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Old 01-12-16, 03:58 PM
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I find the mobile version of this site to be terrible. At the bottom of the page, you can choose mobile or full(desktop?). I go full site even on my phone. Easier to navigate and post, at least for me.

As for Dynamo hubs- I just recently got one but havent used it because the bike itll be used on isnt built. Universal Cycles has a great wheel builder site where you can choose the hub, rim, and spokes and they will build it. Good pricing too, when you compare it to what it would cost to even do it yourself. 36h rims- no need for less.
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Old 01-12-16, 05:14 PM
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Dynamos? I've been wondering about this. I'm just getting back into it and haven't bike trekked since before cell phones. I think if you want to keep your iPhone on a lot of the time, it's the best way to go. If you plan to use your lights a lot too, it's a no brainer.

FWIW I take my solar charger if I go car camping + day hiking, but otherwise it's a bit bigger than I'd want to backpack in. My current thinking is get a battery GPS and keep my stupidPhone off most of the time. I figure there'll be a place to charge it every 2/3 days, which will be fine. Then again I started when all there was were payphones and maps made with paper.
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Old 01-12-16, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Ethan294



So this is it! The frame and forks! I took this picture a few hours ago and finally figured out how to upload it to the forum. (was having trouble with the iPhone version of this web sight).
Right now i'm using the information you kind folks have provided to research wheels. does anyone have an opinion on the Dynamo Hubs?
I was going to use a solar cell to charge my phone and then use batteries for my head light and rear blinky lights.
If I was doing my Trucker build again I'd probably try out a dyno hub; seems like a nice luxury to have main lights always available w/o worrying about batteries. Haven't used a dyno; once used a Union (German) BB-mounted generator w/halogen light that was fairly bright for that time. But now the dyno/light tech is so much better it seems a good choice for commuters or bike-camping tourists that don't have daily access to electric hookup.
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Old 01-15-16, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Ethan294
I payed $350. I am now faced with the challange of identifying the right parts i need and then purchasing them for a fair price. If anyone out the has parts laying around they want to sell, or just some advice on where to look, please dont be shy.
Great deal! Congrats!
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Originally Posted by Ethan294
I payed $350. I am now faced with the challange of identifying the right parts i need and then purchasing them for a fair price. If anyone out the has parts laying around they want to sell, or just some advice on where to look, please dont be shy.
If you are unsure what components to buy, a good starting point is to go to Surly's website and see what parts are spec'ed for complete LHT build and then purchase the same or similar.
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Old 01-17-16, 09:01 AM
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I get confused with the spec measurements.
Its says --26˝ wheel 42, 46, 5062cm; 700c wheel 5664cm

I have a 700c. But what are those other numbers after it about?
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Old 01-17-16, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Ethan294
I get confused with the spec measurements.
Its says --26˝ wheel 42, 46, 50–62cm; 700c wheel 56–64cm

I have a 700c. But what are those other numbers after it about?
What it is telling you is: the 26" wheel is available on the 42, 46, 50-62 cm sized frames, and the 700c wheels are only available on 56-64 cm frames.
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Old 01-17-16, 09:13 PM
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Telling someone else they need the big truck or the Lotus is kind of unhelpful.
I think opinions are generally a waste of time. But as to whether the underlying information is correct, there are specific differences between cars and bikes: 1) Cars are powered by motors. With all that surplus energy in any task, it is amazing how little one cares about how it is used. I can spend bike prices on a single saw for woodworking if it is hand powered. Motor driven almost any bandsaw will do; Bikes are basically worn like clothing, and as such there will always be a fair part of the human family that can look like a git, or buy custom made; 3) Weight and performance mater in bikes, somewhat the same as 1) but a different angle, engineering becomes critical as weight is added, though one way around is to loose the weight.

A bike for a long tour does need to meet some minimum suitability requirements, but they fall way short of need to spend $4k.
Yeah, and most of these discussions do not even begin to look into that. My wife did a ton of touring on thrift store 3 speeds I wouldn't ride to the store. Any bike is way more significant than what bike, and many times the cheap end of the spectrum actually has better engineering. I remember looking at this bike that had tangent plate reinforcement on the tubes, far more effective than lugs. Of course there are bike shaped objects that are all show and no go, sorta Walmart things, though some of those aren't bad.

Two things though: 1) For most people something like a transam is a lifetime event, or their favourite passtime, no reason not to have a nice bike. You don't need it, but it may add pleasure to the exercise. In social discussions one often gets into the whole justification process, one can only justify the mean expenditure, but one can enjoy much better. 2) The other thing is for 40 years now manufacturing has been driving better quality into components at a cheaper price point. I'm not mechanical, but something like ramps on gears has the capacity to make some crud shift better than Nuvo Record of my youth. How far down crap creek does one want to ride this incredible evolution. On the one hand, bikes are better than ever. On the other there is little reason to spend for more than Walmart Jean quality, but that is kinda sad.

ST was suitable for the packing style I used on that trip and is like an old friend. It is probably worth maybe $300.
There is a shabby chic or vintage aspect that is fun at times also. I would gladly still ride a Canondale MTB I had from the late 90s, the only bike I have ever had stolen. But at the end of the day, I know I can design a far better frame today. Every satisfactory purchase needs to fully satisfy some criteria. One can find pleasure in fully satisfying: nostalgia; price; how smart am I; best design; most efficient; best fit; best quality; etc... No bike gets it all, and so long as you get one, that seems to make people happy.
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Old 01-19-16, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MassiveD
I think opinions are generally a waste of time. But as to whether the underlying information is correct, there are specific differences between cars and bikes: 1) Cars are powered by motors. With all that surplus energy in any task, it is amazing how little one cares about how it is used. I can spend bike prices on a single saw for woodworking if it is hand powered. Motor driven almost any bandsaw will do; Bikes are basically worn like clothing, and as such there will always be a fair part of the human family that can look like a git, or buy custom made; 3) Weight and performance mater in bikes, somewhat the same as 1) but a different angle, engineering becomes critical as weight is added, though one way around is to loose the weight.
Some good points. I find an interesting contrast between car & bike industries: in the old days one needed to buy $$ Euro (basically German) cars if one wanted a car that handled well & got decent mileage & had ergonomic seats etc. Now, almost all cars are fairly comfortable, fairly reliable etc--marketing tends to focus on image or silly stuff like phone compatibility. But while the bike market now offers a blizzard of options, convenience & practicality is not emphasized. In a logical world touring bikes would dominate the market since touring bikes work well for rec riding, commuting etc also. Avg rider would probably enjoy the convenience of IGH/belt-drive but those remain a niche item.
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Old 01-20-16, 10:06 AM
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Well it's been a while since I posted something here, and I thought I would jump in with a recent purchase. For years I was mainly a road "ride as fast as I can" bike guy, but with age (I'm 54 now) I feel like my goals have changed. Recently retired and I have a strong desire to find places to tour, so I've found this thread to be pretty close to describing my 6 month search.

In the Philadelphia Craigslist this past weekend there were two Surly disc truckers for sale, both in the hunter green color. One a 56cm (I bought this one) and the other a 54cm. Both were in excellent shape, relatively new and with low miles. The one I bought had been originally purchased by a high school senior for a school project that involved him touring the country. He says he rode some local training rides, then a 250 mile tour but that was basically it. It came with a rack and panniers (ortlieb rear bags). Seems I've seen a few LHT and Disc Truckers out there, not always in my size but I know I saw a 58cm version not too long ago. I paid $1200 for the bike, what I though was a fair price for a barely broken in bike. Oh yeah, came with a brooks B17 saddle too.

Here's a few pictures. I will say that I think this is a suitable bike for our upcoming Pitt-DC trip, and beyond. I was almost at the point of ordering a Bilenky bike, I mean I was going to order it this week, then I found the trucker on CL over the weekend. It seems to fit like a glove, I'm happy. Good luck in your search OP.



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Old 08-01-16, 10:02 AM
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thank you everyone. Your advice was very helpful. I built my Long Haul Trucker during the winter and rode it across the country this spring/fall. I just got back and had the time of my life. check out my blog! Ethan And The Purple Crayon

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Originally Posted by Ethan294
thank you everyone. Your advice was very helpful. I built my Long Haul Trucker during the winter . . .
Started reading your blog, although had to scan backwards forever to get the beginning (just seemed logical to read from the beginning of the trip). I have bookmarked it to finish later, some amazing photos, enjoying your journey!
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Thank you for checking it out! I plan on organizing it all into a little book later this year.
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