Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Touring Have a dream to ride a bike across your state, across the country, or around the world? Self-contained or fully supported? Trade ideas, adventures, and more in our bicycle touring forum.

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-14-17, 10:39 PM   #26
BigAura
 
BigAura's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Chapin, SC
Bikes: all steel stable: surly world troller, paris sport fixed, fuji ss
Posts: 3,183
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 479 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
So what might have cost $160 or so, now costs $480.
My quick look at FedEx shipping costs is closer to $200 for a bicycle.

I was stipulating that the costs would be higher than luggage. BUT based on the OP's less-hassle & first-class-budget, shipping would be an excellent option.
BigAura is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-14-17, 11:01 PM   #27
FBinNY 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Rochelle, NY
Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter
Posts: 35,092
Mentioned: 101 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3459 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigAura View Post
My quick look at FedEx shipping costs is closer to $200 for a bicycle.

I was stipulating that the costs would be higher than luggage. BUT based on the OP's less-hassle & first-class-budget, shipping would be an excellent option.
For the record I used Bike Flyte's site. But I suspect it's the same with Fedex, and one has to read the fine print. $200 would be for ground, and if they won't accept duty free personal effects by ground, you run into the same glitch.

BTW - there's not much simpler than flying with your own bike. There's probably some kind of shuttle direct from the airport to major hotels in Banff, so it's not exactly a hassle to fly with bike in a box, only a question of $$$$.
__________________
FB
Chain-L site

An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.

“Never argue with an idiot. He will only bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.”, George Carlin

“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN

WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
FBinNY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-17, 12:45 AM   #28
Happy Feet
Senior Member
 
Happy Feet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Bikes:
Posts: 1,685
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 487 Post(s)
I'm not sure why someone would ship the bike ahead like that.

The problem isn't just cost but also time. If your flight lands outside of business hours you have to stay overnight, hire at least two taxis and can't leave until business hours the next day - probably 10am for a bike store. That reduces your capacity to make it to Banff in one day.

This fall I flew into Winnipeg with my bike, assembled it in front of the airport, put my box in the recycling bin and rode west within the hour.
Plan to do the same thing from Calgary this June. The ride from Cowtown to Banff is not bad at all, as others have said.

But a good shop to use would be Bow Cycle and Sport - close to the western edge of the city and knowledgeable.

If I were going to take a day or two to get situated I would rather spend them in Banff. There is a good campsite in town (Tunnel Mountain) with a free shuttle bus to and from the downtown core that has groceries, camping gear and two bike shops and great sight seeing opportunities.

I don't think there would be a shuttle from Calgary to Banff that would cost less than the price of flying with the bike. It's quite a drive and hotels in Banff during high season (summer/winter) are expensive.

Last edited by Happy Feet; 03-15-17 at 12:48 AM.
Happy Feet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-17, 01:41 AM   #29
Machka 
In Real Life
 
Machka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Down under down under
Bikes: Lots
Posts: 49,020
Mentioned: 56 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1655 Post(s)
Regarding shuttles ...

There's Brewster, but the last time I contacted them, they insisted that the bicycle be in a box, and even then they weren't all that keen on taking it.

There is this service: Banff Airporter | Scheduled Airport Bus Between Banff and Calgary Airport ... and it looks like you'd have to make prior arrangements with them if you've got a bicycle.

There are a few others as well.

You'd have to do some price checking and you'd have to contact them regarding the bicycle.
Machka is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-17, 03:35 AM   #30
NoControl 
Look Ma! No Hands!
Thread Starter
 
NoControl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: New Hampshire
Bikes: Surly ECR, 1953 Dunelt
Posts: 745
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 423 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy Feet View Post
The problem isn't just cost but also time. If your flight lands outside of business hours you have to stay overnight, hire at least two taxis and can't leave until business hours the next day - probably 10am for a bike store. That reduces your capacity to make it to Banff in one day.
This is a good point. It now raises the question of my arrival time verses the amount of time it would take me to get to Banff and check into a hotel. I'm beginning to think that the most-economical path for me to take would be to rent a car - drive to Banff - sleep in car - assemble bike in the AM. I would probably stay a night in the hotel just to shower up, tweak the bike and gear, and get last minute whatevers.
__________________
"I have never been lost, but I will admit to being confused for several weeks" -Daniel Boone
NoControl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-17, 06:25 AM   #31
Tourist in MSN
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Madison, WI
Bikes: 1961 Ideor, 1994 Bridgestone MB-6, 2006 Airnimal Joey, 2009 Thorn Sherpa, 2013 Thorn Nomad, 2015 VO Pass Hunter, 2017 Lynskey Backroad, Perfekt 3 Speed of unknown age, 1980s Bianchi Mixte on a trainer for exercise. Several others are now gone.
Posts: 3,981
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 506 Post(s)
Getting from an airport to a hotel with a bike can be an issue too. Or getting your bike in a bike box to an airport at end of trip.

In my community, one taxi company has receiver hitch mounted bike racks, but not their competitors. And the taxis that have a bike rack are so small an empty bike box would never fit in the cab. I think none of the taxis in my community now operate a cab big enough to carry an uncoupled bike in a box. One taxi company used to drive minivans, but they are switching to Prius cars.

For one trip, I arrived in Whitefish MT at 1am at the Amtrak station. My motel (I reserved it months before) was 1.5 miles away. I asked Amtrak if I could just come back in the morning to get my bike, they said ok. I walked to the motel, then walked back the next day to get my bike. But many airports that are served only by major highways don't even have a way to walk somewhere to leave the airport.

When I bought my S&S bike, it was for two reasons, (1) lower airline fees and (2) the hassles of getting a bike box to and from an airport.

I have only flown with a bike once, and I had my S&S coupled bike. The taxi company I usually use drives Prius cabs. I called and asked if my luggage (an S&S case and another large bag) would fit in their Prius taxi trunk. They were not sure if it would fit in the trunk. So, I called a different taxi company that I had seen use minivans for taxis, and they drive up to my condo with a Prius. I asked what happened to the minivans, they said they were switching to Prius. Everything did fit in the Prius trunk. It was tight, but it fit. But if I had a bike box, I would have been out of luck.

Bottom line is that transport to and from an airport can be a major issue. It is reasonably easy to fly to an airport, assemble your bike there, ditch the box, and ride away if it is at a reasonable time of day. Just make sure that your airport has an access road where bicycles are legal, I know of one airport that I think you can only access it by freeway where bikes are prohibited. But finishing your trip and then getting on a plane can be a different issue altogether.
Tourist in MSN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-17, 06:31 AM   #32
staehpj1 
Senior Member
 
staehpj1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Tallahassee, FL
Bikes:
Posts: 9,084
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 106 Post(s)
To some extent it depends on when you plan to arrive and how you will get under way. I like to ride right out of the airport without getting a room, waiting around for a bike shop to be open, or looking for where ever the bike was shipped to and so on. So I like to fly with the bike for most trips.

I usually fly Southwest so taking the bike is reasonable enough. Last time I checked SW charged $75 for the bike but the other bag was free. I think Delta is $150 for the bike and they charge for the second bag too.

I have never had any damage to the bike beyond possibly a little normal wear and tear that I didn't notice. Properly packed the risk of serious damage is quite low.

If you will get a room directly from the airport using public transportation anyway then shipping the bike using bikeflights.com or ship bikes.com may be the way to go. Staying with a warmshowers.org host and shipping the bike to them can also work.

On the way home I like to just drop the bike at a bike shop and have them pack and ship it. I am usually happy to be shed of the hassle of packing and shipping a bike in a strange town. They usually charge $40-60 for the packing and $40-60 for the shipping. It has always come out at about $100 for the whole deal.

One thing to not do is go to a UPS store and have them ship it the rates are always jacked up when you walk up to the counter. In fact I have typically been charged more for the shipping that the total for packing and shipping via UPS at a bike shop. UPS stores, Postman Plus type stores, and probably FedEx are sure to gouge you for an extra $50 in my experience. I say probably on FedEx, because I have not used a FedEx store.

Last edited by staehpj1; 03-15-17 at 06:38 AM.
staehpj1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-17, 06:33 AM   #33
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Bikes:
Posts: 14,880
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3794 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tourist in MSN View Post
For one trip, I arrived in Whitefish MT at 1am at the Amtrak station. My motel (I reserved it months before) was 1.5 miles away. I asked Amtrak if I could just come back in the morning to get my bike, they said ok. I walked to the motel, then walked back the next day to get my bike. But many airports that are served only by major highways don't even have a way to walk somewhere to leave the airport.
Sometimes you can't even get a cab. At the end of my tour in Missoula, Montana last year I waited until the day before my flight to try to book a cab for a flight that departed before 6:00 a.m. I was SOL, in part because I forgot that ACA's Cycle Montana Tour had ended in Missoula the same day as my tour did and people were flying out the same day. I was forced to walk more than three miles from the KOA to the airport at 3 a.m. with all my gear in a large backpack. Good thing my bike was being shipped home by REI.

I have another tour from/to Missoula this June. This time, I booked a room at a motel that has a shuttle, and it's less than a mile from the airport in case I end up needing to walk.
indyfabz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-17, 07:21 AM   #34
BigAura
 
BigAura's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Chapin, SC
Bikes: all steel stable: surly world troller, paris sport fixed, fuji ss
Posts: 3,183
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 479 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
For the record I used Bike Flyte's site. But I suspect it's the same with Fedex, and one has to read the fine print. $200 would be for ground, and if they won't accept duty free personal effects by ground, you run into the same glitch.

BTW - there's not much simpler than flying with your own bike. There's probably some kind of shuttle direct from the airport to major hotels in Banff, so it's not exactly a hassle to fly with bike in a box, only a question of $$$$.
I'll drop out of the discussion as relates to Banff, cause I've never flown nor shipped there.

I have done both shipping-ahead & flight-with-baggage and both worked successfully (US only). Personally my cheapness is the deciding factor of what to choose. As others have pointed out, timing & logistics play a big part in the overall cost.

For me I've found shipping ahead by FedEx and having confirmation that my bicycle & gear are waiting at my destination is comforting. I fly only carry-on which is my sea-to-summit day-pack with personal items. Plus I trust FedEx package handling more than TSA/Airport-baggage-handlers. If the $$ is close shipping-ahead is my preference.

Last edited by BigAura; 03-15-17 at 07:43 AM.
BigAura is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-17, 07:42 AM   #35
Tourist in MSN
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Madison, WI
Bikes: 1961 Ideor, 1994 Bridgestone MB-6, 2006 Airnimal Joey, 2009 Thorn Sherpa, 2013 Thorn Nomad, 2015 VO Pass Hunter, 2017 Lynskey Backroad, Perfekt 3 Speed of unknown age, 1980s Bianchi Mixte on a trainer for exercise. Several others are now gone.
Posts: 3,981
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 506 Post(s)
This raises another point. Does the OP know how great train travel can be when cycling compared to air travel?

While I have only flown once with a bike (and to make it simpler, it was S&S coupled), I have ridden Amtrak several times with a bike.

The first attached photo in Portland OR, shows our two bike boxes (Amtrak sized, meaning both wheels still on the bikes), checked and carry on luggage where we got off a train and were waiting for a bus to take us to our starting point.

Second photo is in Pittsburgh Amtrak station where we were assembling our bikes.

Third photo is in Kirkwood (suburb of St Louis MO) waiting for the train, this train did not require boxing the bikes.

I have not ridden a train in Canada for several decades, but they might be as friendly to bikes as Amtrak is???

A few days on a train can be a combination of relaxed sightseeing and boredom, some people like it and some hate it. But it is an option to consider.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 20IMGP1003.jpg (95.4 KB, 44 views)
File Type: jpg 20IMGP4131.jpg (94.5 KB, 45 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_4742.jpg (99.7 KB, 44 views)
Tourist in MSN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-17, 08:00 AM   #36
skookum
cyclotourist
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: calgary, canada
Bikes:
Posts: 705
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 63 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tourist in MSN View Post
This raises another point. Does the OP know how great train travel can be when cycling compared to air travel?

While I have only flown once with a bike (and to make it simpler, it was S&S coupled), I have ridden Amtrak several times with a bike.

The first attached photo in Portland OR, shows our two bike boxes (Amtrak sized, meaning both wheels still on the bikes), checked and carry on luggage where we got off a train and were waiting for a bus to take us to our starting point.

Second photo is in Pittsburgh Amtrak station where we were assembling our bikes.

Third photo is in Kirkwood (suburb of St Louis MO) waiting for the train, this train did not require boxing the bikes.

I have not ridden a train in Canada for several decades, but they might be as friendly to bikes as Amtrak is???

A few days on a train can be a combination of relaxed sightseeing and boredom, some people like it and some hate it. But it is an option to consider.
There is no regular passenger train service to Banff or Calgary. There is an ultra expensive tourist train -the Rocky Mountaineer that goes to Banff from Vancouver. Not too handy if you're coming from the east coast.
There is train service to Edmonton and Jasper, you could ride the Icefields Parkway. How many days to get there from New Hampshire, I don't know.
skookum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-17, 08:17 AM   #37
jefnvk
Senior Member
 
jefnvk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Metro Detroit
Bikes: 2016 Novara Mazama
Posts: 5,512
Mentioned: 37 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2144 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tourist in MSN View Post
This raises another point. Does the OP know how great train travel can be when cycling compared to air travel?
Don't get me wrong, I love train travel, but outside of commuter services or short haul regional routes in North America it is just not that practical for anyone who doesn't have unlimited time. Even for those that do, many times it is still simply not practical. If I want to go from Detroit to DC or NYC, I have to go west to Chicago first, taking me 5 hours (one way) out of my way.
jefnvk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-17, 08:31 AM   #38
Squeezebox
Banned.
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Bikes:
Posts: 2,087
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 760 Post(s)
Has anybody had any experience with rental cars?
Squeezebox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-17, 09:28 AM   #39
shelbyfv
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Bikes:
Posts: 4,158
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 661 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Squeezebox View Post
Has anybody had any experience with rental cars?
Probably most of us. They require both a credit card and a driver's license.
shelbyfv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-17, 09:55 AM   #40
Juan Foote
LBKA (formerly punkncat)
 
Juan Foote's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: OTP South
Bikes: Spec Roubaix SL4, GT Traffic 1.0
Posts: 3,190
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 466 Post(s)
Having worked for a major air shipping company out of one of the largest hubs in the world, I can tell you two things I learned.

Overpack everything. Make SURE it can't be hurt by dropping, slamming, being stacked on, etc. Treat it like the Samsonite Gorilla will get ahold of it, because he will. Particularly angry gorilla when the weather is bad too....

NEVER mark anything "fragile". See above. Packages marked that way are like a challenge accepted entertainment form for ramp workers.
Juan Foote is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-17, 10:49 AM   #41
Doug64
Senior Member
 
Doug64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Oregon
Bikes:
Posts: 4,861
Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 502 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by skookum View Post
There is no regular passenger train service to Banff or Calgary. There is an ultra expensive tourist train -the Rocky Mountaineer that goes to Banff from Vancouver. Not too handy if you're coming from the east coast.
There is train service to Edmonton and Jasper, you could ride the Icefields Parkway. How many days to get there from New Hampshire, I don't know.
We found that out last summer. We took the train from Portland, OR to Vancouver, BC; and planned on taking the train from Vancouver to Jasper. However, the railroad workers were threatening to go on strike. The railroad told us it would be wise to find alternate transportation, and refunded our ticket cost. It was cheaper to rent a car and spend the night in a motel on the way to Banff than it was for the train!

I like trains and we use them a lot. However, The large boxes do not offer as much protection as a well packed compact bike box. Amtrak boxes are very easy to pack, but they are almost too large—things tend to shift. We have had some minor damage to the bikes from train travel.

The Amtrak employee is picking my bike up after it fell off the cart !


We have shipped our bikes using Fedex and UPS. Our most recent was Fedex from Oregon to Michigan. My wife's bike is coupled, and we could get it in a small regular bike box that was under Fedex's arbitrary size limit of 54"x28"x8". The cost to ship it was $68. My large 58 cm frame bike would not fit in a box that size, and I used a larger sized bike box. It cost $165 to ship. It would have been cheaper to fly with it.

Last edited by Doug64; 03-15-17 at 01:17 PM.
Doug64 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-17, 11:06 AM   #42
NoControl 
Look Ma! No Hands!
Thread Starter
 
NoControl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: New Hampshire
Bikes: Surly ECR, 1953 Dunelt
Posts: 745
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 423 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tourist in MSN View Post
This raises another point. Does the OP know how great train travel can be when cycling compared to air travel?
@Tourist in MSN Based on all of the good reviews here about Amtrak bike-friendliness, I looked there first. Whitefish is about as close as I could even get to Banff. So lets say I booked a train to Whitefish. After all the stops, I my trip would then be pushed out to about 32 hours. I could either be miserable sitting in a coach seat ($232) for 32 hours or pay $1150 for a roomette, and probably still be miserable.

I would then need to take a bus or find passage to Banff from Whitefish. Of course, I'd be very willing to be corrected, but after spending a few hours at this now, I do not this that train is the way to go. I did so much want to take the train. I love traveling by train, and have done it extensively both here and abroad.

My revised plan is to fly cheapest and quickest flight to Calgary. Btw, cheapest and quick usually do not go together, another reason I'm leaning toward Delta. So far, in my research, they are in the top spot. Would I dish out $300-$400 (I'm thinking bike+fare) extra not to have an additional 8 hours added to my flight? You betcha.

So I get to Calgary. Hard to say it. I spent many months working in Cagliari, Sardinia, and whenever I'm trying to pronounce Calgary, well, you know. So okay. Calgary with bike in tow. I'm thinking I'll tape a cheapo box-cutter to the frame of my bike before its packed, so that I can dismantle the bike box and ditch it while I'm at the airport. Whether I pedal to Banff, or rent a car - either way, I'll need to leave the box behind.

If I rent a car, I'll lob the bike and my gear into the car and beat it down the road to Banff. I'll sleep in the car that night then turn it in and I'll be ready to roll. Somewhere amongst all this, I can prep the bike and my gear.

Sound like a plan?
__________________
"I have never been lost, but I will admit to being confused for several weeks" -Daniel Boone
NoControl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-17, 11:12 AM   #43
NoControl 
Look Ma! No Hands!
Thread Starter
 
NoControl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: New Hampshire
Bikes: Surly ECR, 1953 Dunelt
Posts: 745
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 423 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Juan Foote View Post
Having worked for a major air shipping company out of one of the largest hubs in the world, I can tell you two things I learned.

Overpack everything. Make SURE it can't be hurt by dropping, slamming, being stacked on, etc. Treat it like the Samsonite Gorilla will get ahold of it, because he will. Particularly angry gorilla when the weather is bad too....

NEVER mark anything "fragile". See above. Packages marked that way are like a challenge accepted entertainment form for ramp workers.
I appreciate this. I'm totally anal about packing stuff to ship, so this would be no different. I have questions though.

Can I pack my gear and stuff INSIDE the bike box? As long as it meets dimension and weight requirements, would it matter? There is stuff that I'd like to take but would not be allowed as a carry-on. I suppose that I'd need to take another suitcase-sized box and check it.
__________________
"I have never been lost, but I will admit to being confused for several weeks" -Daniel Boone
NoControl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-17, 11:23 AM   #44
skookum
cyclotourist
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: calgary, canada
Bikes:
Posts: 705
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 63 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoControl View Post
@Tourist in MSN Based on all of the good reviews here about Amtrak bike-friendliness, I looked there first. Whitefish is about as close as I could even get to Banff. So lets say I booked a train to Whitefish. After all the stops, I my trip would then be pushed out to about 32 hours. I could either be miserable sitting in a coach seat ($232) for 32 hours or pay $1150 for a roomette, and probably still be miserable.

I would then need to take a bus or find passage to Banff from Whitefish. Of course, I'd be very willing to be corrected, but after spending a few hours at this now, I do not this that train is the way to go. I did so much want to take the train. I love traveling by train, and have done it extensively both here and abroad.

My revised plan is to fly cheapest and quickest flight to Calgary. Btw, cheapest and quick usually do not go together, another reason I'm leaning toward Delta. So far, in my research, they are in the top spot. Would I dish out $300-$400 (I'm thinking bike+fare) extra not to have an additional 8 hours added to my flight? You betcha.

So I get to Calgary. Hard to say it. I spent many months working in Cagliari, Sardinia, and whenever I'm trying to pronounce Calgary, well, you know. So okay. Calgary with bike in tow. I'm thinking I'll tape a cheapo box-cutter to the frame of my bike before its packed, so that I can dismantle the bike box and ditch it while I'm at the airport. Whether I pedal to Banff, or rent a car - either way, I'll need to leave the box behind.

If I rent a car, I'll lob the bike and my gear into the car and beat it down the road to Banff. I'll sleep in the car that night then turn it in and I'll be ready to roll. Somewhere amongst all this, I can prep the bike and my gear.

Sound like a plan?
Why don't you take an airport shuttle from Calgary airport to Banff? There are a number of them and the Banff airporter will take your bike if it is boxed.`it would be cheaper than a one way car rental.

Quote:
All skis, snow boards and bikes must be properly packaged for transport (bikes must be in boxes). Any oversized luggage (or special luggage such as musical instruments) will be allowed at the discretion of Banff Airporter.

Calgary Airport Banff Airporter Shuttle Service with Airporter/Airport Shuttle Express
skookum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-17, 11:25 AM   #45
jefnvk
Senior Member
 
jefnvk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Metro Detroit
Bikes: 2016 Novara Mazama
Posts: 5,512
Mentioned: 37 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2144 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoControl View Post
Can I pack my gear and stuff INSIDE the bike box? As long as it meets dimension and weight requirements, would it matter? There is stuff that I'd like to take but would not be allowed as a carry-on. I suppose that I'd need to take another suitcase-sized box and check it.
I did without issue, and carried on one of my panniers with my clothes/electronics. That said, some airlines specifically state this is not allowed, as always it is best to know your specific airline's policy. Neither gate agent looked in my box, they simply weighed it, tagged it, and sent me to the oversize screening/drop off area. Security is the only one that looked in my box, and they aren't enforcing airline policy, just looking for dangerous goods.

I'm trying it again on my next trip on the outbound leg, as the airline is mum on the issue. Worst case, I'll have a duffel bag for the return trip (bike going in a clear plastic bag on the return) I'll pull out, and check the stuff.

EDIT: BTW, if you do pack small things in the box, stick them in a pannier, in case a hole gets punched in the side of the box.
jefnvk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-17, 11:29 AM   #46
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Bikes:
Posts: 14,880
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3794 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoControl View Post
Can I pack my gear and stuff INSIDE the bike box? As long as it meets dimension and weight requirements, would it matter? There is stuff that I'd like to take but would not be allowed as a carry-on.

When I flew to Spain for a tour I packed my racks, sleeping bag, small Gaz burner and tent inside my bike box. That was in 2000. This is today. What are you contemplating packing in the bike box that you cannot carry on? I would not risk checking a stove and/or fuel bottle, at least used ones. Several TSA people I questioned said it would be confiscated if detected and it swabbed for fuel or ash residue. When I travel domestically and ship my bike via FedEx I send my stove and fuel bottle along with the bike.
indyfabz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-17, 11:34 AM   #47
FBinNY 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Rochelle, NY
Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter
Posts: 35,092
Mentioned: 101 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3459 Post(s)
The OP asks about how to get his bike from New Hampshire to Banff, and the thread becomes a discussion about trains, rental cars, just riding the bike.....

This is why I love BF
__________________
FB
Chain-L site

An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.

“Never argue with an idiot. He will only bring you down to his level and beat you with experience.”, George Carlin

“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN

WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
FBinNY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-17, 11:39 AM   #48
badger_biker 
Senior Member
 
badger_biker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Rural Western Wisconsin
Bikes: 9 vintage touring machines and a 1975 Motobecane Le Champion
Posts: 1,265
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 37 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoControl View Post
@Tourist in MSN Based on all of the good reviews here about Amtrak bike-friendliness, I looked there first. Whitefish is about as close as I could even get to Banff. So lets say I booked a train to Whitefish. After all the stops, I my trip would then be pushed out to about 32 hours. I could either be miserable sitting in a coach seat ($232) for 32 hours or pay $1150 for a roomette, and probably still be miserable.

I would then need to take a bus or find passage to Banff from Whitefish. Of course, I'd be very willing to be corrected, but after spending a few hours at this now, I do not this that train is the way to go. I did so much want to take the train. I love traveling by train, and have done it extensively both here and abroad.

My revised plan is to fly cheapest and quickest flight to Calgary. Btw, cheapest and quick usually do not go together, another reason I'm leaning toward Delta. So far, in my research, they are in the top spot. Would I dish out $300-$400 (I'm thinking bike+fare) extra not to have an additional 8 hours added to my flight? You betcha.

If I rent a car, I'll lob the bike and my gear into the car and beat it down the road to Banff. I'll sleep in the car that night then turn it in and I'll be ready to roll. Somewhere amongst all this, I can prep the bike and my gear.

Sound like a plan?
I've done three 30 plus hour Amtrak trips with my bike and found it relaxing if you can spare the extra time involved. Twice in coach and once in a shared small sleeper (which include all meals). I've also boxed a bike and flew to Germany with it on Delta ($150 each way for the bike). The bike was very well packed and suffered no damage on the flights but the box took a beating going over and lost some structural stiffness for the flight back.

At least in your instance the bike box is a one time use item.

I don't know the specifics of issues you might encounter with a border crossing but wouldn't Amtrak to Whitefish and a rental car from Whitefish to Banff be an option?
__________________
Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride - JFK
badger_biker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-17, 12:16 PM   #49
Snuts
Mid Tour!
 
Snuts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Soon back in Edmonton Alberta
Bikes: Marin Muirwoods Racked out for this years Tour, Norco Indi 4 racked out from last years tour, Giant Defi II for week-end ripps.
Posts: 571
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 150 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoControl View Post

Can I pack my gear and stuff INSIDE the bike box? As long as it meets dimension and weight requirements, would it matter? There is stuff that I'd like to take but would not be allowed as a carry-on. I suppose that I'd need to take another suitcase-sized box and check it.
That is what I did here in Canada last fall. Stuffed the box with a pile of gear. It weighed about 60-70lbs. 4 Duct tape bands around the box, easy to watch it transfer from plane - plane in Winnipeg. I carried on my laptop bag, and an overhead carry-on. Not a dime above my simple fare home.
Of interest, when I arrived late in the evening there were 2 bikes come of the airplane. Easy way to meet another local cyclist, ha-ha.
Check with air carriers, they like to support sports enthusiasts, golf, ski's, bikes etc.


Hope this helps.



-Snuts-

Last edited by Snuts; 03-15-17 at 12:20 PM.
Snuts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-17, 12:30 PM   #50
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Bikes:
Posts: 14,880
Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3794 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by badger_biker View Post
I don't know the specifics of issues you might encounter with a border crossing but wouldn't Amtrak to Whitefish and a rental car from Whitefish to Banff be an option?

Think this was looked into a while back. One-way car rental to Canada was not available.


These guys used to have shuttle service between Montana and places like Banff, but it was discontinued this year.


Waterton Lakes National Park/Glacier National Park, Calgary/Banff with Airport Shuttle Express


However, the web site says they can put you in touch with people who can provide the service. It's a long (7hr. or so) drive, so it's probably extremely expensive. One could likely fly from FCA (Whitefish/Kalispell Airport) to Calgary for less.
indyfabz is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:27 AM.


 
  • Ask a Question
    get answers from real people!
Click to start entering your question.
I HAVE A QUESTION