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Old 09-03-16, 07:21 AM
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Ortlieb 70L BackRoller Pro Classic/Plus in yellow soon?

Hi there,

I'm in the market for the 70L Ortlieb BackRoller Pro Classic/Plus but I prefer the color yellow which is not available, I guess the options being red or black.

Any info if Ortlieb might bring in more colors next year, of course with Yellow included?
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Bene Sugg: ask the company on the telephone? (Given: you are both in Germany)

Seems Back Roller Yellow is a popular color bought by Cyclists touring through Here, this past year..


Hi Viz is offered in yellow/black https://www.ortlieb.com/en/Back-Roll...%20Visibility/





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I had never heard of 70 liter panniers and thought it was a typo, but I did a quick google search to check. Wow, those are huge.
https://ortliebusa.com/product/back-roller-pro-plus-3/
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I had never heard of 70 liter panniers and thought it was a typo
At one time I had a pair of Axiom Champlains that were 65 litters for the pair and they were too large IMO. It was too tempting to bring the kitchen sink with you which really created an imbalance in bike handling >>>due only to my lack of discipline and not due to the design of the bag itself mind you
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At one time I had a pair of Axiom Champlains that were 65 litters for the pair and they were too large IMO. It was too tempting to bring the kitchen sink with you which really created an imbalance in bike handling >>>due only to my lack of discipline and not due to the design of the bag itself mind you
I use the standard Ortlieb backrollers (rated at 40 liters) but I bought a pair of the Carradice Carradry panniers to use on a trip where I needed more pannier capacity because I did not want to use a front rack on that trip. The Carradry were rated at 56 liters, but when I got them and tried to pack stuff in them I concluded that they can't be over maybe 48 liters. That really perturbed me because I only gained about 8 liters which was not really worth buying another pair of panniers. But returning them to a foreign seller would have been a hassle and the price was not bad so I kept them. Altura also makes some large panniers that I considered before I bought the Carradry.
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I wasn't aware that they made 70L total versions. I certainly agree that given how heavy a pair of 40l can get if you pack lots of stuff, it would be pretty easy for folks starting out touring going rear panniers only to put a shedload of stuff in them.
I guess for bulky, lighter items they would work well, but a very solid rack and rear wheel setup would really be best for the overloading aspect.

oh well, another option of panniers to choose from. Will be interesting to see if they stick around, ie, get bought enough over the years.
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I can't imagine carrying over about 30 lb of stuff, even in cold weather. Try for less. 40 L of panniers, front and rear together should be enough. It's not car camping.
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I kind of like them, found the comparison page which shows:

Back Roller Pro: 45cm/17.7" high, 36cm/14" wide top, 24cm/9.4" wide bottom, 26cm/10.23" deep

Back Roller Classic: 42cm/16.5" high, 32cm/12.6" wide top, 23cm/9.1" wide bottom, 17cm/6.7" deep

So about an inch taller, about an 1" to 1.5" wider, and about 3.5" deeper. So these would make the bike about 7" wider overall on the bike. I guess I'd have to see both options in person though, but I can see these larger ones being handy for light weight stuff that takes up room. Plus these would give a little extra space for items that diminish during a section of a trip such as water or various fresh foods or breads that one might need or want locally.
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I can't imagine carrying over about 30 lb of stuff, even in cold weather. Try for less. 40 L of panniers, front and rear together should be enough. It's not car camping.
What is your typical gear weight?
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I kinda like them. Two bags in which everthing fits. I'd have no other bags attached --> ALL gear & supplies easily popped off and carried or cached. You wouldn't have to fill the roll-ups but you could when you needed to.
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Got an update. Called Ortlieb and spoke to a rep. Colours for the 70L will remain the same next year as well.
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Got an update. Called Ortlieb and spoke to a rep. Colours for the 70L will remain the same next year as well.
Bizarre they won't give their customers the colour they most want.
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Fortunately if you place your attention to the natural Beauty and Historic sites you are touring to see,

what color your bags are really wont matter ..

Photo shop in a different color in your pictures If You Want.
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Fortunately if you place your attention to the natural Beauty and Historic sites you are touring to see,

what color your bags are really wont matter ..

Photo shop in a different color in your pictures If You Want.

You seem to have problems differentiating between the real world and the online world.
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Yellow is best for safety. 70 L is big but for loaded 2-rack/4-pannier bike camping why not? Dense stuff goes on front low-riders, sleeping bag etc goes in back panniers w/o needing to lash items onto top of rack(s). The Ortlieb description is kinda funny, mentioning ability to take three pairs of shoes.
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The colour of your panniers will not affect whether you are noticed of not.
There is plenty of research online if you google it but the best example of selective attention is this video

We tour on a tandem and use Back roller plus panniers for the two of us when we are credit card touring. When we are camping we add Sportpacker Plus bags for cooking gear, food and a Rack Bag for tent, Therma-rests etc
If you need 70L perhaps you need to revise your packing list

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15 passes, one Sasquatch, and 70 liter bags please. I might go with black bags because black is slimming.
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The colour of your panniers will not affect whether you are noticed of not.
There is plenty of research online if you google it but the best example of selective attention is this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo

We tour on a tandem and use Back roller plus panniers for the two of us when we are credit card touring. When we are camping we add Sportpacker Plus bags for cooking gear, food and a Rack Bag for tent, Therma-rests etc
If you need 70L perhaps you need to revise your packing list
All road workers wear hi-viz vests. The video you refer is quite another situation than bike/rider visibility. Unfortunately Ortlieb panniers aren't designed for max visibility: front/back sections are usually black or muted version of side color. In the US avg motorist is texting while sitting behind a dark smudged windshield, any hi-viz clothing/gear has to help.

Haven't done ultra-heavy touring but in 70's/80's one would see articles/photos about long-distance tourers with massive heaps of stuff. Nowadays there's lighter equipment & better communications/infrastructure so for many less need to carry heavy luggage. OTOH folks might want to take bulky photo equipment, a pair of hiking boots, maybe even a suit to get into swank Euro restaurants?
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Yeah, I never understood why Ortlieb makes the front and backs of their bags in black. We have both red and yellow sets of Ortliebs, and while I generally like the visibility, it's mostly only from the side. Last month we used a yellow Ortlieb dry sack on the rack top/top of rear panniers for the first time, and I think helped visibility a bit since it was sitting up high and was a big expanse of yellow (see photo below).

Having toured a good bit in Europe, especially Germany and Austria, you'd be amazed what many people bring along. I stayed in a hostel in Melk, Austria, once, sharing a room with three 50-ish German guys. Their bags were huge, and I saw them unpack nice dress shoes, slacks, and sport coats. I asked why they had them, and they replied they were going to the opera in Vienna when they got there.

On our recent tour, we often felt very under-dressed in the off-bike clothes we brought along (travel pants, synthetic shirt, and multipurpose hiking shoes), since the sartorial standard for bike tourists is very high off the bike at the end of the day! Of course, 70% of them now seem to be using e-bikes, so I guess that explains things...
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The visibility is diminished when you get mud on the panniers and the dry bag on top.
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+1^

The yellow shows up pretty good.




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The visibility is diminished when you get mud on the panniers and the dry bag on top.
fenders??
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beat me to it there Doug!
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fenders??
That was the only tour I did without fenders. Packing the bike in the S&S case, did not quite have room for fenders. Lesson learned, do something different next time.
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That was the only tour I did without fenders. Packing the bike in the S&S case, did not quite have room for fenders. Lesson learned, do something different next time.
Fenders can be tough to fit in S&S case, I'm not sure how folks do it esp with bigger touring bikes. Easiest is if one is taking 2nd checked bag. Perhaps cut fenders in half & use something like ReachAround fender bracket?

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