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Old 04-28-16, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by pataspen
I plan to start my ride to Argentina this weekend. While getting some immunizations the other day, the Doctor asked what my trip would cost. I told him I had no idea. I considered keeping track, much like you are planning, but realized that would be way too tedious on a trip which is supposed to be fun. I'm going to just look on my credit card statement when I get back in October. I'll add up all the credit card purchases, plus ATM withdrawls, and have a total cost.
That's a good idea. I'm sure I mentioned it but I opened a second bank account just for this trip. I found a bank that doesn't charge ATM fees. Therefore most of my purchases will be on my bank account minus anything I pay with cash.
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Originally Posted by pataspen
I plan to start my ride to Argentina this weekend. While getting some immunizations the other day, the Doctor asked what my trip would cost. I told him I had no idea. I considered keeping track, much like you are planning, but realized that would be way too tedious on a trip which is supposed to be fun. I'm going to just look on my credit card statement when I get back in October. I'll add up all the credit card purchases, plus ATM withdrawals, and have a total cost.
Enjoy the trip..Take pics for memories, Bag the receipts somewhere.
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Just another "no" here, chiming in with my confusion...


Originally Posted by Ty0604

Thanks Rowan. There was a group of people who were jealous (or whatever you call it) that I was given special permission to go through the park at a certain time. They've felt the need to troll me ever since. Even after I proved the documents were real.
ok, I just read through the linked threads in full. I don't post too often, and consider myself unbiased, with no horse in this race, etc... Just genuinely flabbergasted. I don't see you offer any conclusive proof, ever, while a great body of evidence exposes you as averse to truth-telling.

Did you ever take ownership of, apologize for, or even acknowledge your lies, after they were undeniably proven as such?
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Originally Posted by Hugh Morris
Did you ever take ownership of, apologize for, or even acknowledge your lies, after they were undeniably proven as such?
I didn't lie so no, I didn't, and I'm not going to, "...take ownership of, apologize for or even acknowledge..." what a few trolls thought were lies.

Nothing was "proven" either. I spoke with a few mods in PMs and sent copies of what I had on my end.
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Originally Posted by Ty0604
I didn't lie so no, I didn't, and I'm not going to, "...take ownership of, apologize for or even acknowledge..." what a few trolls thought were lies.

Nothing was "proven" either. I spoke with a few mods in PMs and sent copies of what I had on my end.
Sorry for being unclear but I wasn't just referring to the national park ordeal. You spun a web of lies about a 12lb bike (including posting a picture the original owner had taken and passed it off as yours) that was clearly disproven.

Did you ever address or even acknowledge those lies?
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Originally Posted by Hugh Morris
Sorry for being unclear but I wasn't just referring to the national park ordeal. You spun a web of lies about a 12lb bike (including posting a picture the original owner had taken and passed it off as yours) that was clearly disproven.

Did you ever address or even acknowledge those lies?
Neither of those were a lie. The photo in question was actually taken from my Facebook. It'd been posted there months before it'd been posted on Instagram by the user claiming it as their own. Therefore why all my photos are now private on Facebook. I wasn't on Instagram at the time and only joined in the past few weeks to post photos from my upcoming tour. I was also able to provide the receipt from when I purchased the bike.

Feel free to troll if you'd like but I'm done defending myself
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Originally Posted by Ty0604
Neither of those were a lie. The photo in question was actually taken from my Facebook. It'd been posted there months before it'd been posted on Instagram by the user claiming it as their own. Therefore why all my photos are now private on Facebook. I wasn't on Instagram at the time and only joined in the past few weeks to post photos from my upcoming tour. I was also able to provide the receipt from when I purchased the bike.

Feel free to troll if you'd like but I'm done defending myself
Receipt for a 12lb German Spin carbon fiber bike or for the UK Spin ti bike pictured?

You claim that the official UK based Spin borrowed your picture from your facebook without giving you credit; that's bold. If I get bored enough on this tour, I'll ask them via DM and see; if they did in fact build that ti bike for you (and you just happened to be mistaken about the material, and even the company that made it) and borrowed your picture, I'm sure they'll be upfront about it.
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Originally Posted by shibbyman23
A year of bicycle touring expenses by Shirine Taylor...

Here is the detailed breakdown from my last year on the road:

Flights
-855$ (San Diego to Delhi)
-200$ (For my bike to fly)

Visas
-0$ (USA)
-110$ (India- three months)
-280$ (Nepal- six months)
-90$ (India- three months)

Pacific Coast USA: 4.5$/day

-Food: 127$
-Lodging (more like tent space): 22$
-Bike maintenance: 0$
-Medical: 0$
-Other: 25$
(Bike mirror and pepper spray)

Total: 174$
Days: 38

India: 6.55$/day

-Food: 225$
-Lodging: 200$
-Bike maintenance: 15 cents
-Medical: 15$
-Transport: 110$
(High since I had expensive taxi and bus rides to get to Ladakh, my starting point)
-Essentials: 15$
(Maps, gas, ATM fees, passport photos, shampoo…)
-Nonessential: 50$
(Clothes, internet, nose piercing…)
-Permits: 22$

Total: 635$
Days: 97

Nepal: 4.43$/day

-Food: 368$
-Lodging: 216$
-Bike maintenance: 14$
-Medical: 3$
-Transport: 68$
-Essentials: 44$
(ATM fees, fix shoes, soap, toilet paper, shampoo…)
-Nonessentials: 39$
(Gifts, clothes, internet…)
-Permits: 32$

Total: 784$
Days: 177

India
-330$
(Though I haven’t finished my time in India, here is how much I have spent so far.)


Better?
Yeah, sure. The costs of biking India and Nepal are really helpful for someone planning to ride across North America.
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Originally Posted by Hugh Morris
Receipt for a 12lb German Spin carbon fiber bike or for the UK Spin ti bike pictured?

You claim that the official UK based Spin borrowed your picture from your facebook without giving you credit; that's bold. If I get bored enough on this tour, I'll ask them via DM and see; if they did in fact build that ti bike for you (and you just happened to be mistaken about the material, and even the company that made it) and borrowed your picture, I'm sure they'll be upfront about it.
The vigilantes saddled up another member who claims to have no horse in this race, but patently has!

I think the mods took the OP to task, suspended his membership for a while, now he is back posting and asking a question which so far has attracted negatives from your cohorts, yet who haven't actually posted anything remotely useful to the topic at hand.

I am sure if you all have on-going issues with previous threads, you can take it up with the OP or with the mods via PM rather than pushing the subject of this thread away from its original intent.
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Originally Posted by Rowan
The vigilantes saddled up another member who claims to have no horse in this race, but patently has!

I think the mods took the OP to task, suspended his membership for a while, now he is back posting and asking a question which so far has attracted negatives from your cohorts, yet who haven't actually posted anything remotely useful to the topic at hand.

I am sure if you all have on-going issues with previous threads, you can take it up with the OP or with the mods via PM rather than pushing the subject of this thread away from its original intent.
I think what people were doing by posting about past threads Ty has started is warn others that everything he says can be taken and should be taken with a grain of salt.

Once burned twice shy but in Ty's case he's lied about a number of things.

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Originally Posted by Rowan
Yeah, sure. The costs of biking India and Nepal are really helpful for someone planning to ride across North America.
That was my thought too....

Originally Posted by Rowan
The vigilantes saddled up another member who claims to have no horse in this race, but patently has!

I think the mods took the OP to task, suspended his membership for a while, now he is back posting and asking a question which so far has attracted negatives from your cohorts, yet who haven't actually posted anything remotely useful to the topic at hand.

I am sure if you all have on-going issues with previous threads, you can take it up with the OP or with the mods via PM rather than pushing the subject of this thread away from its original intent.
He's just a troll. No need to feed them any longer. I appreciate your support though!

Originally Posted by Miele Man
I think what people were doing by posting about past threads Ty has started is warn others that everything he says can be taken and should be taken with a grain of salt.

Once burned twice shy but in Ty's case he's lied about a number of things.

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Jealousy ≠ Lying. I haven't lied about anything.

Happy Trolling!
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Originally Posted by Rowan
The vigilantes saddled up another member who claims to have no horse in this race, but patently has!

I think the mods took the OP to task, suspended his membership for a while, now he is back posting and asking a question which so far has attracted negatives from your cohorts, yet who haven't actually posted anything remotely useful to the topic at hand.

I am sure if you all have on-going issues with previous threads, you can take it up with the OP or with the mods via PM rather than pushing the subject of this thread away from its original intent.
I have not been much interested in Ty0604's posts since the "Spin incident". I feel that people should be allowed to post and people can make up their own minds. However, now that Ty0604 claims that the picture of the Titanium Lightning X1 was actually stolen from his Facebook page and posted to the Instagram site of the guy who actually makes the Lightning X1 I must say something. Here is the email I exchanged with the person who took the picture and also made and once owned the bike Ty0604 claims to own.

Yes that bike in the photo is a Spin Industries titanium Lightning X-1. In fact it used to be my own personal bike and I remember taking that photo whilst I was out on a cold autumn ride a year or so ago. It now belongs to one of our customers who lives in Malaysia, so I expect that it enjoys much warmer miles these days.

Let me know if I can help get you onto one of our frames or perhaps a pair of wheels to get started with!

All the best
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and here is the bike in question and the Instagram feed of Spin Industries......

https://www.instagram.com/p/vTySEjPB...by=spinonthese

https://www.instagram.com/spinonthese/

Unfortunately Ty has chosen to Troll about a rare custom bike that is easy to identify and he has now accused the maker of the bike of stealing it's picture..........very shabby behavior. I would have stayed quiet if Ty had apologized so that the thread could stay on topic. However, the owner of Spin Industries Co. does not post here so I though I should at least defend him.

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Originally Posted by Rowan
The vigilantes saddled up another member who claims to have no horse in this race, but patently has!

I think the mods took the OP to task, suspended his membership for a while, now he is back posting and asking a question which so far has attracted negatives from your cohorts, yet who haven't actually posted anything remotely useful to the topic at hand.

I am sure if you all have on-going issues with previous threads, you can take it up with the OP or with the mods via PM rather than pushing the subject of this thread away from its original intent.
Rowan, I am not affiliated with any other forum members, period. I do, however, appreciate whoever linked the posts in the first page because forums are for learning. It does any forum an active disservice if lies are allowed to masqeraude as truth. I am not an expert on cycle touring, so I come here to learn. It's often hard to discern who has valuable perspective/experience/info and who has fast fingers.

Do you believe he bought that titanium bike, or the originally referenced german 12lb bike?

if not, why are you defending him?

Originally Posted by Ty0604
He's just a troll. No need to feed them any longer. I appreciate your support though!

Jealousy ≠ Lying. I haven't lied about anything.
EDIT: you said that there is a glare-obscured fuji logo in the photograph of the ti spin bicycle you claim to have taken. That is a blatant lie. Therefore, your repetitions of "I haven't lied about anything" are also lies.

Did you present a receipt for the german carbon fiber bike or the british titanium bike? And to whom did you present the receipt?

Stop writing me off as a 'troll'. I'm not affiliated with any other forum members, and the only thing I'm trolling for is the truth. Please answer the questions and don't defer to "don't feed the troll". That is a clear effort to avoid a very simple set of questions. The answers to those questions have value.

If you turn out to be telling the truth, I'll apologize thoroughly, both with words and a substantial donation to your charity ride.

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UGH, after reading this I have decided I am very new to the world of internet and naïve. I was super excited about hearing about a Spin Siebert & Schörner in the United States.

Please post a picture if you have one. You told me straight up in another thread yesterday, that you did.
https://www.bikeforums.net/general-cy...pinions-2.html

Now, here I have seen a link to a picture the OP posted. The OP's picture is not a german carbon fibre frame spin, but a Spin Industries titanium (as others have pointed out). The talk about the 12lb bike for Gunter Mai is a true Siebert & Schörner. Claiming his bike was custom made by the same people who made that bike is utterly ridiculous.

If the OP does have a true Spin Industries Titanium, that is awesome and a very nice bike. If it is a Siebert & Schörner carbon, please post pictures. Those are EXTREMELY rare and everyone would appreciate the bike porn. Just make sure you are in the picture when you take it for verification. As you said you wouldn't post any from your other bike trip because of your family being in it, I understand. However, your avatar is a picture of you (I am assuming) so posting a picture with you in it seems OK.

Sorry for the thread jack, but I literally am a bike tech enthusiast, and a Siebert & Schörner carbon bike is something I would like to see in my lifetime.

But, to answer the poll question, if you are already going to do a tour thread, just put the total cost spreadsheet in their when done.
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UGH, after reading this I have decided I am very new to the world of internet and naïve. I was super excited about hearing about a Spin Siebert & Schörner in the United States.
You've been a BF member since 2003, so a lot longer than most. Anyhow, this stuff is far from new. Been going on since time immemorial. Just in a slicker package, but the contents are the same...BS.
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Originally Posted by Hugh Morris
Rowan, I am not affiliated with any other forum members, period. I do, however, appreciate whoever linked the posts in the first page because forums are for learning. It does any forum an active disservice if lies are allowed to masqeraude as truth. I am not an expert on cycle touring, so I come here to learn. It's often hard to discern who has valuable perspective/experience/info and who has fast fingers.

Do you believe he bought that titanium bike, or the originally referenced german 12lb bike?
I don't really care what happened in other threads and the he-said/they said scenarios. The guy started a thread here asking whether it would be worthwhile posting a listing of the daily costs of riding across America. Judging from the threads that inevitably start each season about tour costs (most of them based in the US), I think it would be a great idea for it to become a thread.

Whether the OP follows through with it is another matter. But for the purpose of this thread, I am supportive of the idea, and have expressed so.

What concerns me is that there is a self-appointed group of vigilantes (another name for bullies) who want to pick apart certain posters here and hound them off the forum. You are engaging in the same behaviour, hijacking the thread away from its original intent, referencing previous threads (which, if I am not mistaken, is against BF protocols, anyway), and behaving like a solo vigilante, if not a member of the other group.

Really, if they or you think someone hasn't got the credentials to post here, simply ignore the threads, and maybe even start some of their or your own. Let's say, about some touring experiences, or gear reviews, or destinations, or motivations.

Apart from that, have a nice day... riding your bike, hopefully.
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Originally Posted by Rowan
I don't really care what happened in other threads and the he-said/they said scenarios. The guy started a thread here asking whether it would be worthwhile posting a listing of the daily costs of riding across America. Judging from the threads that inevitably start each season about tour costs (most of them based in the US), I think it would be a great idea for it to become a thread.

Whether the OP follows through with it is another matter. But for the purpose of this thread, I am supportive of the idea, and have expressed so.

What concerns me is that there is a self-appointed group of vigilantes (another name for bullies) who want to pick apart certain posters here and hound them off the forum. You are engaging in the same behaviour, hijacking the thread away from its original intent, referencing previous threads (which, if I am not mistaken, is against BF protocols, anyway), and behaving like a solo vigilante, if not a member of the other group.

Really, if they or you think someone hasn't got the credentials to post here, simply ignore the threads, and maybe even start some of their or your own. Let's say, about some touring experiences, or gear reviews, or destinations, or motivations.

Apart from that, have a nice day... riding your bike, hopefully.
rowan, you DON'T seem to understand. the OP has a long history of lies in threads he posts. We are only warning others to takey everything the OP posts with a grain of salt because it's most likely based on previous threads/claims that the guy will again be lying through his teeth. Someone without experience could read the OPs's claims and then try to do something similar based on those false claims. Warning people about a compulsive liar is no different than warning about some poisonous plant.

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Originally Posted by Rowan

Really, if they or you think someone hasn't got the credentials to post here, simply ignore the threads, and maybe even start some of their or your own. Let's say, about some touring experiences, or gear reviews, or destinations, or motivations.
I would usually agree with these sentiments, but when Ty claims to have taken a picture of a Spin Industries Lightning X-1 that I have confirmed (by email) was taken by the owner of Spin Industries, something must be said. Fantasizing is strange. but maybe not worrying, but making false claims that involve people that do not post here is plain wrong and should not be ignored. I'm a bit sad as Ty's Fuji set up looks good and if he is doing his cross country trip it would be excellent and could produce some interesting posts. If Ty would own up to his lies and apologize to the owner of Spin Industries I would happily read his posts.
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Originally Posted by Rowan
I don't really care what happened in other threads and the he-said/they said scenarios. The guy started a thread here asking whether it would be worthwhile posting a listing of the daily costs of riding across America.

What concerns me is that there is a self-appointed group of vigilantes (another name for bullies) who want to pick apart certain posters here and hound them off the forum. You are engaging in the same behaviour, hijacking the thread away from its original intent, referencing previous threads (which, if I am not mistaken, is against BF protocols, anyway), and behaving like a solo vigilante, if not a member of the other group.

Really, if they or you think someone hasn't got the credentials to post here, simply ignore the threads, and maybe even start some of their or your own. Let's say, about some touring experiences, or gear reviews, or destinations, or motivations.

Apart from that, have a nice day... riding your bike, hopefully.
I don't understand how you aren't concerned by libel or forgery on the forum, but are very concerned with and offer opposition to individuals who point it out. If Ty was ever reprimanded by the moderators, it was clearly not effective as a long term solution. And honestly, the community is just looking out for itself, as Miele Man illustrates nicely.

Unfortunately, no cycling for a few more days; on a different type of tour, with far too much time spent speeding along sedentary in motor vehicles. That's honestly how I got here, down this rabbit hole, in the first place. I derive much more pleasure from camping off my bike than writing about it, but maybe I'll put together a trip report for one of my short spring jaunts.

My interest in the thread's subject matter is genuine; I would want to read an itemized list of expenses from a cross country tour. I would not want to read a falsified ledger (who would?). That's why I find value in sussing this out.
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Originally Posted by Rowan
I don't really care what happened in other threads and the he-said/they said scenarios. The guy started a thread here asking whether it would be worthwhile posting a listing of the daily costs of riding across America. Judging from the threads that inevitably start each season about tour costs (most of them based in the US), I think it would be a great idea for it to become a thread.

Whether the OP follows through with it is another matter. But for the purpose of this thread, I am supportive of the idea, and have expressed so.

What concerns me is that there is a self-appointed group of vigilantes (another name for bullies) who want to pick apart certain posters here and hound them off the forum. You are engaging in the same behaviour, hijacking the thread away from its original intent, referencing previous threads (which, if I am not mistaken, is against BF protocols, anyway), and behaving like a solo vigilante, if not a member of the other group.

Really, if they or you think someone hasn't got the credentials to post here, simply ignore the threads, and maybe even start some of their or your own. Let's say, about some touring experiences, or gear reviews, or destinations, or motivations.

Apart from that, have a nice day... riding your bike, hopefully.
I skimmed through the threads that have been linked to, as well, and while I do tend to agree with you that it's better to let things like this alone, I would point out that the OP here is creating lots of threads and posts, all signed with links to his fundraising blog. Presumably the effort to gather attention is related to the fact that he's also aiming to gather funds.

Ostensibly, donations made at this link will go to cancer research. However, given that the guy has a track record of telling bizarre lies, I wouldn't feel too good about giving money, nor sure that the money would be going to charity. I imagine others would feel the same way.

So while you're certainly right that people could stand to lighten up and step back from this tempest in a teacup, there is value in pointing out people who come to forums with collection bowl in hand but whose record of honesty is not exactly stellar!
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