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Old 05-03-05, 07:30 PM
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Alcohol stove cook-set find

I found this Swedish Trancia alcohol burner cook-set on a military surplus website and wanted to share my find. I just finished my pepsi-can stove set-up ( https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/journ..._id=17715&v=4p ) and then I find this and so very cheap $10 bucks for three complete cook-sets. Share them with a friend. I like my non-stick cook pot and cozy better but this is not a bad way to go.
https://www.majorsurplusnsurvival.com...egory_Code=183

I also like the way you can save fuel by screwing on the cap to the burner and saving what fuel is left. What do you all think of this set-up?
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Moni Neville on CGOAB has acquired a similar cookset. You may be able to discuss with her on her guestbook for her current European tour what she thinks of it.
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that's a great find! I'm ordering some now.....they have some other good prices on that site as well.
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Sounds cool but seems a bit heavy.

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Yes, a bit heavy, but this is my main stove. Careful with alcohol in the wind, you can't see the flame.
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I may try it anyway. I was thinking about camping with my brother's family, and the thought of trying to fight a fire with wood and all is no fun. Maybe cool for marshmallows, but nothing else.

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Originally Posted by koffee brown
Maybe cool for marshmallows, but nothing else.
Maybe hot?
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Let's compromise by calling it lukewarm.

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I've seen the burners alone go for $10 - $12. According to Moni Neville's CGOAB journal, a single set weight was 1.5 lbs. seems reasonable. (the weight shown is the shipping weight for three sets)
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For a while there I thought there was a typo in the name "trancia". The Swedish stove brand is "Trangia" and they are a bit more expensive than USD10 for a set. I paid approximately EUR40 for mine several years ago.

Methinks this is el cheapo knockoff, the mix-up with the Trangia brand is intentional and further I very much doubt it's Swedish. Some sites seem to call it Swiss army surplus stove. But for 10 bucks, if it cooks, the brand is pretty much irrelevant.

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"Methinks this is el cheapo knockoff, the mix-up with the Trangia brand is intentional and further I very much doubt it's Swedish. Some sites seem to call it Swiss army surplus stove. But for 10 bucks, if it cooks, the brand is pretty much irrelevant."

Methinks you are right in both cases, Knockoff and irrelevant. I decided to give it a try, $17 delivered for 3 sets. I can give away or sell the other two cooksets to friends. I may end up just using the burner if it is better than my pepsi-can burner.
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yeah, at that price they are disposable.
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I agree. It's cheap (and probably cheaply made). But you can't beat the price for 3 brass burners.

This place is really into no-name survivalist type equipment...I live about 3 miles from this store, in Gardena, Ca. (a suburb in South LA County) Went there once to buy a straw gardening hat. Felt out of place--I don't wear camouflage and the last I heard, the sky isn't falling
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I've never been too happy with alcohol stoves. They just don't put out much heat.
If you are trying to boil water from amountain stream...it takes forever.

Mec had (discontinued) primus lpg burners on for $25 CDN.

Small and light the only weight is the lpg cartridge.

If that pot on the fake Trangia stove is is as light and flimsy as it looks in the pic, you would be in danger of burning through it if you tryto use it with anything but an alcohol stove.

Still for $10...
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I've never been too happy with alcohol stoves. They just don't put out much heat.
If you are trying to boil water from amountain stream...it takes forever.

Mec had (discontinued) primus lpg burners on for $25 CDN.

Small and light the only weight is the lpg cartridge.

If that pot on the fake Trangia stove is is as light and flimsy as it looks in the pic, you would be in danger of burning through it if you tryto use it with anything but an alcohol stove.

Still for $10...
...it's better than nothing.

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I can't help but think that people equate heat efficiency of stoves with the noise they make while they do their thing. The noisier they are, the more work they must be doing... hmmm, maybe... or not.

Boiling water is pretty quick and easy with an alcohol burner if you use an efficient and properly designed windshield. But it's the other forms of cooking that the trangias really come into their own. I love using them and cooking with them. It's controlled heat that doesn't leave me with a 30-minute clean-up of burnt food on the bottom of pots!
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One of my buddies works in a surplus store where they were selling swiss alcohol stoves with cookware that look similar to the one being discussed. It was signifincatly heavier than the pop can stove that I made.
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The problem with the pop can stove is that you then have to purchase complimentary cookware. That does get heavy and bulky. I chose instead to buy the Trangia set that includes the non-stick fry pan, a pot and cover as well as a simmer attachment. I've devised my own wind sheild and find it great to cook with. Previously I had used a pressurised kerosene stove. I think the Trangia is much easier to operate and just as fast. Carrying a little methyl hydrate is all you need and it doesn't stink. I really couldn't imagine touring without it.

By the way, I have some recipes on my tour site!
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Actually, at his surplus store, I found some kind of alcohol-wick setup for 4 bucks that included a container of fuel with a wick, and a really light stand/crosspieces. I tossed the wick thing and use the stand/crosspieces with my regular camping cookware. The pop can stove and the stand/crosspieces fit inside the actual camping cookset. The whole affair is really simple and light.
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I actually wouldn't mind having it for my emergency pack that I'm putting together. You know... the one that says "in case sh** happens" on the outside. I'm putting it together for my brother. I just think he lives and works too close to D.C. to not have some kind of emergency plan.

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Originally Posted by stokell
The problem with the pop can stove is that you then have to purchase complimentary cookware. That does get heavy and bulky. I chose instead to buy the Trangia set that includes the non-stick fry pan, a pot and cover as well as a simmer attachment. I've devised my own wind sheild and find it great to cook with. Previously I had used a pressurised kerosene stove. I think the Trangia is much easier to operate and just as fast. Carrying a little methyl hydrate is all you need and it doesn't stink. I really couldn't imagine touring without it.

By the way, I have some recipes on my tour site!
A 1L walmart grease pot works perfectly with a pop can (or any other alcohol stove) and is perfect for a solo camper. It weighs next to nothing and can be used to pack the stove and associated gear. You can make a pot stand from a coat hanger and wind screen from a piece of heavy duty aluminum foil (fold to make three layers). A 0.25L soda bottle (sold at walmart for kids) makes a great fuel bottle for short trips. All this, plus an aluminum pot lifter match case or lighter will pack neatly into the grease pot. If you make a pot cozy from a cheap foam camping pad, you pack the pot into the cozy and you have a very compact cook set that has it's own protective padding. Total weight without fuel is about 10 oz.
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I bought one of these stoves last year from Major Surplus and Supply. No, it is not a Trangia nor is it an el cheapo from some third world country, it is a Svea, made in Sweden and seems to be of very high quality. I ordered three more. I'll give 'em away to my camping buddies.
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OK, I ordered and received my 3 pack of cook-sets and here are the results for your review.

1. The manufacturer is both Trangia and Svea. Svea on the wind screen and Trangia on the burner. All items have the same logo which is three little crowns, which leads me to believe Svea and Trangia are one in the same or were. (Yes, I spelled Trangia correct, it is not trancia)

2. This is a heavy duty set of goods as you would expect from army surplus. The two piece pot is heavy stainless steel. This is not a cheap knock-off as had been suspected.
- 2.75lbs for the complete set (burner, two piece pot, wind screen and fuel container nested together)
- 6oz for the burner alone (This is a brass burner with a screw-on lid which will hold excess fuel, I tested it)
- For a general reference, my pop-can set-up with the same components is 1.25 lbs. My pop-can burner weights .5oz. https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/journ..._id=17715&v=4p

3. Side by side boil test showed that for two cups of water (without lid so I could see when it boiled) that the Trangia boiled the water in 5.5 minutes and my pop-can burner did 6.25 minutes, but the pop-can stove burned one minute longer with the same amount of fuel.

4. The three sets cost $17.00 delivered, $5.67 each. I've already sold two of the sets to friends and will keep one for myself. For a 5.5oz penalty, I may use the burner as a part of my touring rig, it is very well made, far more durable than the pop-can burner and I can save unused fuel. The rest is much heaver that my aluminum non-stick pot and wind screen, so I will stay with it. I will however use the complete set for car camping.

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