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Old 02-16-16, 05:37 AM
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20 24 spoke count

Can a 165 lbs rider with 20 lbs of gear get by with 20s 24r spoke wheelset? I try to stay on good roads
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Old 02-16-16, 05:56 AM
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Can a 165 lbs rider with 20 lbs of gear get by with 20s 24r spoke wheelset? I try to stay on good roads
I'm 180 lb. and I have run 20 lb. extra using some older 28H wheels which are probably not as strong as a more modern lower spoke count wheel set. I do carry the extra weight on my handle bars and would suggest that or a frame bag to keep from adding extra weight solely on the rear wheel.

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Old 02-16-16, 06:02 AM
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Everything on the handlebar? That's a hit on steering versatility. But yes. I only plan on carrying like 10 to 15 in the back
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Can a 165 lbs rider with 20 lbs of gear get by with 20s 24r spoke wheelset? I try to stay on good roads
Just out of curiosity what bike do you have?

Also if you are really concerned about it you can take a couple of fibrefix kits, but I think you should be ok if they have been well built, if they are carbon deep dish rims I hear they are alot stiffer and stronger than the old alloy rims.
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Everything on the handlebar? That's a hit on steering versatility. But yes. I only plan on carrying like 10 to 15 in the back
While noticeable at first, it soon becomes 'normal'.

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Old 02-16-16, 06:18 AM
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I'm 155 with 20 pounds of gear and tour on 28H wheels. I have no science to back this up, but those "feel" marginal to me and I would not go with anything less. I broke a front spoke on tour braking on a very steep descent and that bothered me. But I enjoy the light weight, and they are very nice wheels that were given to me.

Your decision will depend on factors like how far you're going, where you're going, your aversion to risk, your ability to fix problems in the field under adverse conditions, if you have enough money to buy another set of wheels, etc.
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I can probably justify the purchase of a pair of mavic opens if I sell my current touring bike. I have a beater road bike that's not seeing much action. I'd like to turn it into a touring bike too.

Also definitely not taking carbon rims on a tour. Their stiffness and lightweight make them only suitable for racing imo.
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Old 02-16-16, 07:57 AM
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you know what, I think you should try it out, and then get back to us.

Take into account all the myriad of variables, wheelset, how they have been tensioned, what you carry, tires and pressures, how rough you are riding over rough stuff, do you unweight bike over potholes, do you jump curbs, do you stand and hammer it a lot......

in the end, you'll have your answer for you and your variables.
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This exact thread is posted in Bike Mechanics and Touring. Please don't do that anymore.
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For my wife who weighs in at less than 120 lbs, 24 would likely work but I personally, at your and my weight, would never tempt anything less than 28 front and 32 rear. Mind you this is just a generality without knowing more about the wheels.
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This exact thread is posted in Bike Mechanics and Touring. Please don't do that anymore.
May I ask why?
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Originally Posted by djb View Post
you know what, I think you should try it out, and then get back to us...

...in the end, you'll have your answer for you and your variables.
Sensible advice.

spectastic, If you decide that a full-on touring bike isn't for you, there are some good wheel sets available for your beater roadie. A couple of years ago I picked up from Velomine a set of 32H CXP22 / Sora 2300 / 14 ga. wheels that are quite suitable for CC and light touring and they didn't cost much.

While I really like my Open Pros, I always felt a bit more comfortable using a more robust rim on my distance roadies.

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Yea ok. Stick to 32h for less headache.
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Originally Posted by andrewclaus View Post
I broke a front spoke on tour braking on a very steep descent and that bothered me.
Just out of curiosity, disc brakes?
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Old 02-16-16, 10:10 AM
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like in your mechanics double post .. only using 16" wheels ..


700C? Bring money to buy new wheels if they fail on the road.

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Yea ok. Stick to 32h for less headache.
Go to 36 Spokes.

My 32 broke

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I weigh 150 and have a cheap mavic aksium 20/24 spoke wheelset that I don't hesitate to ride on rough dirt trails carrying 20lbs. in bike packing bags (tent, pad, sleeping bag up front weigh only 6 lbs. including the bag/harness holding it, then a frame bag with heavier stuff, and a seat bag with clothes and whatnot).

heck, I've even done the same on my HED wheelset with 18 front spokes!
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May I ask why?
It's against forum policy. It's considered spamming. Basic Guidelines
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Originally Posted by spectastic View Post
I can probably justify the purchase of a pair of mavic opens if I sell my current touring bike. I have a beater road bike that's not seeing much action. I'd like to turn it into a touring bike too.

Also definitely not taking carbon rims on a tour. Their stiffness and lightweight make them only suitable for racing imo.

Are the mountain bikers using carbon rims?
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Are the mountain bikers using carbon rims?
I know a roadie who has second thoughts about carbon rims.


I've also broken 3 spokes in 3 days on the front 32 spoke wheel on my CX bike. They were well built wheels, but had seen hard use. They failed on a tour that was almost all pavement. The front wheel was not heavily loaded. BTW I weight 155 lb.

If you feel good about your rims, go for it. Just have a plan B, just in case. I wouldn't take my road bike which has 24 ( front is radially spoked) spoked wheels. There are are also other reasons I would not take my road bike; comfort being one of them.

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I go the opposite : 40 front, 48 rear Mavic Mod 4 rims.
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Just out of curiosity, disc brakes?
No, rim brakes.
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Not that I think spoke count doesn't matter, but anymore the strength and durability of a wheel isn't determined primarily by number of spokes. I've had quite a few 32-spoke wheels that were garbage. The two strongest wheel sets I have are 20/24 count. I don't think I would tour on them, but more because I have a 32-spoke set that I consider good enough for touring. I can save the lower count wheels for road riding and racing. The main advantage of touring with a higher spoke count isn't strength, in my opinion. It's that a broken spoke or other problem is easier to repair to "good enough" status on the side of the road, so you can ride to the nearest bike shop instead of hitchhiking or walking.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
I go the opposite : 40 front, 48 rear Mavic Mod 4 rims.

Man!! That's a lot of spokes.
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10 + years several tours only Broke 1 spoke .. had the spare with me.
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