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Old 10-20-16, 04:26 AM
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Nashbar TR1 touring bike has a 1" neck?

Appears to be so from their specs....



Nashbar TR1 Touring Bike

I was wondering if there is a story behind that, as in is this an earlier frame design from a mainstream company merely rebadged as Nashbar?

I'm not in the market for a bike, just idle curiosity is all.

Hopefully my worked-over ridden-daily '89 Voyageur will outlast me, and the 1" Chris King headset was a worthwhile investment, but if there's one feature I would change if I could, it would be a wider/stronger neck.

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Old 10-20-16, 06:37 AM
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That is interesting. Have you ever seen or heard of a head tube failure? I've seen the frame joints go first. But in this case I think the 1" quill would be the weak link.
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Old 10-20-16, 06:39 AM
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Prior to 2012, the Fuju Touring had a 1" quill stem. The Windsor Tourist(bikes direct) still uses a 1" quill stem.

The only thing I can think of is that its cheaper for some reason to continue to use 1" headtube, quill stem, and threaded fork. Not sure why thats cheaper than a 1 1/8" tube, threadless stem, and threadless fork.


What I chuckled at a couple years ago when Nashbar had a steel touring frame was that they also sold a 1" touring fork in cromoly, but the fork that comes on their TR1 is hiten. You couldnt buy the hiten fork individually(as why would you at their pricing).




I do love the adjustability of threaded setups, but the ability to swap out stems without taking apart the cockpit is a huge plus for threadless stems.
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Old 10-20-16, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by andrewclaus View Post
That is interesting. Have you ever seen or heard of a head tube failure? I've seen the frame joints go first. But in this case I think the 1" quill would be the weak link.
I have 2 touring bikes with 1" quill stems and 1 road bike with a 1" quill stem. Well, one of the touring bikes and the road bike currently have threadless quill converters so I can run threadless stems, but they are still 1" quill stems in the end.

I am not small in stature. One of the stems has noticeable flex, but it doesnt bother me. The other two dont have noticable flex. One of the stems is 36years old and feels perfectly safe.
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Old 10-20-16, 06:50 AM
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Quill stem from Nashbar

I have a Windsor tourist that comes with a quill stem. It did feel a bit flexy, but I changed it out for a nashbar wuill stem which is not only lighter but also stiffer.
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Old 10-20-16, 07:28 AM
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$640 for the bike? I may have a candidate for a new bike, if I ever decide the C&V thing isn't working out!
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Originally Posted by andrewclaus View Post
That is interesting. Have you ever seen or heard of a head tube failure? I've seen the frame joints go first. But in this case I think the 1" quill would be the weak link.
Its not the tube that worries me, rather the durability of the headset.
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Originally Posted by jefnvk View Post
$640 for the bike? I may have a candidate for a new bike, if I ever decide the C&V thing isn't working out!
Its a good deal at 25% off. A bad deal at full price, but Nashbar hasnt done their full listed price on anything in probably decades.

For a relatively small price increase, the Fuji Touring is a significantly better build. Threadless 1 1/8 fork, much better gearing, higher quality crank, higher quality hubs, cromoly fork instead of hiten.
Fuji Touring Road Bike -- 2017

Either way, they are a couple of solid entry level touring bikes. Really good bang for the buck.
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Old 10-20-16, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Sharpshin View Post
...I was wondering if there is a story behind that, as in is this an earlier frame design....
1" quill, 5-arm cranks, cantilever breaks..............just closeout stock.......from 1987.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
Its a good deal at 25% off. A bad deal at full price, but Nashbar hasnt done their full listed price on anything in probably decades.
I doubt most stores have done list price in decades

Fuji has also been at the back of my mind, since I saw one sitting at Performance. Just haven't yet hit the point that I feel there is an advantage upgrading anything from C&V to new!
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Nashbar is All Rebadged stuff, they placed a big enough order and their source Companies put the Logo on.

Performance Bike Corp. Bought out the company Arni Nashbar started..



Perhaps Mike would like a 1" quill conversion to 1.125" threadless stems. the Open Face plate threadless stems do have advantages for Touring
And taking Trips that require you Putting the Bike back in a carton to ship it with you by air, or for you by truck.




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Old 10-20-16, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jefnvk View Post
i doubt most stores have done list price in decades

fuji has also been at the back of my mind, since i saw one sitting at performance. Just haven't yet hit the point that i feel there is an advantage upgrading anything from c&v to new!
c&v?
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Originally Posted by Sharpshin View Post
c&v?
Classic and Vintage
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Old 10-20-16, 11:50 AM
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Its Own Section of BF.. Classic & Vintage - Bike Forums
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Originally Posted by Sharpshin View Post
Its not the tube that worries me, rather the durability of the headset.
Buy an IRD roller-bearing headset, then.

Realistically, there's not much to worry about. The headset will inevitably wear out, being a cheap part on and inexpensive bike (hey, they have to make up the money somewhere...), and when it does, you can replace it with something better. The above mentioned headset is one of the best, and quite durable.
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CK will always be able to Rebuild your headset , by shipping it to Portland..
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Yep, 1" neck and I'm a honeybadger. I don't care.

What bugs me is that I picked up one of these bikes on a manager's 50% off special at Performance Bike last Christmas.
I paid $250.
I don't know how I am able to sleep at night.
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Amazing how all those old timers managed to survive with 1" quill stems. I'm still riding a 1978 and 1972 frame with quill stem but I have a death wish....
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I inch is just fine, you may have bad parts in there but the sizing is just fine. The larger bearing was for MTBs that often used larger diameter tubing and Al. The same stuff moved into the rest of the market, but not because there was a problem with 1" unless you are taking drops onto your bike while touring.

When I got into frame building, I decided to just buy the reamers for 1.125. For some odd reason the box had 1" in it also, but that is a micro version of the thinking that goes into this stuff. Who wants to warehouse parts and all the rest for several system when one doesn't need them.

As to why they would have this product now. There are people who want 1" and it probably overlaps pretty well with the demographic of the touring market. Why one would want such a rig. One thing is the frame they used to sell was an MTB 29 with touring paint, basically. This bike might have touring geometry, who knows.
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