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Old 02-04-17, 10:00 PM
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Two Randonee Questions

I'm considering a 2017 Co-Op ADV 1.1 (Rebranded Randonee) when they come out as well as a LHT. I'm assuming that most frame and clearance measurements will stay the same.

Those of you with Randomness:

1. What is the largest size tires you can fit with fenders and have adequate mud clearance? Yes, I know I can wait and measure, but I enjoy research and planning ahead. Also, sometimes my LBS runs a February or March sale including Surleys so I want as much info as possible.

2. The Co-Op has in line brakes will the Surly LHT has V-brakes. Is one style superior to the other? ( I'm not interested in disc brakes.)

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About tires: Schwalbe Smart Sams 700x45 the outer knobs would rub the chainstays (until I filed those outer knobs down a little). 700x40 Mondials leave a decent amount of room. There's more tire space in the front than in the back.
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Originally Posted by tyrion
About tires: Schwalbe Smart Sams 700x45 the outer knobs would rub the chainstays (until I filed those outer knobs down a little). 700x40 Mondials leave a decent amount of room. There's more tire space in the front than in the back.
Are you running these tires with fenders?
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Originally Posted by MAK
Are you running these tires with fenders?
No, but I'm pretty sure I could get fenders on comfortably over the 700x40 tires. There wouldn't be a lot of clearance for mud though.
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The Randonee and its rim brakes do not like mud. I am not sure that any rim brakes are adequate in mud.

I have the original 700X32 with fenders (plastic Planet Bike Hardcore). They don't like crossing a muddy road, let alone riding on one.
You get bigger tires/lesser clearances, bigger trouble.
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I've had up to 700Cx37 tires with fenders on my 2009 Randonee. I usually ride 32 or 35s to reduce tire SKUs in the garage bike shop, and rarely notice the difference.
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IIRC I used up to 37mm wide tires on the 2008 Randonée w/fenders. 622mm/700C LHT gives 42mm allowance & 559mm/26" LHT gives 53mm, big improvement. BTW AFAIK the Co-Op has V-brakes & the LHT has cantilever brakes. V-brakes are not V-shaped, illogical name thanks to Shimano geniuses. I think majority of rim-brake tourists use cantis but folks use V-brakes too.
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