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Old 08-23-16, 12:48 PM
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bike stands bad news

now that i think of it, how many of u guys use a touring stand the 2 legged type fitted under bottom bracket.
reason i ask i serviced a fairly new Dawes ultra galaxy tourer last week for a friend ,he had one fitted , i took it off and binned it after i seen the damage it done to a lovely frame, so be warned folks there bad news buy a click stand if you really need your bike to stand up or find a solid object like a wall hedge tree anything bar one of those bloody things.
just saying.
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No biggie for me. I hadn't had a kickstand on any of my bikes for 50 years.
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Old 08-23-16, 02:31 PM
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I already thought kickstands were more trouble than they're worth.
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when i removed it the tubes were slightly bent all the paint was gone loads rust showing ,but i think i got to it in time .
besides the thing weighed about 2lb.
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I have a soma saga that sensibly has a kickstand plate welded to the chain stays. Works perfectly well.
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I used one that clamped to the rear triangle. Worked perfectly. Not really worried about 2# on a 50# loaded bike, and it was really nice being able to leave a bike standing up when digging through the panniers.

Good luck finding a place to actually lean your bike in the Netherlands, and it seems rather inappropriate just to leave it lying on its side in walkway in a city square.
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A friend of mine had one of those two legged types, the bolt corroded onto it and then it got a bit loose so he could not tighten it. He cut it off with a hacksaw. He saw the Greenfield type I have on my bike that attaches on the rear seatstay and chainstay and bought one like mine.

I do not trust those two legged ones for touring, they put one wheel up in the air and with panniers front and rear, the frame is not designed for that kind of stress on the frame. Surly will void a warranty if a kickstand is used.

You can't talk me out of a kickstand like mine, I am sold on it.
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Originally Posted by robert schlatte
I have a soma saga that sensibly has a kickstand plate welded to the chain stays. Works perfectly well.
i still would not trust it but it's your bike.
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Originally Posted by Tourist in MSN
A friend of mine had one of those two legged types, the bolt corroded onto it and then it got a bit loose so he could not tighten it. He cut it off with a hacksaw. He saw the Greenfield type I have on my bike that attaches on the rear seatstay and chainstay and bought one like mine.

I do not trust those two legged ones for touring, they put one wheel up in the air and with panniers front and rear, the frame is not designed for that kind of stress on the frame. Surly will void a warranty if a kickstand is used.

You can't talk me out of a kickstand like mine, I am sold on it.
So does Thorn i had 2 thorn bike would not let a kickstand anywhere near them.yours look a bit better but click stand wouldbe safer.imho.
lovely looking nomad.
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Originally Posted by antokelly
So does Thorn i had 2 thorn bike would not let a kickstand anywhere near them.yours look a bit better but click stand wouldbe safer.imho.
lovely looking nomad.
Thorn will also void a warranty if a kickstand is used and was the cause of the problem. My Nomad frame is so robust that I am not worried about it. I am sure that the Rohloff puts more stress on the frame than the kickstand does.
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Originally Posted by Tourist in MSN
Thorn will also void a warranty if a kickstand is used and was the cause of the problem. My Nomad frame is so robust that I am not worried about it. I am sure that the Rohloff puts more stress on the frame than the kickstand does.
probably, hell of a bike the Thorn Nomad friend of mine toured the world few years ago on one.
he used to be on the thorn forum, (as i did) lol
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We have gone over this so many times before, it's like Groundhogs day

So, like super light frames for touring ? lay the bike on the ground when there are no trees.


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In the past a Bene Sug was offered that made sense ..

Pull the BB , stuff a cork into each chainstay , then fill the tube under where the KS will go, with Epoxy Putty.

the chainstay tube will become Un Crushable.




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I have a greenfield type as well. No problems and I don't need to lay my bike on its side when I stop along the road to take pictures.
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dont believe it bob sorry, if it's man made it can break.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
We have gone over this so many times before, it's like Groundhogs day
Anytime now someone will come along and say they never found a kickstand that didn't let the bike fall over...
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
We have gone over this so many times before, it's like Groundhogs day
Anytime now someone will come along and say they never found a kickstand that didn't let the bike fall over...


Because it's like Groundhogs day!
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Kickstands and Fenders: Chunks of metal and plastic placed near the wheels for imminent failure.
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Get a new kickstand and maybe for road bikes, the 50 year old peaked fenders I painted and custom striped for my Schwinn Cruiser SS were worth it.
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Originally Posted by antokelly
So does Thorn i had 2 thorn bike would not let a kickstand anywhere near them.yours look a bit better but click stand wouldbe safer.imho.
lovely looking nomad.
If I can't trust a kickstand, why would I trust something that works on the exact same principal, but which isn't conveniently attached to the frame where I can just kick it down and be done with it, rather forcing me to dig around in a bag to find it and set it up?

Trust me, when you are looking for bike parking in a place like this, lying your bike down is not an option and that clickstand is gonna get knocked over, it si great to have the kickstand option:
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Originally Posted by jefnvk
If I can't trust a kickstand, why would I trust something that works on the exact same principal, but which isn't conveniently attached to the frame where I can just kick it down and be done with it, rather forcing me to dig around in a bag to find it and set it up?

Trust me, when you are looking for bike parking in a place like this, lying your bike down is not an option and that clickstand is gonna get knocked over, it si great to have the kickstand option:
Just lean it!
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Originally Posted by mdilthey
Just lean it!
I did. On the kickstand

But seriously, city after city of congestion like that, we just got to the point where whererever we parked we just faced them in opposite directions side by side, with the kickstands in, and chained them to one another. Even if you could find a wall to lean them up against, you were always likely to find someone else leaned their bike on yours!
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If ya'll are so worried about kickstands why not get a tricycle...Boom promblem solv-ed. To those who don't worry about kickstands good, don't start now. Bikes don't need kickstands or plastic spoke protectors, they just need common sense owners who treat them with care and properly maintain them.
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I have a Hebie Bipod 605 NL on my Surly Long Haul Trucker and given that the bike has done over 14,000 km now with the stand I am not too concerned. Each to their own of course but I don't plan to stop using it in the foreseeable future. Way to convenient for me.

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