I'm Neutral about Carbon
05-19-17, 12:06 AM
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Plus they look oddly cool.
05-19-17, 05:16 AM
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You should actually read the thread then. The problem frame is an Alan, not a specialized. Posts 18-23 claim the bonded carbon specialized had a superior design for most of it's design life.
At the time I saw those first designs, I too, wondered how long these carbon frames would last. Well, here we are, 25+ years later, and the early bonded CF designs are still on the road.
I think it's not only fine, but important to have these reservations, and third to insist upon standardized testing procedures before these new bike designs make it to the road. There are simply no regulations and these are supposed to be road worthy designs competent to travel at speeds of 50+ mph for decades on end.
But no one really knows how long steel or carbon or ti lasts. The few objective studies which exist are simply ignored. Most enthusiasts can't be bothered with the facts. They like their toys and can't be bothered with science.
At the time I saw those first designs, I too, wondered how long these carbon frames would last. Well, here we are, 25+ years later, and the early bonded CF designs are still on the road.
I think it's not only fine, but important to have these reservations, and third to insist upon standardized testing procedures before these new bike designs make it to the road. There are simply no regulations and these are supposed to be road worthy designs competent to travel at speeds of 50+ mph for decades on end.
But no one really knows how long steel or carbon or ti lasts. The few objective studies which exist are simply ignored. Most enthusiasts can't be bothered with the facts. They like their toys and can't be bothered with science.
Here's Cervelo's recall on their R2.5 lugged carbon.
Here's some ambulance-chasers (I'm not a fan but they exist) take on carbon as a source for a new money-stream.
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05-19-17, 05:41 AM
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My toy on tour 2016:
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