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Old 01-08-16, 06:59 PM
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Looking to buy a Surly LHT

Im preparing for a cross country trip this summer.(oregon to NY). Ive decided i want to purchase a Surly Long Haul Trucker around 60 cm, give or take. I dont want to purchase a brand new one unless i cant find one used that is still in good condition.

If anyone has a LHT or knows someone who might want to sell theirs please hollar at me. I live on Long Island NY.
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Any chance you can afford a better bicycle?
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Originally Posted by Squeezebox
Any chance you can afford a better bicycle?
This is not very helpful. The OP is looking to buy a good touring bike used without breaking the bank and you suggest that he (or she) should spend more money.



The Surly LHT is a very fine touring bike. There is nothing a more expensive bike will do other than cost more money.

If the OP wants to save some money, the REI novara randonnee is a fine touring bike. The fuji touring is even less expensive and a decent bike.

If it were my money, I'd opt for the randonee (great wheels and good parts) but the Surly is a fine bike as well.

Used Surlys don't come up often and they hold their value. Just keep that in mind as you look for a bike.
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Originally Posted by Squeezebox
Any chance you can afford a better bicycle?

Why would he/she want to do this, and what would you recommend?
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Searchtempest is an excellent site to search as it can pull from a radius and combs thru multiple Craigslist sites.
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Originally Posted by Squeezebox
Any chance you can afford a better bicycle?
Any chance you could refrain from posting this sort of response?
What is inherently wrong with an LHT?
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Like this? All you need is a donor bike.https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/bik/5393379828.html
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Originally Posted by Squeezebox
Any chance you can afford a better bicycle?
Any chance you could learn something about touring bikes before you start offering advice on them?
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Also, there are groups on Facebook one being Salsa and Surly trader, as well as others where a Long Haul Trucker pops up occasionally. If you don't mind going used.
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Yep, they come up for sale here occasionally, but I've never seen a good deal:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/SurlyLHT

Ethan294, your best bet is to visit an LBS who really wants to sell a bike in the dead of winter, and prices it accordingly, which shouldn't be too hard to find. If you are mechanically inclined, the least expensive route is to buy a LHT frameset and DIY using suitable recycled components from another bike.

It used to be possible to buy discounted new framesets from several LBS websites, but QBP killed this a couple years back. You have to go to a QBP-affiliated LBS now to buy a Surly frameset or Complete bicycle. This is doubly expensive since they don't discount very much, plus you get hit with sales tax, which was never included in out-of-state internet transactions.

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Low guality steel, low guality componants. Look at Co-Motion for example. And many others. You get what you pay for.
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Wow! I didnt expect to get so many responses so fast. Thank you everyone for the input. I will look up the names you've mentioned and check out the websights.

I am mechanicly inclined, just nervous about finding all the parts. I'm very new to touring.
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Originally Posted by Squeezebox
Low guality steel, low guality componants. Look at Co-Motion for example. And many others. You get what you pay for.
Comotion? That'll cost $4000 vs like $1300. They aren't even in the same category.

What's specifically wrong with the LHT components? I would change the crank, if I had the money, but really what is so bad it's considered 'low quality'?

And what about the frame's material is 'low quality'? It's double butted chromoly and a chromo fork.
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Originally Posted by seeker333
Any chance you could learn something about touring bikes before you start offering advice on them?
Maybe you can set your sights on something better than a cheap bicycle.
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Originally Posted by Squeezebox
Low guality steel, low guality componants. Look at Co-Motion for example. And many others. You get what you pay for.
huh? thanks for the expert opinion! ......coming from the dude that just last month
was axin' questions like "what are platform pedals?" and "what is a pannier?"
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Originally Posted by Ethan294
Wow! I didnt expect to get so many responses so fast. Thank you everyone for the input. I will look up the names you've mentioned and check out the websights.

I am mechanicly inclined, just nervous about finding all the parts. I'm very new to touring.
Good luck on the search and build. It can be frustrating but rewarding to build a bike up.
Just make sure to measure twice and cut once- do research to ensure everything will work.

Something to keep in mind is that the LHT spec list is on Surly's website. You can reference it for each component and look at what they use and what possible alternatives there are.

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Originally Posted by Ethan294
Wow! I didnt expect to get so many responses so fast..
hah! it's winter, and we're all stuck in mom's basement wearing our aquaman underoos.
only on bike forums cause our credit ran out on everquest since we got fired from the
diner for, well, never mind what we got fired for. anyway, they couldn't prove it.

anyways, no need to limit yourself to lht. plenty of good touring bikes on the market in
the winter. you could consider an older steel mtb. search the threads for details.
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I just did a quick count on CL Portland, OR, and there were at least 10 LHT's listed. However, most were only a couple hundred dollars below the new price.

I picked up 2 LHT's at very good prices for our daughters. I had to be patient and lucky; I was looking for a 50 cm and a 42cm frame. The 42 cm bike was the lucky one, a 2014, like-new bike, for $500. I'd been looking for a couple of years for that particular bike; small sizes are not that common.

If you have the time, and know what you are looking for, a used bike can be a real bargain. However, I don't think I'd buy a bike unseen.

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Originally Posted by Squeezebox
Low guality steel, low guality componants. Look at Co-Motion for example. And many others. You get what you pay for.
You're simply wrong on this.
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Originally Posted by Squeezebox
Low guality steel, low guality componants. Look at Co-Motion for example. And many others. You get what you pay for.
I'm going to be a little more blunt. In this case, I believe that you are really off base. Have you ever ridden a LHT or a Co-Motion? Have you even seen a LHT or a Co-Motion Touring bike?

We have 3 LHT's and a custom built Co-Motion Nor'wester Tour in our family's bike fleet. I built my wife's Co-Mo and my LHT from the frames up. They both have very similar components. They are both very capable touring bikes. Sure, the Co-Motion is a beautiful machine, but that is not the reason I got it for my wife as a retirement present. She has some fit issues, and the 47 cm frame was built to accommodate them. My wife loves that bike, and has put 16,000 miles on it during the 4 years she has had it. The other thing you get with the Co-Motion is excellent customer service. Their shop is only 45 minutes from my home, and I get into their shop regularly.

I also have a Cannondale T2 (another unbelievable CL find that I stumbled on while looking for a bike for our 4'11" daughter) and a Bianchi Volpe, both good touring bikes. I prefer the Volpe, not because it is built any better; it just fits like a glove. I have probably toured 5-7,000 miles on each of those 3 bikes, and the LHT is on a par with any of them. My wife has been after me to get a Co-Motion. It is tempting, but I'm happy riding my " low quality steel, low quality components".

While the LHT is not my favorite touring bike, it is reliable and capable of touring anywhere in the world. The main reason I prefer one of my other bikes for touring, over the LHT, is the Trucker does not fit me very well. The top tubes are proportionately longer than similar sized bikes. That does not accommodate my long legs and short torso very well.

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CGOAB website has better bikes for sale often. There is now a Black LHT delux custom 60cm with 26er wheels. Zero miles. Dyno hub also. The guy says it was for an instructional video. $2200 in Florida.

Not that I endorse any bike without a Rohloff. ha
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Originally Posted by saddlesores
hah! it's winter, and we're all stuck in mom's basement wearing our aquaman underoos.
only on bike forums cause our credit ran out on everquest since we got fired from the
diner for, well, never mind what we got fired for. anyway, they couldn't prove it.
Ha, you are sooo wrong, they're Spideyman underoos.........unfortunately you nailed the rest.
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I love my Surly Disc Trucker so much I'm upgrading it with a Rohloff hub. I's a great touring bike. Get one or two.
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Many LBS's will take some money off if you get last years model. You get a brand new bike for $130 less and they free up inventory. Win-Win. In addition to this, my LBS offered 10% off any add on's I bought for it within 6 months of purchase. It made a big investment a little easier to swallow. Ask around.
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Originally Posted by Ethan294
I am mechanicly inclined, just nervous about finding all the parts.
I've built custom on a LHT frameset this past Fall. Finding components for the LHT is not that difficult. If you'd like a detailed list of components, pm me.

[I've researched touring bikes quite a bit and came to the conclusion that the LHT is one of the better touring bike on the market and possibly the best as far as quality / price is concerned. You'll find extremely favourable reviews on most sites. See roadbike review, cycling about, pedalshift or Tom Allen]
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