then it is your thoughts which are prominent.....Zen-like it may be. I loved it and it became an essential part of my life and a prerequisite to my well-being. |
Originally Posted by onbike 1939
(Post 17964702)
I'm too old and decrepit now ..?
Cycling alone for so many miles does engender a certain state of mind and creates this routine of cycling and camping which requires little thought. When the body has ceased to protest and is accustomed to the constant pedalling, and the bike has become as familiar as any of your body parts, then it is your thoughts which are prominent.....Zen-like it may be. I loved it and it became an essential part of my life and a prerequisite to my well-being. |
Originally Posted by onbike 1939
(Post 17964702)
To those who fear to have a go at touring I say forget the doubts and do it.
The sense of adventure at the start of a tour when you have a thousand or so miles to travel and are totally dependent upon your own resources is something that I miss so much it hurts. I'm too old and decrepit now but with the advent of each summer I feel that old itch to set off and tour. |
Originally Posted by wrldtraveller
(Post 17956792)
I'm too old and decrepit now but with the advent of each summer I feel that old itch to set off and tour.
I have found that these types of comments can come from some fairly young folks, but mostly it isn't from folks who have toured. On the Trans America, I often heard "I'm too old" from folks who I met on tour who said "I wish I could do that but, I'm too old". They usually were 10-20 years younger than I was and I figured that at 55 I still had at least 20 years of touring left in me if not a bit more. It would seem like one ought to be able to tour well into their 70s if they stay healthy and maybe longer if they are lucky in the genetic lottery. Of course health issues can get in the way, but that isn't strictly just age and could happen at any age. |
Originally Posted by staehpj1
(Post 17967131)
If you are willing to say, I'd be curious how old you are.
I have found that these types of comments can come from some fairly young folks, but mostly it isn't from folks who have toured. On the Trans America, I often heard "I'm too old" from folks who I met on tour who said "I wish I could do that but, I'm too old". They usually were 10-20 years younger than I was and I figured that at 55 I still had at least 20 years of touring left in me if not a bit more. It would seem like one ought to be able to tour well into their 70s if they stay healthy and maybe longer if they are lucky in the genetic lottery. Of course health issues can get in the way, but that isn't strictly just age and could happen at any age. |
thanks you all for the responses. I have been viewing a lot of you tube videos about people's experience touring either north america, or in europe. I find it truly amazing and can't wait to start doing that for myself. like one the post suggested, I am thinking about starting small, like a 2 or 3 day trip, then work my way up. touring by bike has been in my mind for a long time, I just did not put it into action until I started to read some books about people travelling by bike. The books triggered my interest in touring and made me want to learn more about preperation. I went to a bike shop to find out how much would a bike cost, and to my surprise, the owner already did two tours across canada by bike, so he gave me some excellent answers and pointers. He said what most of you said, Its an rich experience, and I should go do it.
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For me, motivation isn't the issue. It's time and money. I only have about 4 weeks vacation a year, some of which must be spent on family trips. And, as others mentioned, bike touring can be very expensive even if camping out.
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Expensive? Just sleep in the woods. In MA, plenty of options available.
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Originally Posted by tarwheel
(Post 17967541)
as others mentioned, bike touring can be very expensive even if camping out.
Now if you're talking about commercial organized tours where people carry your gear and powder puff your____, well then yea, I agree with you. |
Originally Posted by wrldtraveller
(Post 17954237)
When you are cycling on a highway going to God knows where, it can become monotonous especially if you ride across the prairies. How do you keep going and keep sane?
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Originally Posted by robow
(Post 17968103)
Actually, I've always felt the opposite, that my bike touring vacations have been rather cheap compared to say "Disneyland with the kids"
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cool. I just found out that my bicycle needs a overhaul, both cranksets, and rear axle bearings. I was riding my bike a couple days ago when my rear tires started to be wobbly which never happened before. So I checked it today. I am curious, Have it ever happened to you while you are on long distance tour? Do you carry spare parts with you, or you just keep riding hoping that the bike will hold together to the nearest town and hope that the town actually have a bike shop?
So for the next few days or weeks, I will have to repair my bicycle. C'est la vie... Wrldtraveller.:bike2: |
Originally Posted by wrldtraveller
(Post 17969836)
cool. I just found out that my bicycle needs a overhaul, both cranksets, and rear axle bearings. I was riding my bike a couple days ago when my rear tires started to be wobbly which never happened before. So I checked it today. I am curious, Have it ever happened to you while you are on long distance tour? Do you carry spare parts with you, or you just keep riding hoping that the bike will hold together to the nearest town and hope that the town actually have a bike shop?
So for the next few days or weeks, I will have to repair my bicycle. C'est la vie... Wrldtraveller.:bike2: |
Originally Posted by wrldtraveller
(Post 17969836)
I am curious, Have it ever happened to you while you are on long distance tour? Do you carry spare parts with you, or you just keep riding hoping that the bike will hold together to the nearest town and hope that the town actually have a bike shop?
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When I biked across country last summer every day was a visual literacy. I was excited to go somewhere that was unknown to me, or figuring out where i'd end up camped for the night. I had a goal in mind for the day and strategies that I'd plan out the night before, kinda like the "Art of War" if you will.
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Originally Posted by staehpj1
(Post 17955901)
I find that once the motivation to get started is there and I go, the routine of riding day after day kicks in.
Here's something I put in one of my trip reports. I think it sums up my motivation for long tours: "I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately, to front only the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived." (H.D. Thoreau) substitute "road" for "woods" and you have it. |
Its been a while since I last posted. My bike is all repaired and good to go. I've noticed in most youtube posts, that cyclists who do cross country trip, usually do it one way and fly home?
and what is most bikepacking average speed while cycling? Why I ask those questions is because I typically do a round trip so I would be expecting to do a cross country round trip and it would be impractical to do a 7 thousand km one way and turn it into a 14 thousand km trip. Also, speed...when I cycle, i tend to cycle pretty fast and it tend to cause issues with my knee and legs as I grow weary at about 50 or 60 miles. Just wondering. Thanks guys. P |
Start with a short tour, even 1 overnight first to get feel of bike and gear. Do some loops from your house, that's what I do. Speed ? It's up to you. Hills and headwinds? Weight of bike and rider conditioning? For me, mostly New England hills and such, I figure 50- 70 miles a day. Some days are 5 hours some are 8+ of pedaling.
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