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Old 06-06-17, 02:21 PM
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Young daughter on a trail-a-bike?

Last fall I bought a trail-a-bike so my daughter could ride with me. She shows an interest in an over-night trip, we'd camp about 10 miles away at a campsite. I have this grand idea of hooking the BOB to the back of the trail-a-bike, which still may become reality.

So, has anyone used a trail-a-bike with a 2nd grader on a tour of any length? Any advice?
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Old 06-06-17, 07:11 PM
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I recalled a post from vik where he said he toured with Coldbike and his kids.

Check out the first picture in his second post. http://www.bikeforums.net/touring/90...er-island.html

I remember being very impresed at the time as my son using a tag along. I've seen some creative connecting of tag-alongs to tag-alongs and such, but I'd gravitate to finding a way to packlight and use paniers.

I had thoughts of a short overnight ride at the time, but it didn't happen. I made sure I had rear panniers that fit under the rotation of the tag-along bar and between the rear and front panniers, I believed I could pack enough for an overnighter. He's riding his own bike now, but we might try a short overnighter this summer. I got a couple of good possibile routes.

Funny story: On the way to a gated forest with mountainbike trials, my son mentioned wanting to ride with me to my inlaws house approximately 400 miles away. I had said yes, we could do that some day when you're older. After a moment of reflection, I said, "You know, you'll have to ride your own bike - You won't be on the tag along." His reply was, "I don't want to do that!" I asked why and he said, "Because I won't be able to keep up!"
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our kids loved the trail a bikes we had. I'd say the main thing, as with any kid stuff, is to make it fun, don't over do the time riding, ie lots of breaks with good snacks, or at a neat playground, whatever. Our kids also loved camping, so as long as you plan properly and pack properly so that you have all the doo dads covered, it will be fun no matter what if its not an ordeal.
You'll know better than any of us for how much time for breaks, attention span, sleepy time and all that sort of stuff.

have fun if you do it.

ps, watch passing close to a parked car or fence, or gate or whatever, kids have the tendancy to lean over suddenly and your bike will steer by itself quickly, which can be disconcerting. Ours finally figured out not to do it, partly due to being yelled at with close calls, and also just by finally understanding, but they are kids, and so it can happen without warning.
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I havent latched a bob to a trailabike.

I have used panniers and bags while pulling a weehoo. Done it a few times on overnight family camping rides.

Its tough riding in terms of weight. But it cn be a blast with the right approach and outlook.
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Originally Posted by steve-in-kville View Post
So, has anyone used a trail-a-bike with a 2nd grader on a tour of any length? Any advice?
We've cycled 2000kms in Europe with our 5 yo in tow and plan to do it again (well, on this side of the Atlantic for a difference, and she's now 6) this summer.

We use a follow-me tandem. My wife pulls our daughter while I am in charge of our gear.

Works great. The load isn't much of an issue on the flats, and the child is usually happy to pedal uphill (pretend that you race and they'll push hard .

One thing, maybe - our daughter will usually sing all day long. When she becomes silent it usually means that she's about to fall asleep. So we stop for a break or a nap.

My wife and youngest usually ride ahead of me so I can keep an eye on our little one.

Our pre-teen zips back and forth.

We've been having days of more than 80kms, so we don't feel that much constrained.
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Old 06-07-17, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by steve-in-kville View Post
.....I have this grand idea of hooking the BOB to the back of the trail-a-bike...... Any advice?
that sounds dangerous.....hooking a trailer to a trailer?
loaded down with stuff, along with a squirmy kid?
and traffic.

you should either pack light in panniers,
or have someone drop off your camping supplies 10 miles away,
or do a separate trip and then come back for the kid.



.....or.....you could attend the "bring your daughter to darwin award day" ceremony.
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Old 06-07-17, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by steve-in-kville View Post
. I have this grand idea of hooking the BOB to the back of the trail-a-bike, which still may become reality.
You are kidding right? Please tell us you are kidding.

If not, I really fear for your kids being subject to any other of your "grand ideas".
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Old 06-07-17, 08:35 AM
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I dunno. I can maybe see it for 10 miles on a flat, paved/smooth surface trail, but not in the hills of Lebanon County, PA.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
I dunno. I can maybe see it for 10 miles on a flat, paved/smooth surface trail, but not in the hills of Lebanon County, PA.

It would be unstable and dangerous. These two trailers were never designed to be used in this manner.
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Old 06-07-17, 09:45 AM
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Author, Joe Kurmaskie , Joe Kurmaskie The Metal Cowboy | Author, Dad, Husband, Cyclist? Troublemaker did something like that,
I did not.

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Old 06-07-17, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
Author, Joe Kurmaskie , Joe Kurmaskie The Metal Cowboy | Author, Dad, Husband, Cyclist? Troublemaker did something like that,
I did not.

+1 - Great book

Last year on tour I met a family from Canada on tour for a year. A family with thier two kids. The 10-year-old boy was on a tandem with his dad. The 12-year-old girl was on her own bike with twice as much gear as I had. They did 10,000 miles and the kids had the time of thier lives.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
Author, Joe Kurmaskie , Joe Kurmaskie The Metal Cowboy | Author, Dad, Husband, Cyclist? Troublemaker did something like that,
I did not.


You don't need to be bright to author a book. Please don't tell me there is a child in that trailer. If so the guy is a major moron.
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You don't need to be bright to author a book. Please don't tell me there is a child in that trailer. If so the guy is a major moron.
There's a kid in the trailer.

You should try reading the book before calling Kurmaskie a "major moron."

The trip went fine.
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You don't need to be bright to author a book. Please don't tell me there is a child in that trailer. If so the guy is a major moron.

There was

Most people bring their inner child on an epic adventure. Joe “Metal Cowboy” Kurmaskie actually took his two kids along. For a 4,000-mile bicycle ride across America, Joe’s seven-year-old son, Quinn, rides a tagalong bike attached to his dad’s; and behind that is five-year-old Enzo in a bike trailer.

This guy is very fortunate something tragic did not happen. How he traveled across the US without incident is simply amazing.
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There's a kid in the trailer.

You should try reading the book before calling Kurmaskie a "major moron."

The trip went fine.

I don't need to read the book to know this was a moronic stunt.
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I don't need to read the book to know this was a moronic stunt.
Right. Shame on a father for doing something fun with his kids! He should have stayed at home all summer and wrapped them in bubble wrap while they played video games all summer.
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Right. Shame on a father for doing something fun with his kids! He should have stayed at home all summer and wrapped them in bubble wrap while they played video games all summer.

No you use a little brains and you either leave the younger one at home or you partner up with someone that can haul the other kid.
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No you use a little brains and you either leave the younger one at home or you partner up with someone that can haul the other kid.
The trip went fine and they weren't ever in danger. If you read the book you'd know that. They had a great time.

At least not in anymore danger than the family I talked about above.

Actually I find this safer because the father is controlling the bike and not the kid.

You must have this misconception that the trailier was swirling around the road doing fish tails in and out of traffic

More fathers should do stuff like this with thier kids.
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So having myself never tried it, can someone that has please explain the danger of pulling a trailer behind a pull behind to me? I can understand if you are descending at 40MPH, but at touring with small children down the road to a campsite speeds, what is the actual (not imagined) danger?

There are plenty of things suggest on this board that were never designed, tested or suggested to be done in the manner they are explained, I don't buy that as a sole excuse.
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Originally Posted by Ty0604 View Post
There's a kid in the trailer.

You should try reading the book before calling Kurmaskie a "major moron."

The trip went fine.
i know some kids
what did some magical mushrooms
then went subway surfing.

i think they're morons.
maybe i shoulda read their rap sheet first?
their trip went fine, too.
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i know some kids
what did some magical mushrooms
then went subway surfing.

i think they're morons.
maybe i shoulda read their rap sheet first?
their trip went fine, too.
You're comparing criminal acts to a father having fun with his kids.....? Really?
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Wow, well this thread went off the rails rather quickly.

While I wouldnt connect a trailer to a trail-a-bike for use, I would want to see one in action before calling the user a moron and declaring the children will face certain death.
My main issue(s) would be the inconvenience of length. That and overall weight.
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You're comparing criminal acts to a father having fun with his kids.....? Really?
no, dear. i'm comparing stupidity with stupidity.

but as to crinimal? depends on the location.
some places are more stricter on what they consider child endangerment.
really.
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I don't need to read the book to know this was a moronic stunt.
A brief read of a synopsis describing Kurmaski's habit of counting on mooching (i.e. begging) to support his family bicycle vacations even before setting out on day one, euphemistically described as depending on the kindness of strangers, demonstrated all I needed to know about his characterand concern for his family's welfare. Might also explain at least one poster's admiration for his touring techniques.
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The trip went fine and they weren't ever in danger. If you read the book you'd know that. They had a great time.

At least not in anymore danger than the family I talked about above.

Actually I find this safer because the father is controlling the bike and not the kid.

You must have this misconception that the trailier was swirling around the road doing fish tails in and out of traffic

More fathers should do stuff like this with thier kids.

Just because the trip just happened to go fine doesn't mean they were not in danger. It was pure dumb luck a tragedy did not occur. Controlling one trailer is a challenge enough. Trying to control two is simply unsafe.
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