Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Touring
Reload this Page >

dealing with dogs

Notices
Touring Have a dream to ride a bike across your state, across the country, or around the world? Self-contained or fully supported? Trade ideas, adventures, and more in our bicycle touring forum.

dealing with dogs

Old 11-16-15, 09:28 AM
  #1  
gauvins
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: QC Canada
Posts: 1,618

Bikes: Custom built LHT & Troll

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 655 Post(s)
Liked 69 Times in 56 Posts
dealing with dogs

On a road bike, fair game; on a loaded touring bike, however... Happened to me today. Inconsequential, but a reminder that I want to make my mind on this topic.

1) Anyone has used pepper spray? It works or is an illusory protection? (I personally feel that "under attack" I would be unlikely to aim properly)

2) Anyone has used a really loud horn ? (would probably startle the dog, but may not end the chase.)

Or is it just a game and there is no point in fighting back?
gauvins is offline  
Old 11-16-15, 09:37 AM
  #2  
boomhauer
Senior Member
 
boomhauer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 772
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 224 Post(s)
Liked 43 Times in 30 Posts
pepper spray works. It's fun. I had plenty of time to aim it the right way. Ranch dogs suck.
boomhauer is offline  
Old 11-16-15, 09:44 AM
  #3  
10 Wheels
Galveston County Texas
 
10 Wheels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: In The Wind
Posts: 32,505

Bikes: 02 GTO, 2011 Magnum

Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1187 Post(s)
Liked 853 Times in 415 Posts
I use both and they do work.

https://www.amazon.com/SABRE-RED-Pepp...RCE9H5HXQ53WQ4

Marine air horn. I wait til the dog gets close Then Blast the Horn.

SeaSense® Mini Air Horn | Academy






__________________
Fred "The Real Fred"


Last edited by 10 Wheels; 11-16-15 at 09:48 AM.
10 Wheels is offline  
Old 11-16-15, 09:50 AM
  #4  
Tourist in MSN
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 9,307

Bikes: 1961 Ideor, 1966 Perfekt 3 Speed AB Hub, 1994 Bridgestone MB-6, 2006 Airnimal Joey, 2009 Thorn Sherpa, 2013 Thorn Nomad MkII, 2015 VO Pass Hunter, 2017 Lynskey Backroad, 2017 Raleigh Gran Prix, 1980s Bianchi Mixte on a trainer. Others are now gone.

Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2673 Post(s)
Liked 842 Times in 688 Posts
Full length plastic frame pumps can be damaged if you use them on a dog.

Beware of dog owners, they can be worse.
Tourist in MSN is offline  
Old 11-16-15, 10:03 AM
  #5  
antokelly
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 3,275
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 158 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
if it's only one dog usually the squirt of water in the eye does the trick ,but it's 2 or more your in trouble they would have a plan how best to take your leg off.
i'm in Ireland we don't get packs of dogs over here .
antokelly is offline  
Old 11-16-15, 10:03 AM
  #6  
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
indyfabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 33,845
Mentioned: 202 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 15374 Post(s)
Liked 9,150 Times in 4,523 Posts
Another dog thread. Use the Advanced Search function and search for "dog" and/or "dogs" in the thread title and you will find more advice and opinions than you could imagine.
indyfabz is offline  
Old 11-16-15, 10:25 AM
  #7  
fietsbob
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Posts: 43,599

Bikes: 8

Mentioned: 197 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7607 Post(s)
Liked 1,330 Times in 838 Posts
Flash-Bang Grenades ..
fietsbob is offline  
Old 11-16-15, 10:35 AM
  #8  
Shimagnolo
Senior Member
 
Shimagnolo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Zang's Spur, CO
Posts: 9,049
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2763 Post(s)
Liked 3,399 Times in 1,728 Posts
Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
Flash-Bang Grenades ..
Shimagnolo is online now  
Old 11-16-15, 10:40 AM
  #9  
gauvins
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: QC Canada
Posts: 1,618

Bikes: Custom built LHT & Troll

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 655 Post(s)
Liked 69 Times in 56 Posts
Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Another dog thread. Use the Advanced Search function and search for "dog" and/or "dogs" in the thread title and you will find more advice and opinions than you could imagine.

This is what I get. For some reason this forum is either poorly indexed or the search algorithm is not up to snuff.
gauvins is offline  
Old 11-16-15, 10:46 AM
  #10  
Jarrett2
Senior Member
 
Jarrett2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: DFW
Posts: 4,126

Bikes: Steel 1x's

Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 631 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
There was a long running thread just recently. Most said go with pepper spray. A couple said air horns.

I was the one person that said kick them away if they come into range. Works for me, but apparently according to the other thread, that is cruel compared to spraying chemicals into their eyes and nostrils while they are running at full speed and also apparently, I'm the only one that has the ability to use my foot to push a dog away successfully

Out sprinting them is an option on a road bike, but typically not one to count on when on a loaded touring bike. For most, a quickly accessible air horn or pepper spray bottle is probably the best way to go. Getting it out quickly when a dog surprises you is the trick though. 10 wheels has the only good solution in that vein I've seen. I don't always remember to take everything on every ride, but I always carry my feet with me.
Jarrett2 is offline  
Old 11-16-15, 10:48 AM
  #11  
gauvins
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: QC Canada
Posts: 1,618

Bikes: Custom built LHT & Troll

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 655 Post(s)
Liked 69 Times in 56 Posts
Originally Posted by 10 Wheels View Post
I use both and they do work.
I assume that you blast your horn while riding and use pepper spray after stopping if the blast didn't produce the desired result, right? Horn works all/most/some of the time?

What is your experience with pressurized horns? don't they leak slowly and have to be replaced on a regular basis (I once had one that you could pressurize with a pump, but the container was the size of a water bottle).
gauvins is offline  
Old 11-16-15, 11:10 AM
  #12  
fietsbob
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Posts: 43,599

Bikes: 8

Mentioned: 197 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7607 Post(s)
Liked 1,330 Times in 838 Posts
Google finds Forum threads easier than the Internal here ..
fietsbob is offline  
Old 11-16-15, 11:14 AM
  #13  
RPK79
Custom User Title
 
RPK79's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: SE MN
Posts: 11,239

Bikes: Fuji Roubaix Pro & Quintana Roo Kilo

Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2862 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 30 Times in 13 Posts
Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
Google finds Forum threads easier than the Internal here ..
+1

Put in your search terms and then site:bikeforums.net
RPK79 is offline  
Old 11-16-15, 11:41 AM
  #14  
gauvins
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: QC Canada
Posts: 1,618

Bikes: Custom built LHT & Troll

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 655 Post(s)
Liked 69 Times in 56 Posts
Originally Posted by RPK79 View Post
+1

Put in your search terms and then site:bikeforums.net
this is what I tend to do, but maybe without specifying a given site
gauvins is offline  
Old 11-16-15, 11:50 AM
  #15  
Tourist in MSN
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 9,307

Bikes: 1961 Ideor, 1966 Perfekt 3 Speed AB Hub, 1994 Bridgestone MB-6, 2006 Airnimal Joey, 2009 Thorn Sherpa, 2013 Thorn Nomad MkII, 2015 VO Pass Hunter, 2017 Lynskey Backroad, 2017 Raleigh Gran Prix, 1980s Bianchi Mixte on a trainer. Others are now gone.

Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2673 Post(s)
Liked 842 Times in 688 Posts
Originally Posted by gauvins View Post
...
What is your experience with pressurized horns? don't they leak slowly and have to be replaced on a regular basis (I once had one that you could pressurize with a pump, but the container was the size of a water bottle).
I never used one while biking, but I have one of these for when I am using my sea kayak in heavily trafficed waters. If I pump it up at home before I go on a week long trip, if I don't use it there is still plenty of air in it at the end of the week.

Mine had an Aluminum tank. They also make ones that use plastic soda pop bottles, I would expect the plastic bottles to leak faster.

***

If doing a search on google, if you put quotes around words, then the words must be in that order to be found.

These searches will yield different results:
bikeforums.net large dogs
bikeforums.net "large dogs"

Last edited by Tourist in MSN; 11-16-15 at 12:07 PM.
Tourist in MSN is offline  
Old 11-16-15, 12:02 PM
  #16  
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
indyfabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 33,845
Mentioned: 202 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 15374 Post(s)
Liked 9,150 Times in 4,523 Posts
Originally Posted by gauvins View Post
This is what I get. For some reason this forum is either poorly indexed or the search algorithm is not up to snuff.
I get countless threads every time I search titles for "dog" and/or "dogs." https://www.bikeforums.net/search.php?searchid=12240587
indyfabz is offline  
Old 11-16-15, 12:15 PM
  #17  
seeker333
-
 
seeker333's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,865

Bikes: yes!

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 281 Post(s)
Liked 38 Times in 36 Posts
As mentioned before, best google is < "search keywords" site:bikeforums.net >

"large dogs" site:bikeforums.net returns over 50 posts on BF regarding dogs

bikeforums.net large dogs returns 3 posts

bikeforums.net "large dogs" returns 1 post

Don't waste time with BF built-in search.
seeker333 is offline  
Old 11-16-15, 01:07 PM
  #18  
mstateglfr 
Sunshine
 
mstateglfr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Des Moines, IA
Posts: 14,286

Bikes: '18 class built steel roadbike, '19 Fairlight Secan, '88 Schwinn Premis , Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V4, '89 Novara Trionfo

Mentioned: 115 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7814 Post(s)
Liked 4,772 Times in 2,762 Posts
Stand your ground, the dog will respect you for life...or end it. This is yet another topic that makes it so glaringly obvious that I ride in really boring places because nothing nuts happens to me. I haven't ever thought I needed an airhorn to ride my bike.
mstateglfr is offline  
Old 11-16-15, 01:18 PM
  #19  
El Gato27
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Texas
Posts: 230

Bikes: '88 Peugot 12 spd road bike, Nishiki hybrid, JC Penney 10 spd

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 61 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Or just let them bite you!

Happened to me this summer.

I passed "Bubba" fetching balls with his owner. Bubba saw me and took off after me, the owner kept calling him. I was about a 100 yards down the rode when Bubba chomped on my thigh, but he let go real quick. I didn't think he was still after me! Luckily I didn't take a tumble and it was only a chomp. Owner said he "plays" around like that. Idiot owner!

Guess I should carry an airhorn or something.
El Gato27 is offline  
Old 11-16-15, 01:44 PM
  #20  
Maelochs
Senior Member
 
Maelochs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 13,580

Bikes: 2015 Workswell 066, 2017 Workswell 093, 2014 Dawes Sheila, 1983 Cannondale 500, 1984 Raleigh Olympian, 2007 Cannondale Rize 4, 2017 Fuji Sportif 1 LE

Mentioned: 143 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6588 Post(s)
Liked 1,751 Times in 953 Posts
If you need a deterrent get one which works. Airhorn might work, but if it doesn't I doubt you'd have time to get off the bike and find pepper spray. Alos dismounting, even on the opposite side, leaves plenty of tender parts vulnerable.

Don't mess around if it isn't serious and don't, if it is.

Oh, and OP---never, never, never think "if I need to save myself I will screw up." Why plant that seed? Would you tell yourself "I am probably going to fall off my bike right in front of a speeding semi and get killed" before heading out for a ride?

(If he does i guess we won't be hearing back from him. )
Maelochs is offline  
Old 11-16-15, 02:06 PM
  #21  
spoiledrotten
Senior Member
 
spoiledrotten's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: South of the Mason-Dixon
Posts: 217

Bikes: 2015 Scott Speedster XL Frame, 2014 Diamondback hybrid, and a 20" Schwinn Unicycle (does that count?)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
My wife and I were attacked by 5 bad mixed bread dogs on a Saturday ride on one of the rails to trails. We out ran them that time, but I knew I would have to go back through that spot, so I stopped at the local dollar general store and picked up a can of Wasp Stopper. That stuff will stop their attack immediately.... seriously. When I did service work for a natural gas supplier, I used the mace that the mail deliverers carry. A rottweiler licked it off his face and kept coming at me. After that, it was nothing but Wasp Stopper. I was getting attached by two Rotts, some time afterward. I sprayed, they started foaming at the mouth, and ran off. It's me or the feral dogs, I'm going to do my best to rid myself of the problem, not just make them madder.
spoiledrotten is offline  
Old 11-16-15, 02:14 PM
  #22  
10 Wheels
Galveston County Texas
 
10 Wheels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: In The Wind
Posts: 32,505

Bikes: 02 GTO, 2011 Magnum

Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1187 Post(s)
Liked 853 Times in 415 Posts
Originally Posted by gauvins View Post
I assume that you blast your horn while riding and use pepper spray after stopping if the blast didn't produce the desired result, right? Horn works all/most/some of the time?

What is your experience with pressurized horns? don't they leak slowly and have to be replaced on a regular basis (I once had one that you could pressurize with a pump, but the container was the size of a water bottle).
Just started trike riding. Riding with a friend, two dogs attacked me...My Horn worked and stopped both dogs. I did not stop.

The friend behind me used the Pepper Spray.

I bought some after that incident.
__________________
Fred "The Real Fred"

10 Wheels is offline  
Old 11-16-15, 02:34 PM
  #23  
robow
Senior Member
 
robow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,694
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 506 Post(s)
Liked 191 Times in 129 Posts
can you find that "wasp stopper" in smaller containers so as to make it easier to while riding?
robow is offline  
Old 11-16-15, 03:28 PM
  #24  
Bassmanbob
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Treasure Coast, FL
Posts: 894

Bikes: 2014 Cannondale Supersix EVO 3, 2015 Trek 520, 2017 Bike Friday Pocket Rocket

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 244 Post(s)
Liked 216 Times in 117 Posts
I'd be very cautious with using an insectacide against a dog. It may be very effective, but I'd be concerned with legal ramifications. All I know is that I'm not buying it.
Bassmanbob is offline  
Old 11-16-15, 03:41 PM
  #25  
Jarrett2
Senior Member
 
Jarrett2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: DFW
Posts: 4,126

Bikes: Steel 1x's

Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 631 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
One thing that is not discussed much is looking and listening for dogs and understanding why they do what they do.

Most dog interactions are where dogs are protecting their territory. At least in their minds. When their owners, especially kids are in the yard with them, they can become more aggressive than usual as its more important that they defend their family. So like mentioned above, when you see a dog in the front yard with its owner or especially a dog playing with kids near the road, you need to really pay attention to its actions. Some will just watch you go by, some will go for blood.

Another tip is looking for nursing mother dogs. Dogs with swollen breasts for example. They will be extra aggressive if they feel you are threatening their puppies just by being anywhere near them.

Also, dogs get that pack mentality courage. If there are two dogs or three dogs, they might become more emboldened to make an attack. Something else to watch out for. But this sometimes has a funny backfire, they will misplace their aggression and attack each other as you ride by

Dogs that are away from their home rarely pose a threat. If you catch a dog away from its house, sometimes it will stand quietly as you pass or will run full speed away from you back to its yard. The funny thing is once in its yard, it will sometimes turn around and become aggressive.

Awareness tips, the closer a house is to the road, the more of a chance a dog will come out since to them you are deeper in their territory and they have to get you out. Look for dog houses outside as you approach. Listen for the sound of jingling dog tags or toe nails on the pavement behind you. Listen for fast feet in the leaves next to you.

Also, if they come at you loud, they are less likely to attack. Especially if they are angling to get behind you. The ones to watch out for come in a collision course at you with their head low and making no sound. They mean business typically.

I ride with loose dogs on every single ride I do. I don't carry horns or sprays. I feel like I have better options in dealing with them, but that's just me. I have a lot of experience dealing with dogs, I understand their behavior and have no fear of them. I usually end up making friends with the loose dogs I come into contact with.

Hope some of that helps.

Last edited by Jarrett2; 11-16-15 at 03:49 PM.
Jarrett2 is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.