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Old 05-01-05, 09:34 PM
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Whats the deal with amsterdam?

It looks like I am going to be heading to amsterdam over the summer. What is the deal with bring my bike over there is it worth it? I mean, it is the bike capital of the world and all.
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Its simple enough to rent one there, if you prefer. It is very flat so you don't need gears.
The Netherlands has a vibrant bike culture, very different from North America but well worth observing and participating.
If you do choose to take your own bike it is dead easy to cycle from Schiphol airport into the city- or anywhere else for that matter.
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Originally Posted by Lividkoi
It looks like I am going to be heading to amsterdam over the summer. What is the deal with bring my bike over there is it worth it? I mean, it is the bike capital of the world and all.
Be very wary of thieves. If you have anything nicer than a crap chinese bike, I suggest you don't leave it on the street for long, it'll be stolen and resold within hours for heroin. No, I am not making this up. Amsterdam junkies are probably the best bike thieves in the world...
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Just going to A'Dam??
Don't take your bike
Rent it instead, as noted the thieves are innovative there, not worth the worry bout shipping on a plane or constantly worrying about its safety

For a 4 hour bike tour try Fat Tire Bike Tours meets front of the Big Museum
It make be called the bike capital of the world but you will RARELY see a great bike, just junkers
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yes, you can easily rent although most of the rentals are heavy "cruiser/commuter" bikes...

Originally Posted by Travelinguyrt
It make be called the bike capital of the world but you will RARELY see a great bike, just junkers
yep. i was surprized by that too!! at first i thought they were all _really_ old bikes, but no, they make/sell/buy NEW bikes that are heavy and look like they're old... in Germany this style of bike is called a "Holland bike" (heavy usually black frame, balloon tires, rack, lights and basic 50s or so frame design --- as opposed to a trekking bike, touring bike or commuter which all serve the same general "purpose" bike are a LOT lighter and pedal easier.

the rental of these city "Holland bikes" is cheap - we rented a tandem for pretty cheap and the bikes are fine for commuting in the city, but they are HEAVY... and slow.

although i was amazed - some local friends i visited do like 100 mile tours on these heavy bikes -- i am used to commuting and touring on a MTB with slicks and clipless pedals and found the Holland bike to be iritating after the novelty wore off in about 20 minutes... but man, this friend of mine could ride his heavy junker FAST! (no hills of course)

It looks like I am going to be heading to amsterdam over the summer.
you say "for the summer" - if you are going to be there a while, i would consider bringing a bike - although bike theft IS a major problem. or you could buy a city bike for cheap as renting for more than a few weeks would be $$$.
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You have to remember that Nederlanders are riding bikes as soon as they can walk and cycling is accepted as a normal part of life there. Result--they are STRONG cyclists and can easily handle the heavy bikes they usually own. That said there are many long-distance cyclists and they use conventional touring bikes to rack up the miles. All of them seem to be giants--and that includes the women and kids.
Do remember if you are toring there that there is a constant wind which always blows in the same direction so it is really important that youcycle the right way round.
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Dont bring your own. Ive been there and the theivery is alive and well. Like said before, your bike will be ripped off for drugs or chucked into the canal. But come drainage time, you might be able to get it back....might be a bit mucky though. Rent rent rent.
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I couldn't imagine going without my own bike for a summer in Europe. I spent a summer in Germany in '87 and had my Cannondale Mt. bike with me. No one had even seen a mt. bike at that time. I rode to work and everywhere. It was great.
But I wasn't in Amsterdam, so I'd heed the advice (even though I'd say screw it and bring a New York lock!). Buy a bike used when you get there, get it to fit you and enjoy it the whole summer, then sell at the end to recoup the cost. Should be cheaper than finding a rental every time you want to ride (which might be every day!) That way you can really get around and SEE everything. Bikes in Europe are the best way to get around. And where you'll be you can't go wrong.
Enjoy!
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Originally Posted by LV2TNDM
(even though I'd say screw it and bring a New York lock!).
I am an avid fan of the NY 3000, but I wouldn't test it in A'Dam. Seriously. Actually, I would test it... with someone else's bike.
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Thanks for all the insight.

During my stay I am not actually staying in Amsterdam, I am actually staying in a small town about 30 mins outside amsterdam. Therfore, my bike will only be lock outside in amsterdam for short amount of time while I am in bars or whatever. At night fall the bike will be stored inside.

Is it really that ****ing bad over that I cant leave it out side for an hour or so?

if so, no wonder why they all have POS bikes. They dont want to have to worry about someone taken it.



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If you do ride around Amsterdam, remember where you park your bike.
 
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Just be very careful with it. Bring a good lock, don't let it out of your sight, don't leave it overnight.
Netherlands bike culture isn't about the bikes they ride, its about what they do on the bikes.
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I have always rented bikes in Holland, and would NOT do it again if I had the chance to bring my own. Yes the roads are flat, but the wind off the ocean can be fierce! I remember huffing and puffing while going 2 miles per hour on a perfectly flat road, wishing I was crouched in a streamlined position on my own bike while spinning in a granny gear!

Amsterdam is the most crime-ridden place I have ever visited. I was once mugged by three knife-wielding junkies. It happened so quickly. One grabbed me from behind and punched me in the head while another guy groped in my pocket for my wallet. I twisted my body and somehow slipped free, unhurt with my wallet intact. They tried to chase me, but I ran faster scared than they ran mad!

I would heed the warnings that others have posted about leaving a nice bike in Amsterdam. But Amsterdam is not Holland. I would not hesitiate to bring my bicycle to other parts of the country.

I hope you get a chance to visit Texel Island!
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texel island?
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Originally Posted by Lividkoi
texel island?
Texel Island is one of the nicest places in Holland. Perfect for cycling, beach wandering, nature watching...

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I was not at all a bicyclist when I visited there, but was amazed at just how many bicycles were around. Gordon P's photo is just one of many places where bicycles are on top of bicycles. They are along the canals, everywhere.

I hear there's a museum you can ride your bike through. Though I don't know the name. It might be in a different city.
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Originally Posted by gravel
They are along the canals, everywhere.
And in them. I had a total blast in Am'dam. Its a very cool city. If I were going back, I would take the money I would have to spend on either shipping a bike over there, or the bike case you would need on the airline, plus what was said before....the price of renting, and purchase a so-so bike over there, just in case.....and sell it before you come back. I dont think you would be out that much money. Either way, I wish I was going....damn it! I think this thing called a job is over rated.
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If you are only going to A'dam then rent (or buy) a bike.
If you plan to visit other parts of the country bring your own.
Didn't cost anything to ship or pack my bike.

Bikes are a part of daily life over there, not something anomalous as in North America.
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Originally Posted by skookum
Didn't cost anything to ship or pack my bike.
Well here in the states, and in most part of the world you have to pay for shipping.
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Well here in the states, and in most part of the world you have to pay for shipping.
Depends on who you fly with. Most international flights are free.

https://www.bikeaccess.net/BikeAccess/Airlines.cfm
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Originally Posted by skookum
Depends on who you fly with. Most international flights are free.

https://www.bikeaccess.net/BikeAccess/Airlines.cfm

Ahhh.....thats called luggage my friend....not shipping.
I was talking about actually shipping ahead of time to a specific address.
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The Dutch are the tallest people in the world

https://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives..._worldas_t.php
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Nearly half the population is overweight??
I dont believe that. They (the medical profession) still uses height/weight charts since the dawn of time. They also do not take into account that there are more people with more muscle mass today.
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Originally Posted by ScandiHo
The Dutch are the tallest people in the world

https://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives..._worldas_t.php
Hey ScandiHo: this website is full of extreme right racist propaganda!!! Watch your sources... this site is trully frightening!
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Originally Posted by Magictofu
Hey ScandiHo: this website is full of extreme right racist propaganda!!! Watch your sources... this site is trully frightening!
Right racist propaganda? What would be the difference between "Right Racist" vs "Left Racist"?
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