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imi 04-10-16 11:13 AM

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[MENTION=9839]saddlesores[/MENTION] thx for the new word 'micturate'

Yegads me mates down the effing pub will micturate themselves laughing when I say I'm off to the John to micturate ;)

scroungetech 04-27-16 01:53 PM

I try to stay as friendly & neutral as possible here, and have just one thought to add. One of the most knowledgeable bike shop owners & mechanics I've ever had the pleasure of dealing with, Larry Black at Mt Airy bikes in Maryland, who keeps about 2000 used bikes in stock at any one time, when faced with a bunch of my questions based on internet reading, summed it up like this. "Over-reading is just as bad as over-eating." In other words, develop your sense of bike-feel by going out and riding and _feeling_ the bike with senses that are more primal than the parts of your brain that read words on a screen. Then you'll know what works & what you might like to upgrade. This is why my Surly Troll is a stripped frame that hangs on a hook, and my early '90's lugged Schwinn High Plains is my preferred ride. Yeah, I got it at a flea mkt for $90, yeah the seat tube & bottom bracket were full of field corn & mouse droppings, yeah the paint is thrashed, yeah all my racks need p-clamps & hose clamps for mounting, and yeah I over-hauled it myself and replaced all the stock components with parts from my local bike co-op, bike swaps & 2nd hand on ebay. But I love how it feels & how it fits me better than any bike I've ever owned or test-ridden. I like it so much that when I found another one just like it on CL for $50 I bought it just to have a backup. I would've never figured this out unless I stopped reading & started riding. Mega-thanks to the local non-profit bike co-op near me, The Common Wheel, for teaching me to solve mechanical conundrums along the way. Now I'm gonna switch off this interactive TV internet thing that mostly attempts to sells me stuff I don't really need & go ride a bike instead.

tmac100 04-27-16 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by imi (Post 18679519)
@saddlesores thx for the new word 'micturate'

Yegads me mates down the effing pub will micturate themselves laughing when I say I'm off to the John to micturate ;)

Such are the magical properties in the English language. No wonder my students here in Qatar are having such a b**tch of a time learning English.... and I teach Chemistry and Physics :eek:

imi 04-27-16 03:09 PM

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Good grief, yes. Learning english as a foreign language is one thing, but then with all the global and regional accents, dialects, slang, jargon and micturating posh words that hardly anyone has ever heard before! Must be a b*tch :/

Happy Feet 04-27-16 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by scroungetech (Post 18723237)
I try to stay as friendly & neutral as possible here, and have just one thought to add. One of the most knowledgeable bike shop owners & mechanics I've ever had the pleasure of dealing with, Larry Black at Mt Airy bikes in Maryland, who keeps about 2000 used bikes in stock at any one time, when faced with a bunch of my questions based on internet reading, summed it up like this. "Over-reading is just as bad as over-eating." In other words, develop your sense of bike-feel by going out and riding and _feeling_ the bike with senses that are more primal than the parts of your brain that read words on a screen. Then you'll know what works & what you might like to upgrade. This is why my Surly Troll is a stripped frame that hangs on a hook, and my early '90's lugged Schwinn High Plains is my preferred ride. Yeah, I got it at a flea mkt for $90, yeah the seat tube & bottom bracket were full of field corn & mouse droppings, yeah the paint is thrashed, yeah all my racks need p-clamps & hose clamps for mounting, and yeah I over-hauled it myself and replaced all the stock components with parts from my local bike co-op, bike swaps & 2nd hand on ebay. But I love how it feels & how it fits me better than any bike I've ever owned or test-ridden. I like it so much that when I found another one just like it on CL for $50 I bought it just to have a backup. I would've never figured this out unless I stopped reading & started riding. Mega-thanks to the local non-profit bike co-op near me, The Common Wheel, for teaching me to solve mechanical conundrums along the way. Now I'm gonna switch off this interactive TV internet thing that mostly attempts to sells me stuff I don't really need & go ride a bike instead.

A great post that gets to the heart of having a "relationship" with your bike.

I too have two thrift store touring bikes that I have built from the ground up, mostly with odd ball or sub optimal parts (according to some). But I love my bikes and know them inside and out (literally, I sprayed both with frame saver). One is a Raleigh steel mtb which I shouldn't love so much but do and the other is a lighter chromo mtb that has almost the same dimensions but is about 15lb's lighter. I have a C&V dept. store road bike (BayCrest Hurricane) that I over time sought out vintage parts for. I want to tour with it in the future but have to be somewhat selective in routes because it only has 6 speeds and I live in hilly country, though I may down grade to a sturmey archer 3 speed if I find one. . I'm always on the lookout for an appropriate carradice type bag for it and vintage bars that also offer reasonable hand positioning.

You can love a bike because you think it looks bling to others or you can love it because you have put a part of yourself into it.

Doug64 04-27-16 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by Happy Feet (Post 18723756)
You can love a bike because you think it looks bling to others or you can love it because you have put a part of yourself into it.

+1

That's why I have more than one bike. I build them up, and just have a hard time parting with them:).

IdahoTrollGuy 04-27-16 08:34 PM

I learn from my own experience, and I learn from others. For example, on a tour, I broke my cheap stock rear wheel. So, I did my homework and built a bombproof new wheelset that will rock my world. Also, I hosted a bunch of WarmShowers tourers coming through town, and saw Selle Anotomica -- wow, gotta get me one, and did. New rack. New handlebars. Little by little, I build MY bike, my way. You know what? it was really satisfying. That's why we do it. Also, when you are on tour, you ride all day, every day. When I race in a Cyclocross race, it is only for an hour. So I put my custom work and money on the tour bike, not on the racers. I'm too old to win anyway, but I still ride far! If you haven't caught the plague, keep riding, and you will. It's just money, afterall. Oh, and it gives you something to talk about with your bike pals.

Rowan 04-27-16 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by IdahoTrollGuy (Post 18724107)
I learn from my own experience, and I learn from others. For example, on a tour, I broke my cheap stock rear wheel. So, I did my homework and built a bombproof new wheelset that will rock my world. Also, I hosted a bunch of WarmShowers tourers coming through town, and saw Selle Anotomica -- wow, gotta get me one, and did. New rack. New handlebars. Little by little, I build MY bike, my way. You know what? it was really satisfying. That's why we do it. Also, when you are on tour, you ride all day, every day. When I race in a Cyclocross race, it is only for an hour. So I put my custom work and money on the tour bike, not on the racers. I'm too old to win anyway, but I still ride far! If you haven't caught the plague, keep riding, and you will. It's just money, afterall. Oh, and it gives you something to talk about with your bike pals.

I agree about the soul part, and said so recently somewhere here.

As to money, whatever it buys can last a long time... or not. Much better to spend it on a bike that will give lasting satisfaction than on a gambling bet, or a night at the pub. In my book, anyway.

IdahoTrollGuy 04-27-16 08:54 PM

Well said.

Miele Man 04-27-16 10:46 PM

http://www.bikeforums.net/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Happy Feethttp://www.bikeforums.net/images/but...post-right.pngYou can love a bike because you think it looks bling to others or you can love it because you have put a part of yourself into it.


Originally Posted by Doug64 (Post 18723840)
+1

That's why I have more than one bike. I build them up, and just have a hard time parting with them:).

You can love a bicycle because it has carried you to some interesting areas where you've had wonderful experiences and now have wonderful memories. A bicycle can be like a really dedicated friend and never let you down.

Cheers

DropBarFan 04-27-16 11:15 PM


Originally Posted by scroungetech (Post 18723237)
I try to stay as friendly & neutral as possible here, and have just one thought to add. One of the most knowledgeable bike shop owners & mechanics I've ever had the pleasure of dealing with, Larry Black at Mt Airy bikes in Maryland, who keeps about 2000 used bikes in stock at any one time, when faced with a bunch of my questions based on internet reading, summed it up like this. "Over-reading is just as bad as over-eating." In other words, develop your sense of bike-feel by going out and riding and _feeling_ the bike with senses that are more primal than the parts of your brain that read words on a screen. Then you'll know what works & what you might like to upgrade. This is why my Surly Troll is a stripped frame that hangs on a hook, and my early '90's lugged Schwinn High Plains is my preferred ride. Yeah, I got it at a flea mkt for $90, yeah the seat tube & bottom bracket were full of field corn & mouse droppings, yeah the paint is thrashed, yeah all my racks need p-clamps & hose clamps for mounting, and yeah I over-hauled it myself and replaced all the stock components with parts from my local bike co-op, bike swaps & 2nd hand on ebay. But I love how it feels & how it fits me better than any bike I've ever owned or test-ridden. I like it so much that when I found another one just like it on CL for $50 I bought it just to have a backup. I would've never figured this out unless I stopped reading & started riding. Mega-thanks to the local non-profit bike co-op near me, The Common Wheel, for teaching me to solve mechanical conundrums along the way. Now I'm gonna switch off this interactive TV internet thing that mostly attempts to sells me stuff I don't really need & go ride a bike instead.

Knew Larry Black way back from when he was active in the National Capital Velo club. Nice guy, & his bike shops are top-notch, stocks far more touring bikes/stuff than avg LBS. Only local shop that sold the SafeZone helmet mirror. Plus they sell/have info about many other niche bikes/equipment.

Happy Feet 04-27-16 11:20 PM


Originally Posted by Miele Man (Post 18724284)
http://www.bikeforums.net/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Happy Feethttp://www.bikeforums.net/images/but...post-right.pngYou can love a bike because you think it looks bling to others or you can love it because you have put a part of yourself into it.



You can love a bicycle because it has carried you to some interesting areas where you've had wonderful experiences and now have wonderful memories. A bicycle can be like a really dedicated friend and never let you down.

Cheers

I think that's why I like my Raleigh. It's sort of like this old friend I go touring with. Especially true because I mostly ride alone. I feel a little guilty taking my new gal out but I really wanted a lighter faster bike for my Prairie trip.


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