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Old 09-23-16, 03:17 PM
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Silk road

The bug might have bitten... Considering a trip on the Silk Road. Four years from now. (yeah, I know

Our circumstances (time, kids) are such that an Istanbul (or Venice) to, say, Macau, bike expedition is out of the question, at least for now. So it would be more like a summer-long (school holidays) tour involving bikes and trains.

We are terminally allergic to organized touring.

I'd appreciate inputs to determine a general itinerary (Samarkand is a must, Urumqi is high on the list). And, maybe more importantly, tips about train/buses/planes connecting highlights that are separated by uninteresting space.

Basically -- how to organize a 2-month long self-supported bike trip across central Asia?
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Old 09-24-16, 05:13 AM
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The bug might have bitten... ...bike expedition is out of the question, at least for now. So it would be more like a summer-long (school holidays)....2-month long self-supported bike trip across central Asia?
i'm guessing you mean next summer? for ease of planning, you might consider southeast asia.
food and lodging are cheap and plentiful, visas require essentially no planning, and usually
available at the land border crossings. (some myanmar crossing allow travel to interior)

(thailand=voa waiver, cambodia-laos-singapore-malaysia=VOA, vietnam-myanmar=internet pre-arrange visa)

can travel lighter, no need for camping or cooking equipment or cold weather gear.

if you and family's first trip here, there won't be any uninteresting parts. of course you could prove
me wrong, and then take advantage of the bike-friendly rail/boat/bus services.

could see and do an awful lot over the course of two months, either as a loop or point-to-point tour.

depending on how you're affected by heat, you could choose a loop taking in cambodia, southern
laos, eastern thailand. for cooler temperatures, northern laos, northern thailand, myanmar.
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i'm guessing you mean next summer?
Actually, years away. Probably 4. Our youngest will be 10 by that time, and hopefully strong enough to ride this kind of itinerary.

I appreciate your suggestion about South East Asia. Could be something to do in the meantime.

For now I am reading CGOAB travelogues and have a couple of books that should help us define "our" silk road.
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When I was in Istanbul during my world tour, I remember asking myself, "How do I get to India and beyond while traversing these romantic and dangerous places in between?"

To me the silk road (in contrast to the silk routes, which are numerous) is the one referred to in Kiplings' KIM, that would go from Lahore in what is now Pakistan, into India along the ganges thru Lucknow and all that. When I was on my trip I followed this silk road in many places. There is now a road for cars/trucks; and adjacent to it a road for animal drawn vehicles like waggons (sic) and such; and then a third path adjacent to that for walkers and locals. All along the way you will find paraos, sort of a rest stop with a place that serves food, a place where your can wash up and your clothes in a big well; and rope beds where you can sleep the night.

India was my favorite country for cycling (Mexico was a close 2nd).
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Very interesting. Will look into it. Would you happen to have a travelogue or something resembling a map?

What time of the year did you ride? Looks like a very hot area...
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You may want to plan sectors .. and realize the 2 months wont get you the whole way, but you can always return ,
and do another sector next year taking up where You Left off..

It is how people have walked the length Of the Camino de Santiago de Compostela Pilgrim's route

which has starts as far away From Galicia, as a Monastery in Moray Shire in the Scottish Highlands.





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You may want to plan sectors
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yes yes, this is precisely what we have in mind. Begs the question of which segments. Logistics and climate are significant considerations.
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Very interesting. Will look into it. Would you happen to have a travelogue or something resembling a map?

What time of the year did you ride? Looks like a very hot area...
I have a travelogue at Roughstuffs' World Cycling Network with a big load of photos..it is a very old website largely in traditional story+photo mode. I entered Pakistan in early November and India just after Christmas; I stayed in India till mid February. IT was obviously very chilly in the mountain regions ( got up to Sost, the gated point on the Karakoram highway before you begin the final climb to China) and in India I went north of Simla and turned back as soon as the snow became too frequent on the roadside.
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