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Old 12-23-16, 01:30 PM
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I tour on a setup weighing ~28lbs (Bike, bags and gear!)

Hola.

Started bike touring a few years back. Had no clue what I was doing. Took way too much stuff.

Decided next bike trip I wanted to carry less things. Felt the same way the next time, the time after that etc.

Its become a hobby of mine in itself. Seeing what I can shave from my kit while still being comfortable, finding lighter & better gear to replace what I've got, etc.

I find a lighter bike more fun to ride. I enjoy going long distances too, so it makes that easier.

Here is a picture of my latest rig. I used this to tour last month (November) through the Virginias mostly. Temps dipped just below freezing. I was comfy.



That's a ?2015? Trek Emonda SL6. Carbon frame / fork. Stock except for the bar tape and GPS4000's (25mm).

I'm using Revelate frame bags. Here's what I carried in each of them:

Revelate Viscacha

- Sleeping bag (Marmot nanowave 45)
- Air pad (Nemo Tensor small)
- Air pillow (Cacoon I think? 2.5 oz)
- Bivy (Chinook ascent, kinda cheap but it worked well)
- Thick wool hiking socks (For sleeping in mostly)
- Wool gloves (Sleeping / putzing around camp)
- Thermal tights (Regular tights, not cycling specific)
- Thermal top
- Spare riding socks

Revelate Tangle

- 2.5L hydration bladder
- High end smart phone (maps, camera, music)
- 12000 mah battery + 4x USB cables (2 mini 2 micro)
- Outlet to 4x USB port adapter
- Quick charger for my phone (Awesome being able to get 50% charge in 15 minutes)
- Wallet
- Keys
- Nitecore TIP (Camp light / emergency head light)
- Chapstick
- Fingerless & full finger cycling gloves
- balaclava
- headband
- beanie
- Mini pump
- Repair kit (multitool, lube, patches, tube, tape)
- Pocket knife (Spyderco Tasman Salt)
- Gaiters

Revelate Jerrycan

- Food
- Hygiene kit

And on the bike itself:

- Bluetooth speaker
- Go Pro Session
- Cygolite Metro 750
- Axiom pulse 60 x2
- 1 bottle cage that usually held my rain pants
- Twisty tie thing to secure my hydration bladder tube


I also had cycling pants, a canari everest, athletic long sleeve top, short sleeve cycling jersey, and high viz helmet that I was always wearing, along with whatever gloves / headwear was suitable at the moment.


I think that's everything. Going from memory.

It was a super fun setup. The weight in my bags was balanced nicely, with the bulk of it sitting in the frames main triangle. I had a blast descending on this bike....its a very fine ride.

If you're interested I have videos I can share from the most recent tour I used the Emonda for.

Any questions? Shoot!
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I'd like to show you my ~28lb touring rig!

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Nice set up! Yours is on the lighter side of things I've seen and shows what can be done with just a bit of thought. My cross-country set up is a bit heavier at 37lbs for bike, bags and gear, but as I took a single walled tent, cooking gear and a change of clothes and used a traditional Carradice saddlebag and an Ortlieb handlebar bag
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Well done! My touring bike alone weighs 29lbs! My other bike weighs a nice, light 24lbs so I should try an ultralight tour again... I am definitely on board for ultralight packing as a principle, but in practice, I put too much of a premium on durability.

I use my camping equpment a lot (50-100+ nights a year) so I generally tend to ruin ultralight stuff...
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Originally Posted by nun
Nice set up! Yours is on the lighter side of things I've seen and shows what can be done with just a bit of thought. My cross-country set up is a bit heavier at 37lbs for bike, bags and gear, but as I took a single walled tent, cooking gear and a change of clothes and used a traditional Carradice saddlebag and an Ortlieb handlebar bag
37lbs is still awfully light! Got any photos of your setup?
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Light touring is fun if you like a minimalist style, and I do.

I have gone with about the same gear weight for a winter Southern Tier (cooking gear included) but my bike was a lot heavier (24 pounds vs what about 16 pounds for yours). So my overall weight was a good bit more. For summer trips I can go a little lighter if I want though.

FWIW, I would be curious to see weights in your itemized list.
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love to see the videos fantastic set up for sure.
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Originally Posted by sexy cyclist
37lbs is still awfully light! Got any photos of your setup?
Yes, if you look around you will see plenty of other people's lightweight set ups too.



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Nice ride.

After getting slammed on some hill climbs last year, my goal is to lighten the load next year.
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
Nice ride.

After getting slammed on some hill climbs last year, my goal is to lighten the load next year.
Convenience and riding in the mountains was why I went lightweight. I find I can easily travel with my set up as my gear qualifies as carry on luggage in planes and trains. It also makes climbing mountains a lot easier given that I am not the strongest of riders and I don't feel I've compromised on comfort at all.
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Originally Posted by nun
Yes, if you look around you will see plenty of other people's lightweight set ups too.

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I like this set up. How many liters capacity of storage do you have been the handlebar and seat bag? Right around a bit over 30 I guess; the Orlieb has 7, the carradice 24. That's not a lot of storage space.
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Nice!

Rain gear?
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Love the bike! My first bike was a Trek. Not as nice. Can't remember the model but only paid ~$350 for it new. Wasn't the lightest and had straight bars. Used it on a few tours.

I now use a 2011 Fuji Newest 3.0 while on tour. Total weight is ~30lbs. Run with two rear panniers and a bag on the rear rack.
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Originally Posted by bikemig
I like this set up. How many liters capacity of storage do you have been the handlebar and seat bag? Right around a bit over 30 I guess; the Orlieb has 7, the carradice 24. That's not a lot of storage space.
Yes that's about right, about 30 as shown in the photo, but don't forget I have a Camper Longflap and when I open the "longflap" up I can carry quite a bit more and I also have a Sea to Summit nylon backpack for emergencies. I have spare space in the handlebar bag that I use to carry bulky items like beer and tins of stew etc at the end of the day before I get to camp.
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Originally Posted by staehpj1
FWIW, I would be curious to see weights in your itemized list.
Sure, I could try that. I'll register on lighterpack and post the results when I get around to it.

Originally Posted by nun
Yes, if you look around you will see plenty of other people's lightweight set ups too.

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Oh wow, that's a super classy setup! What is your pedal and shoe combo? I use clipless road shoes for commuting on my Emonda but swapped platforms on for the tour. I'm thinking about getting some new pedals and cleats sometime before my next tour.

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Nice!

Rain gear?
Tenn waterproof cycling pants, gaiters + waterproof merrell hiking shoes, canari everyest waterproof jacket, pearl izumi cyclone gloves, and a balaclava.

Originally Posted by CliffordK
Nice ride.

After getting slammed on some hill climbs last year, my goal is to lighten the load next year.
I know where you're coming from. I do most my touring through Virginia and West Virginia, where I'll easily have days that have me climbing 6000-10000' a day. Those pounds add up fast.

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Love the bike! My first bike was a Trek. Not as nice. Can't remember the model but only paid ~$350 for it new. Wasn't the lightest and had straight bars. Used it on a few tours.
Hah, you and me both! I did my first tour with a 30$ walmart hiking pack and a 200$ craigslist Trek 4300. Here's that first setup next to my current bike





Originally Posted by antokelly
love to see the videos fantastic set up for sure.
Alright! I apologize its so long...I don't think I'm very good at making touring videos


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Nice! Love UL travel. Is that 17 bike, 11 gear, no consumables?
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Nice! Love UL travel. Is that 17 bike, 11 gear, no consumables?
About. Closer to 18/10. 2.5L of water and 1000 calories of food puts me a little over 30.

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Originally Posted by sexy cyclist
Hah, you and me both! I did my first tour with a 30$ walmart hiking pack and a 200$ craigslist Trek 4300. Here's that first setup next to my current bike
That reminds me... There is usually a lot of hate on the forums for backpacks when touring, but I have found them useful and comfy if kept light enough.

I have taken either a 10 ounce REI Flash 18 or a 2.4 ounce Sea to Summit Ultra-Sil one and been happy with them. Initially I took one to use for carry extra stuff on those few days where I needed more than a day of water or something.

I found it comfy enough that I wound up putting the stuff I wanted to keep with me at all times in it and enjoyed being able to just get off the bike and go in a store or whatever without needing to take anything off of the bike with me. It was nice that my phone, money, and other theft worthy stuff was always with me with no need to think about it.

When I go that route I wear tech running tees instead of jerseys. The Sea to Summit Ultra-Sil back pack and a tech tee actually weigh about the same as some of my short sleeved jerseys so there really isn't even a weight penalty.

I probably never had more than 2 pounds or so in it except at the beginning of a long stretch of desert when it was heavy with water.

Since these days my gear can be in the 9-14 pound range I could see carrying all my gear split between a bar roll and a little backpack.

Also it is nice to have along for grocery runs, side hikes, or other outings. If you go into a museum, or other point of interest it allows you to take your valuables with you without carrying a handlebar bag or something along.
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Great stuff guys...

I have a CX bike that I'm looking to rig bike-packing style for longer rides and unpaved rail-trail touring that will probably take me into @nun 's ~37 lbs / 30 liter range. I too am opting for a tent (double-wall), some cooking gear, and a change of clothing or two - can't seem to get much below 15 lbs on the gear and bags half.

At the moment, I'm currently short-touring with ~43 lbs / 30Ls, and while it's neither particular lightweight nor fast, I have a feeling it might be the most "compact" rig here - clicky .
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I can't say I'm an ultralight tourer, but I go more like "lightweight" (whatever you put into that word). My emphasis is more on comfort, but about 40-45 lbs total can't really be that bad either. What I appreciate most with bikepacking is the aero aspect of it. It makes a significant difference to be relieved from those "sails" (panniers) hanging down the sides of the bike. Go faster - go further!
I tried one of those proper bikepacking saddle bags last fall but I didn't like ii. Now it's for sale. Too much swaying for my taste, so I went back to using a rear rack with a 22L roll-top dry bag (Ortlieb PD350) strapped to it. Despite being a little bit harder to pack and unpack, it works better in my opinion, is much cheaper, and I can also stuff more "s#|t" into it.
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Originally Posted by sexy cyclist
Hah, you and me both! I did my first tour with a 30$ walmart hiking pack and a 200$ craigslist Trek 4300. Here's that first setup next to my current bike
Here's my first bike. Trek 7.1 FX. Good bike while I owned it. Mainly purchased it to get around campus where I went to college.



Originally Posted by staehpj1
That reminds me... There is usually a lot of hate on the forums for backpacks when touring, but I have found them useful and comfy if kept light enough.

I have taken either a 10 ounce REI Flash 18 or a 2.4 ounce Sea to Summit Ultra-Sil one and been happy with them. Initially I took one to use for carry extra stuff on those few days where I needed more than a day of water or something.

I found it comfy enough that I wound up putting the stuff I wanted to keep with me at all times in it and enjoyed being able to just get off the bike and go in a store or whatever without needing to take anything off of the bike with me. It was nice that my phone, money, and other theft worthy stuff was always with me with no need to think about it.

When I go that route I wear tech running tees instead of jerseys. The Sea to Summit Ultra-Sil back pack and a tech tee actually weigh about the same as some of my short sleeved jerseys so there really isn't even a weight penalty.

I probably never had more than 2 pounds or so in it except at the beginning of a long stretch of desert when it was heavy with water.

Since these days my gear can be in the 9-14 pound range I could see carrying all my gear split between a bar roll and a little backpack.

Also it is nice to have along for grocery runs, side hikes, or other outings. If you go into a museum, or other point of interest it allows you to take your valuables with you without carrying a handlebar bag or something along.
+1 - Big fan of backpacks myself. Although my pack is heavier. I was using a Teton Sports (I think?) bag but got a CamelBak Skyline 10 LR for Christmas. Plan to use that on the Southern Tier next year. The reviews all look good. I like having my wallet, phone etc on me at all times as you mentioned. Since this bag is bigger I'll probably ditch my seat wedge and carry my tube etc in it as well.
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Originally Posted by Will Wheeler
I can't say I'm an ultralight tourer, but I go more like "lightweight" (whatever you put into that word). My emphasis is more on comfort, but about 40-45 lbs total can't really be that bad either. What I appreciate most with bikepacking is the aero aspect of it. It makes a significant difference to be relieved from those "sails" (panniers) hanging down the sides of the bike. Go faster - go further!
I tried one of those proper bikepacking saddle bags last fall but I didn't like ii. Now it's for sale. Too much swaying for my taste, so I went back to using a rear rack with a 22L roll-top dry bag (Ortlieb PD350) strapped to it. Despite being a little bit harder to pack and unpack, it works better in my opinion, is much cheaper, and I can also stuff more "s#|t" into it.
I'm pretty much in the same spot, 45 pounds total for sub-freezing conditions. I've thought about rackless, but I have some nice rear panniers that work perfectly for my travel style, and it's hard to give them up. But if I ever need a new bike and if my panniers give out (30 years old now), I'll look at lighter options, and try to get below 40 pounds without spending a lot of extra money.

At some point you get light enough and it's not fun or worthwhile getting lighter. There's such a thing as "stupid light." I'm a long distance hiker as well, and I reached that point with a ten-pound backpack where I didn't even notice the pack anymore. I can doff my raincoat and pack it without breaking stride. I'm pretty comfortable with where I am with the 45 pound bike load, too.
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sexy cyclist, While you ultra light touring folks have helped me plan my cargo much better than I would've on my own, I've reverted back to using my touring bike. I may scab some of your ideas however....thanks.

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