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Happy Feet 11-28-15 03:48 PM

Man, I'm feelin kind ghetto with my 6 speed...

Buffalo Buff 11-28-15 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imi (Post 18350206)
Are there often instances when a brifter fails that you lose both shifting AND braking? Or only if the whole thing gets wrecked in a crash sort of scenario?

Never heard of it. I snapped the cable to my front derailleur on a tour with brifters and the brakes worked fine.

mstateglfr 11-28-15 04:47 PM

Yes, that could be turned the 2 setups I am thinking of both use relatively wide front derailleurs and are lower on the road and mtb totem poles compared to 11speed.

hueyhoolihan 11-28-15 05:22 PM

nine gears is, IME, too many for touring. in fact, use nine or less in back and throw away the front derailleur and extra chainring. :)

robow 11-28-15 05:48 PM

One other thing about incompatibility, and this is why I'm not bumping my 10 speed bikes up to 11 speed any time soon, is that it would make my 3 or 4 wheelsets obsolete because you can't put an 11 speed cassette on a Shimano Ultegra/105 rear hub that was capable of a 9 or 10 speed cluster, in fact you can't even just replace the original freewheel portion of the hub with an 11 speed compatible freewheel. and make it work.
Again, thank you Shimano :mad:

Edit: I just was told by a friend that there is a way you can make your 9/10 speed wheels work with an 11 speed cassette and that is by purchasing a small independent company's proprietary 11 speed cassette called an Edco Monoblock. It is machined out of a single piece of steel and will supposedly work on a Shimano or Campy hub (they have versions for each). Of course at $225 for a single cassette you might just consider rebuilding your old wheel with an 11 speed hub but I thought I would post this for completeness sake.

MichaelW 11-29-15 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squeezebox (Post 18350561)
For me, I don't need an 11 or 12 tooth cog. So I would be okay with 9 speed, I think,

The sprocket count (8/9/10/11 speed) is a totally different issue to the sprocket size or range.

As sprocket count increases, sprockets get thinner and closer together. Chains need to be thinner. On some chains, just the central roller is reduced. On others, the thickness of the sideplate is reduced.
Hi sprocket count systems are designed for high-end groupsets with high-end metallurgy. The danger of weakness becomes more significant as you reduce the price and quality.


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