35 Pounds.

Mostly stock 2015 54CM LHT with Tubus Duo, Tubus Cargo, front and rear lighting, mirror, bell, computer, 2 bottle cage without bottles, Brooks Cambium, repair kit in 48 Oz. Nalgene carried on rear rack (pump, tube, full set allen wrenches, screwdriver, tire tools, tire patch kit) Schwalbe Marathon Plus (4 pounds of tire soon to be replaced).

I am replacing the Marathon Plus with Supremes which will bring it to 33 Pounds. I could probably lose another pound by replacing the seat.

I've also lost 30 pounds myself in the last year so the bike weighs about 3 pounds.

Jon

I was joking of course as I was one of the wankers but yeah you'd think there would be people bragging about how they handle their heavy loads. Occasionally, I think I've seen this, people going out of their way to show how heavy their bikes are.

If it's about the journey to me the journey is better with 50 lbs of bike and gear than 100 but really who cares. Whatever works, works.

I think a skosh under 30 pounds when it's naked, as in a Salsa Vaya Travel with Tubus fork racks.

Any part I've swapped out for something lighter (Thomson stuff) has been more than compensated for by something heavier (Schwalbe tires).

I'm a clyde, so being a weight weenie is stupid, so I tend to spec things tougher than most.

I thought it was funny as well. I'm not into ultra lightweight, minimalist gear but I've been lightening my load. I don't have a lightweight bike though.

Wanker here. 25lbs.

The real question should be "How much do your wheels and tires weigh?" because that's what has the biggest impact on how a bike feels. I just lightened my wheelset (I built up XT hubs, 32, H+Son Archetype rims, as did four other people at my shop) and it made a HUGE difference in bike feel.

There's the rub. It's easy to lighten the wheels with skinny rims, low spoke counts and no puncture protective tires... which will undoubtedly enhance the riding experience... until it doesn't

I weigh the bike with any racks that would be on when touring and also any tools and spares. My rationale is that they are always on the bike so I consider them part of it. So my weights include a little seat wedge of tools, tubes, and what not. It usually weighs about a pound.

Feel free to be rude and call me names for caring about going light on tour, but my last long paved road tour (ST) was on a 24 pound bike. That included 32 spoke wheels, a pound or so of tools, a mini pump, some spare small parts (small nuts, bolts, and a couple chain links), and a rear rack. It would have been lighter except that I am a cheapskate and consider good enough to be good enough. I watch every ounce, but choose cut the weight more by what I leave home than by spending copious amounts of money on higher end gear.

Back when I carried more stuff and used 4 panniers I rode a bike that was 30 pounds including some tools and spares.

True, but the wheels Max listed sound very well up to the task of lightly loaded touring. It makes sense to pick wheels that suit the load and surfaces that you will be riding. For some what is suitable will be heavy duty and for others it will be pretty lightweight.

Besides even if you go too light and have a failure it isn't the end of the world where most of us tour. You can always buy more flat resistant tires or even put on heavier duty wheels mid tour if necessary.

Lots, LOTS of people using the Archetypes. They're extremely strong. My friend Noah just completed a cross-country tour with a pair, they were true when he got back.

32 isn't a low spoke count for a 160lb rider with 20lbs of gear. Maybe it's low if you carry 50lbs of equipment...

Didn't even mention my tires. Your clairvoyance is off, because I'm using Marathons.

This was all said in good humor; see posts no. 2 and 28.

I think the interesting part of this thread is how the lightweight revolution that has hit backpacking for example has made less of an impact in bike touring. I suspect the reason is that backpacking you pay for the weight every day whether going up or down or on flat ground. On a bike, weight doesn't matter as much. It's not on your back and you really don't notice it much until going uphill.

Plus if you are not going fast (and I suspect most tourists aren't), there is something to be said for a fatter tire run at lower pressure.

I really didn't take offence at any of your comments and what I said was in good humor as well. OTOH, I have have a hard time seeing how post number two can be taken as anything but insulting toward those who make an effort to go very light.

Bike bob can speak for himself but I saw it as humorous and I think everyone has had fun with it since then. It's a good thread. I'm planning out some trips to the PNW next summer and I'm definitely interested in lightening my load before tackling those mountains.

Hm, my old 520 weighs less than I thought. Including lights and the rear rack, it's a little under 28lbs before bags or bottles go on the bike.

Having some new wheels built soon and think my 200+lb cargo-hauling self will still go the safe 36 spoke route. 32 hole bontrager fairlanes aren't happy with me...

Funny thing about all this... In both backpacking and bike touring I see a lot of folks posting about going ultralight. Then when I am out on the road or trail I see very few who are actually carrying less than 30 pounds, but I do see quite a few carrying a lot more. I have actually grown to doubt that a really significant portion or folks in either discipline really go to any extreme in gear weight reduction. The disconnect between what I read and what I see out in the world kind of baffles me. I am not sure if that is because of where I choose to hike and tour or if it is representative of backpackers and bike tourists in general.

This is an eye-opener. I'd have expected light-weight touring bikes to go along with ultra-light camping equipment.

They do, but there is a difference, the bike does carry the load, and if by any chance one can handle the hills, or there really aren't any, the bike can easily handle a load that one would soon regret in backpacking. Another major factor is that a can of tuna, or a six of beer is not conveniently showing up at 5 PM when hiking a wilderness trail, but that or better is common place in touring as one drives through towns periodically.

I went ultralite just to make up for deficiencies of age. I think a lot more people could comfortably backpack or tour if they were willing to cut the pounds. 30 is a pretty light weight load on a bike because 1) one needs a lot of water if it is hot; 2) there are provisions for the bike itself, tools and spares, though I have them pared back to next to nothing it still ads up; 3) The rack and pannier system can easily weigh 10-20 pounds and I have a compact set of panniers.

Having once been in the back packing business:

1) I could count on the fingers of one hand the people who actually did anything. Ultralight is just another product line for people to buy and obsess over. At least it has some validity as far as being something the average person could use. Back when I was in the biz what mattered what who used what crap on Everest, so maybe there is a little more realism.

I used to follow this guy on Youtube who was chattering away about hammocks and did all these reviews, and often shop his vids with him in the hammock. Then he got this new hammock and forthrightly stated, maybe this would be the one were he could actually sleep through the night... He was Mr Hammock, yet he had never been able to sleep through the night.

2) It is all fashion, back in the later 70s early 80s cycle touring was the ultralight backpacking of the range of camping sports. We always carried a cycling tent, and it was the one with only one pole that would fall down in a 10mph wind. Then they developed 4 pannier front and back sets, while backpacking came somewhat under the sway of people like Messner who climbed new routes on Everest using a day pack for his stores. And the rest is history.

34lbs. Stainless steel frame, Rohloff, Hylex disc brakes, SON28, Brooks, Mavic XM419, Schwalbe Extreme, Tubus rear rack

Edit: I'm currently at 180lbs. So total system weight unloaded is 214lbs. Bike was spec'd for a 330lbs total system weight.

I don't think the premise of this thread is all that interesting. Bikes are pretty similar in materials and fittings, the variance of a few pounds is mostly irrelevant. What I would like to know is what percentage of your body weight is your bike, or you bike and load. I don't have a current bike, I am building one out right now, but based on other bikes I would say 13%. I would guess the intended baseline is probably around 20% 32 pounds over 160 pounds rider weight.

On the other hand while I am a big guy, a corrected weight if I put excess weight and bike weight together might be 34 percent. Bike over ideal weight would be around 16%.

The bike itself without touring gear on it is a 85 Schwinn Le Tour Luxe and weighs 25.8 pounds but the catalog says 25 pounds, but I think my weight difference is that for some reason Schwinn put 42 spoke wheels all around on mine and the catalog said it had 42 on the rear and 36 on the front, the other difference in the weight could be that it's a 25" frame instead of a 21 or 23 that the weights were taken from.

i wouldn't mind getting lighter than what i got - but when i look at getting new, it's about the same as the old stuff i got. if it ain't broke, keep riding it.

bike: Specialized Rock Hopper - 'bout 35 lbs with front/rear racks and fenders

5 days worth of gear: 38 lbs (obviously not a weight wanker...)

ps: me, at 195 ish lbs....

for @MassiveD: total 268lb, bike = 13%; gear = 14%

Old people want to sleep on more than a 3/8" thick foam camping pad.

That's hilarious, and probably jumped out at many of his viewers. :D I sleep most comfortably in my hammock though, beats any bed hands down. Hammocks aren't for everyone but I think a lot of people don't get a proper introduction to hammocks / how to hang.

As for the more interesting percentage of bodyweight comparison- bike is 28 unloaded, one pannier is generally 12ish lbs, the other is ~8. Add a few pounds of water and let's say ~50lbs total bike and gear. I fluctuate between 200 and 210 lbs these days, so for the sake of easy math, 50/200 has my bike & gear weight at:

25% of my bodyweight.