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SkiAddict1 03-22-17 06:57 PM

Advice needed for hitching/unhitching trailer solo
 
Hello everyone,

I'm new here so apologise if this has been covered before, but searching for "hitching trailer" only turned up hits about trailer hitches. I really need some tips/advice on how to hitch and unhitch a single-wheel trailer on my own.

I'll be doing a 5-day cycle tour in about 3 weeks time; I've been training for it with my final weight (25kg -- 55lbs) and that's going fine. The trailer is essentially a copy of the Bob Yak/Ibex (not clear from looking quickly at their site what is the difference). My problem is when I need to hitch the trailer to -- or unhitch it from -- the bike. The bike's front wheel often turns to the side and then the bike rolls sideways. Since I'm standing behind the bike at the time, it's very hard for me to control the front wheel and I usually end up in disaster with the trailer jack-knifed. Recovering from that requires the help of a second person, but on my tour I'll be alone so I'm starting to worry.

It hadn't occurred to me that this might be my major problem for this trip! Before I started training for it, I'd never used a trailer before and I really don't know what to do to solve it. I've lengthened my bikestand hoping that a more upright bike would prevent it, but it doesn't seem to make much difference and in any case you can't have a completely upright bike so the problem would still persist. I've also thought of tying my handlebars back to the seat post so that they can't move, but I wonder if that would simply shift the problem to somewhere else in the ensemble which might be even harder for me to control. I know that making sure the ensemble is completely in-line makes a huge difference, but that's not always possible. I've also thought of adding a stand to the trailer, but the ones I've seen are too tall for it.

How do folks here deal with (un)hitching their single-wheel trailers? Is there a magic method that prevents the problems I'm encountering?

Grateful TIA from a touring newbie who's starting to panic! :twitchy:

mrveloman 03-22-17 07:08 PM

If your problem is just the front wheel turning, why not get some two sided velcro (called OneWrap) and wrap it around the wheel and the down tube immobilizing the wheel.

mike

SkiAddict1 03-22-17 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by mrveloman (Post 19461152)
If your problem is just the front wheel turning, why not get some two sided velcro (called OneWrap) and wrap it around the wheel and the down tube immobilizing the wheel.

mike

I'll have to look into that, hadn't thought of velcro. Certainly bungees don't work -- I just tried it. And you'd need to do each side separately, that much was clear from my test. Thanks Mike.

mibike 03-22-17 09:49 PM

I have a BOB and always hook it to the bike before loading it with gear.

I put a kickstand on the BOB. I had to cut it with a hack saw to make it the correct height. I wouldn't use a stand on the bike without also having one on the trailer.

SkiAddict1 03-22-17 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by mibike (Post 19461428)
I have a BOB and always hook it to the bike before loading it with gear.

I put a kickstand on the BOB. I had to cut it with a hack saw to make it the correct height. I wouldn't use a stand on the bike without also having one on the trailer.

<sinking feeling> Oh dear! Thanks mibike

Rowan 03-23-17 12:56 AM

Lean the bike up against a wall, fence, railing? It's the method I use.

Clamp on the front brakes with a tight rubber band so the bike doesn't move away? Can be used in conjunction with leaning the bike against a wall.

SkiAddict1 03-23-17 01:45 AM


Originally Posted by Rowan (Post 19461555)
Lean the bike up against a wall, fence, railing? It's the method I use.

Clamp on the front brakes with a tight rubber band so the bike doesn't move away? Can be used in conjunction with leaning the bike against a wall.

Ah! That sounds good; all except my first night I'll have something I can lean it against. I'll try the rubber band idea tomorrow. Thanks much Rowan :)

cyccommute 03-23-17 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by SkiAddict1 (Post 19461566)
Ah! That sounds good; all except my first night I'll have something I can lean it against. I'll try the rubber band idea tomorrow. Thanks much Rowan :)

There's always something to lean a bike against. A tree

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...e/DSCN0027.jpg

a bus

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...s/IMG_1215.jpg

a random National Monument

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...tLouis15-2.jpg

a signpost

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...te/My-bike.jpg

1838 state line markers

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps9buxvatt.jpg

I bet I could even find something to lean a bike against here.

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...s/P9270076.jpg

It might be really poky but I could still lean it against something;)

fietsbob 03-23-17 10:13 AM

The Click Stand (tm) is a folding aluminum prop with a U on the top , that cradles the top tube..

As a support, its higher on the bike than a regular kickstand..

you do use a strap or the elastic bands to hold the brakes on, so the wheel does not roll.




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SkiAddict1 03-23-17 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by cyccommute (Post 19462112)
There's always something to lean a bike against. [...]

Your final image is kinda what my first night's site is like, but perhaps I can find something. I also had a thought overnight, to make a little block of wood that would serve as a stand for the trailer. With some little hooks to hold onto the mesh of the trailerbed, it should work for the time I need it to.

Tourist in MSN 03-23-17 02:13 PM

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The elastic bands that women use for their hair, I use that as a parking brake sometimes. It has to be doubled.

I have also used double sided velcro as in the photo.

The elastic or velcro is stored on the bar ready to deploy.

Rob_E 03-23-17 03:45 PM

I used to have a Clickstand, and it had its uses, but I lost it, and never really missed it enough to replace it. The thing that came with the Clickstand that I continue to use is the elastic bands that you use to "lock" the brakes, so the bike doesn't roll away from the stand. Those are really handy for leaning the bike on something and not having it roll.

So, yeah, just a little bit of something to hold your brake lever down may solve all of your problems.

SkiAddict1 03-23-17 04:16 PM

Way cool guys, this is sounding simple and effective! Will get a pack of those hair bands and make myself some "double-sided" velcro. Feeling much less panicked :)

Doug64 03-23-17 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by SkiAddict1 (Post 19463273)
Way cool guys, this is sounding simple and effective! Will get a pack of those hair bands and make myself some "double-sided" velcro. Feeling much less panicked :)

Using velcro as a parking brake, rather than rubber bands or hair "scrunchies," allows more force to be applied to the brake lever.
http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/y...abeecccf66.jpg

We also carry "ferry straps", a 3' piece of 1/2" tubular webbing with a sidelock buckle. This piece of equipment meets our multiple use philosophy, and would be a good way of securing your front wheel to the downtube. It also works for securing the bike on ferries and trains, an extra strap if need, and I've also used mine as a belt.

This is my daughter's bike secured on a sloping ferry ramp. Notice the red velcro securing the brake lever, and the blue "ferry strap" securing the bike to the ramp's rail. Easy to make, and webbing and buckles are available at larger outdoor supply stores.
http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/y...45304fba2e.jpg

SkiAddict1 03-23-17 08:20 PM

Ah, those red ones are just like the straps I use in winter to keep my skis together. Feeling silly I hadn't thought of those...

cyccommute 03-24-17 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by SkiAddict1 (Post 19462817)
Your final image is kinda what my first night's site is like, but perhaps I can find something. I also had a thought overnight, to make a little block of wood that would serve as a stand for the trailer. With some little hooks to hold onto the mesh of the trailerbed, it should work for the time I need it to.

Honestly, when I use my trailer, I lean the bike up against me as I reach down and pull the tongue off the quick release. It's not the difficult. On the other hand, if you turn the bike and trailer just right, the trailer will hold the bike up.

indyfabz 03-24-17 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by cyccommute (Post 19464308)
On the other hand, if you turn the bike and trailer just right, the trailer will hold the bike up.

I was waiting to see how long it would take for someone to mention this.

SkiAddict1 03-24-17 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by cyccommute (Post 19464308)
Honestly, when I use my trailer, I lean the bike up against me as I reach down and pull the tongue off the quick release. It's not the difficult. On the other hand, if you turn the bike and trailer just right, the trailer will hold the bike up.

My trailer is attached on both sides to the axle skewer, so I have to be behind it and take them off both at once (that is, if I understand what you're saying -- I don't understand what the tongue is, to be honest). I saw the "jack-knife" method of parking the Bob the other day, and yes I can always use that if I have to, but (a) I have RSI in my wrists and pulling it out of that on a smooth surface was not remotely easy (and I'll be on gravel) and (b) I'd rather not damage the trailer!

EDIT: with "tongue", are you saying that you pull the axle skewer all the way out and simply let the trailer fall to the ground??? In which case how do you hitch it up? I'm looking for both how to unhitch and hitch.

indyfabz 03-24-17 12:33 PM

How in the world did the 4 people who used B.O.B.s during my '99 x-country tour manage to deal with this issue with no problems before the day and age of Internet forums?

SkiAddict1 03-24-17 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 19465261)
How in the world did the 4 people who used B.O.B.s during my '99 x-country tour manage to deal with this issue with no problems before the day and age of Internet forums?

I don't know -- how did they? That's what I'm here asking, in effect. I'm a lone cyclist -- don't know any other cyclists, have never done any cycle touring, won't have anyone with me to help. I've come here for help because I know I need it. Other people are kind enough to share the benefit of their experience with me.

cyccommute 03-24-17 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by SkiAddict1 (Post 19465244)
My trailer is attached on both sides to the axle skewer, so I have to be behind it and take them off both at once (that is, if I understand what you're saying -- I don't understand what the tongue is, to be honest). I saw the "jack-knife" method of parking the Bob the other day, and yes I can always use that if I have to, but (a) I have RSI in my wrists and pulling it out of that on a smooth surface was not remotely easy (and I'll be on gravel) and (b) I'd rather not damage the trailer!

EDIT: with "tongue", are you saying that you pull the axle skewer all the way out and simply let the trailer fall to the ground??? In which case how do you hitch it up? I'm looking for both how to unhitch and hitch.

The "tongue" of a trailer is the bit that attaches to the towing vehicle. In the case of single wheel bicycle trailers it's more of a "yoke" (although BOB calls it a "fork). Whatever you call it, it's the bit that attaches the trailer to the bike...but it isn't the quick release skewer.

My trailer is a Yakima which is a copy of the Bob. It has a slightly different attachment but it's very similar to the BOB. To attach it, I pull the trailer up close to the bike. I then lean the bike against me and, while facing back towards the trailer, I drop the "yoke" (tongue, fork, whatever) onto the skewer. I have hairpin cotter pins to keep it from bouncing off.

To remove the trailer, I remove the cotter pins, lean the bike up against me again, reach down and pull the trailer "fork" up off the skewer. It's easy peasy. Just like when you lean the bike up against something.

Go practice it without a load. You'll get the hang of it pretty quickly.

SkiAddict1 03-24-17 11:23 PM


Originally Posted by cyccommute (Post 19466001)
The "tongue" of a trailer is the bit that attaches to the towing vehicle. In the case of single wheel bicycle trailers it's more of a "yoke" (although BOB calls it a "fork). Whatever you call it, it's the bit that attaches the trailer to the bike...but it isn't the quick release skewer.

My trailer is a Yakima which is a copy of the Bob. It has a slightly different attachment but it's very similar to the BOB. To attach it, I pull the trailer up close to the bike. I then lean the bike against me and, while facing back towards the trailer, I drop the "yoke" (tongue, fork, whatever) onto the skewer. I have hairpin cotter pins to keep it from bouncing off.

To remove the trailer, I remove the cotter pins, lean the bike up against me again, reach down and pull the trailer "fork" up off the skewer. It's easy peasy. Just like when you lean the bike up against something.

Go practice it without a load. You'll get the hang of it pretty quickly.

Thanks for the explanation, but I don't think I can do this with my trailer. I have to remove both "forks" at the same time or the second one becomes impossible to remove if the trailer is loaded -- all the weight hanging on it makes it act as if it's glued to the skewer. The angles are just all wrong. But with a bodged-up trailer "stand", plus immobilising the front wheel, I should be OK.

cyccommute 03-25-17 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by SkiAddict1 (Post 19466514)
Thanks for the explanation, but I don't think I can do this with my trailer. I have to remove both "forks" at the same time or the second one becomes impossible to remove if the trailer is loaded -- all the weight hanging on it makes it act as if it's glued to the skewer. The angles are just all wrong. But with a bodged-up trailer "stand", plus immobilising the front wheel, I should be OK.

My trailer is no different from yours. It has two fork tips and both have to come off. Don't try to remove one and then the other...you wouldn't do that to take a wheel out of the bicycle fork would you? Pull up as straight as possible. Yes, the trailer is heavy and cumbersome but, with practice, it becomes easier.

SkiAddict1 03-25-17 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cyccommute (Post 19466978)
My trailer is no different from yours. It has two fork tips and both have to come off. Don't try to remove one and then the other...you wouldn't do that to take a wheel out of the bicycle fork would you? Pull up as straight as possible. Yes, the trailer is heavy and cumbersome but, with practice, it becomes easier.

But I have to have my hands on the fork tips to move them outwards over the "bubbles" at the ends of the skewer (see attached photo). If I'm on one side of the bike then I can't do that???

fietsbob 03-25-17 01:42 PM

BoB trailers have 2 cotter pins to pull out, before you lift it dropout off its dropouts onto its custom QR.


You doubt your capabilities, so I guess Ill agree with you.




:rolleyes:


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