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Old 06-09-17, 06:18 PM
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Vegans who tour....?

Are there any other vegans on here who do long distance touring? I searched the forums and didn't see any other threads.

When I first went on a tour my doctor said being a vegan would make it difficult. It didn't and I haven't had animal products in 8 years now.

If you're vegan what do your meals look like while on tour? I'd love to share ideas so I can broaden my knowledge!

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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSF...NaQp4LQ/videos

You might find these videos interesting. This woman is a vegan who tours. There's one video about how she eats on tour.
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Originally Posted by tyrion View Post
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSF...NaQp4LQ/videos

You might find these videos interesting. This woman is a vegan who tours. There's one video about how she eats on tour.
Thanks much! I'll watch it later
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I'm not, but I don't see how it would, unless you were in some remote areas or only around cultures in which it wasn't a thing, or only eat at restaurants. Plenty of pro athletes who are vegan to prove one can do it nutritional wise, and plenty of places one can obtain and prepare your own food in the Western world to eat to your preferences.
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Once met an Indian round-the-world bike-packer (riding an ancient Indian commuter bike) who survived mostly on white rice. For long-distance touring veggies/vegans might want to include a stove--easy & fairly quick to make rice/lentil/veg meal. If temperature is moderate one can use plastic bags to sprout alfalfa seeds/mung beans etc.
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Originally Posted by DropBarFan View Post
Once met an Indian round-the-world bike-packer (riding an ancient Indian commuter bike) who survived mostly on white rice. For long-distance touring veggies/vegans might want to include a stove--easy & fairly quick to make rice/lentil/veg meal. If temperature is moderate one can use plastic bags to sprout alfalfa seeds/mung beans etc.
I love rice while on tour! I like my rice a little chewy, as odd as that sounds, so I always slightly undercook it. If a gas station has piping hot water I can fill a coffee cup with that and add bagged rice and it'll cook good enough for me to eat.

This past year I've been working on a farmers market tour. Between March and November there's a few farmers markets around every day of the week in different cities. So I'm working on a route that'll allow you to do a long distance tour (several hundred miles) while only stopping at farmers markets. (There are stores on the route so you're not limited to farmers markets but that's the whole point.)
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I'm not vegan but am vegetarian. Alas.. I am also the worst example for fine cuisine dining while riding. I usually eat what I can get and will resort to canned beans and Alpha getti's when nothing else is available. One thing I like to bring as a go to source of protein is a small jar of peanut butter. You can always eat a spoonful or two in a pinch.

Oddly, at home I like to cook and am currently exploring different grains like Kamut, Sorghum, Buckwheat etc... with curries and other sauces. I use tofu a lot as well but hate to wash dishes on the road so I forgo the kitchen in leu of a can opener and spoon.
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You might like Vietnam, lots of vegetarian dishes, a friend is there, sending back food porn pictures on FB.

He brought his bike..
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Originally Posted by BikeliciousBabe View Post
Are there any other vegans on here who do long distance touring? I searched the forums and didn't see any other threads.
I haven't done any tours that were long enough or far enough from home to make my vegan diet a problem, but for about seven years, I traveled almost every single day for work and constantly had to struggle to find food in cities and towns all across North America. It was virtually impossible and I often ended up shaking and hallucinating by the end of the day. "This is stupid," I thought. I was making myself sick while trying to be healthy.

Eventually, I had to loosen up a bit and stop asking if there was chicken broth in my pasta or egg in my bread. Today, while I'm still a strict vegetarian, the tail is no longer wagging the dog when it comes to the little subtleties that make my food "vegan." I am much more relaxed now and I can do more things and go more places.

I'd imagine that, if you're not willing to bend at all, bike touring in faraway places might be difficult - and maybe not as enjoyable as it could be. But maybe if you ask fewer questions, you can get along anywhere?

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check out durrianrider on youtube. they guy is a character too
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check out durrianrider on youtube. they guy is a character too
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I'm vegan and starting my tour from the Mexican border to the Canadian border on Monday. Doing it credit card style, which has its advantages and disadvantages.


On-bike food is the easy part. Clif Bars are easy to find, and most of those are vegan. Then there are all sorts of liquid calorie options. Lots of expensive vegan junk food in gas stations. Some gas stations have bananas. Peanuts are a good gas station food. The markup on those doesn't seem as bad as it is on most things. I'll do mostly liquid calories on the bike and try to stock up on Clif Bars when I'm in towns that have a decent grocery store. Hopefully that saves a little money.


Off-bike food is more difficult. The key to riding lots of miles day after day is getting in a ton of calories every night. I'm more of a grocery store guy than a restaurant guy. Some towns have better options than others, so I have to plan ahead a little bit and know when I want to stock up and carry extra off-bike food with me. I know it's boring, but there will probably be a lot of tortillas and peanut butter involved. PB is one of the most calorie-dense foods per gram. Tortillas pack easily. That's a simple way to get in a lot of calories without carrying a whole lot of extra weight. When I'm in a town with a good grocery store I'll eat as much fruit as I can.
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Adventure Cycling suggested, based on reports over the decades from many riders on their routes, that strict, no-compromise vegans will find it 'challenging' to tour across the interior of the USA.

John Rakowski's out-of-print 'Cooking on the Road' has (carnivore) recipes based on what one will find in small town/crossroad stores. Seems like the same sort of compendium could be worked out for vegetarians.

...lots of tortillas...
Corn. In the rural Southwest, the flour ones slam dunk will be made with lard.
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On-bike food is the easy part. Clif Bars are easy to find, and most of those are vegan.
Thanks! Most Clif Bars have honey in them don't they? Seems like the ones I've looked at have honey which make them not vegan. I'll have to look when I'm at the store next.

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Adventure Cycling suggested, based on reports over the decades from many riders on their routes, that strict, no-compromise vegans will find it 'challenging' to tour across the interior of the USA.
Yeah I don't cheat.

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Thanks! I'll look them up.

Thanks for all the other suggestions. There's a bicycling route around Vietnam @fietsbob that the ACA published in their magazine a few years ago. We still have it somewhere.

@Happy Feet Those are all good! Quinoa and Bulgur are my favorites. I know Sorghum as milo.
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Thanks for all the other suggestions. There's a bicycling route around Vietnam @fietsbob that the ACA published in their magazine a few years ago. We still have it somewhere.
I'm a "top my burger with bacon, cheese, and eggs fried in bacon fat" kinda guy, but if you are soliciting advice for oversea tour destinations, put India on the list. Plenty of folks there that make American vegans look as bad as us bacon lovers (Jains will strain water to avoid harming microorganisms and not eat any part of plant in which harvesting kills it), and even I managed just fine on the vegan food I couldn't get away from for most of the two weeks I was there.
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I'm a "top my burger with bacon, cheese, and eggs fried in bacon fat" kinda guy, but if you are soliciting advice for oversea tour destinations, put India on the list. Plenty of folks there that make American vegans look as bad as us bacon lovers (Jains will strain water to avoid harming microorganisms and not eat any part of plant in which harvesting kills it), and even I managed just fine on the vegan food I couldn't get away from for most of the two weeks I was there.
You're up late lol Jains like Jainism the religion? That's interesting and I didn't know that. Too extreme for me. I don't care if the plant dies. I just butchered one of our cacti and had it for supper this evening
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You're up late lol Jains like Jainism the religion? That's interesting and I didn't know that. Too extreme for me. I don't care if the plant dies. I just butchered one of our cacti and had it for supper this evening
Yep, that's the one! There are so many religions with varying food rules there that the food is generally labelled very well, and it is very easy to get by on a plant based diet. At the very basic level, all packaged foods have a red or green dot, indicating very clearly whether they contain products from an animal or not.
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Yep, that's the one! There are so many religions with varying food rules there that the food is generally labelled very well, and it is very easy to get by on a plant based diet. At the very basic level, all packaged foods have a red or green dot, indicating very clearly whether they contain products from an animal or not.
Oh I see! Interesting. Thank you for the backstory. My biggest issue is honey because a lot of companies don't consider honey to be non-vegan so you'll see honey in "vegan" products but it's clearly produced by animals. It's no different than taking milk from a cow. So I've learned to read labels because "vegan" to some companies isn't really "vegan."
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AAAK, who said "tortillas"? They are like 50% manteca AKA hog lard.
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AAAK, who said "tortillas"? They are like 50% manteca AKA hog lard.
So read the label, many are not lard. maybe even most.
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I have found Tasty Bite meals to be handy when traveling. I know there are many vegetarian options, and I expect several are vegan as well. Most would be improved with some rice. I generally just eat them with a bit of flat bread or straight. They are so easy to come by around me, that I assumed they were everywhere, but I'm recently returned from a trip from Cleveland, Ohio to Cumberland, Maryland where I had to hit several stores before I found one that stocked them. Walmart and Kroger in central Ohio were of no help, but I found a Giant Eagle that had them. The ones I have are all "heat-and-serve," so boil some water, drop the pouch in for five minutes, and eat. The one I ate this trip, I ate it right out of the bag to minimize clean up. Worked fine.
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AAAK, who said "tortillas"? They are like 50% manteca AKA hog lard.
Tortilla makes stopped using lard in 1990. You're 27 years behind the times. Almost all switched to vegetable oil and are vegan. Veryyyyyy few use lard. Maybe 5% of companies but not the ones you'd commonly see in your average grocery stores.

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So read the label, many are not lard. maybe even most.
+1 - See my reply above ^
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Clif products minus a few things are all vegan. The Whey Protein bars, Recovery Protein Drink mix, Luna Protein, ZBar Protein and the Crunch Granola bars are not vegan. However that is a small part of what they make. Everything thing else is generally good though if you are avoiding palm there are a bunch of things that have it. However as always check ingredients. I love a good Clif Bar or the new nut butter filled ones but their little pouches are pretty darn tasty as are the Shot Blocks and Mojo bars.

ProBar was all vegan and I don't believe that has changed. Their stuff is great. I typically use their Bolt energy chews but have had their meal bars and protein bars in the past.

Keen One Quinoa is a great meal at the campsite. It is like an instant quinoa which is vegan (though check ingredients as always) Great flavor and well filling with good nutrients.

McDougalls Right Foods are also nice. I took some noodle cups on tour but I moved everything to a baggy and just figured out how much water I need and wrote it on the bag or you could guesstimate and it might be soupy. Their stuff is all vegan and is pretty light weight.

TastyBites are great but a wee bit heavy but you can eat them from the pouch without cooking but don't take 10 pounds of them like I did on my first tour with some friends. We had no clue what we were doing.

Primal Strips and some TVP are always a good choice but you hopefully knew that.

There is a ton of other dehydrated/dried/MRE type foods that are vegan and if you get yourself a food dehydrator you can make pretty much any sort of meal you want for camping which is my plan for the future. I can help you find a ton of other stuff if need be but it is pretty well out there and marketed for a lot of it.

Lard and other non-vegan ingredients are common in tortillas. Lard is less common so it is mostly other ingredients taken from animals. There are some animal free and even vegan options but not always.

One useful tip because we are in modern times you can have pretty much anything shipped pretty much anywhere pretty quickly. So if you were in Southern Georgia and you ran out of Dr. Bronners or something like that you can easily get it. Plus more and more stores are getting more and more animal free products and if nothing else most stores will sell fruits and veggies of some sort and a great meal can be made from those or you can just eat them on their own.
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Clif products minus a few things are all vegan. The Whey Protein bars, Recovery Protein Drink mix, Luna Protein, ZBar Protein and the Crunch Granola bars are not vegan. However that is a small part of what they make. Everything thing else is generally good though if you are avoiding palm there are a bunch of things that have it. However as always check ingredients. I love a good Clif Bar or the new nut butter filled ones but their little pouches are pretty darn tasty as are the Shot Blocks and Mojo bars.

ProBar was all vegan and I don't believe that has changed. Their stuff is great. I typically use their Bolt energy chews but have had their meal bars and protein bars in the past.

Keen One Quinoa is a great meal at the campsite. It is like an instant quinoa which is vegan (though check ingredients as always) Great flavor and well filling with good nutrients.

McDougalls Right Foods are also nice. I took some noodle cups on tour but I moved everything to a baggy and just figured out how much water I need and wrote it on the bag or you could guesstimate and it might be soupy. Their stuff is all vegan and is pretty light weight.

TastyBites are great but a wee bit heavy but you can eat them from the pouch without cooking but don't take 10 pounds of them like I did on my first tour with some friends. We had no clue what we were doing.

Primal Strips and some TVP are always a good choice but you hopefully knew that.

There is a ton of other dehydrated/dried/MRE type foods that are vegan and if you get yourself a food dehydrator you can make pretty much any sort of meal you want for camping which is my plan for the future. I can help you find a ton of other stuff if need be but it is pretty well out there and marketed for a lot of it.

Lard and other non-vegan ingredients are common in tortillas. Lard is less common so it is mostly other ingredients taken from animals. There are some animal free and even vegan options but not always.

One useful tip because we are in modern times you can have pretty much anything shipped pretty much anywhere pretty quickly. So if you were in Southern Georgia and you ran out of Dr. Bronners or something like that you can easily get it. Plus more and more stores are getting more and more animal free products and if nothing else most stores will sell fruits and veggies of some sort and a great meal can be made from those or you can just eat them on their own.
All of the Clif Nut Butter Bars contain traces of milk. Each of their 8 Nut Butter flavors all have traces of milk. Several of their other flavors, the not Nut Butter ones, have either traces of milk or traces of honey in them. Making most of them not vegan unfortunately.

ProBar is all vegan. I love their Sriracha peanut butter.

I like TVP but not Primal Strips. I don't eat anything that resembles real meat and unfortunately Primal Strips lost me there. I threw it up

As mentioned above, most tortillas today are vegan. I was in Safeway earlier and couldn't find any non vegan tortillas on their shelves of ~30 types of tortillas. I was trying to find some that had animal products just to see and no luck. Mission, the most popular brand I see, are all vegan.

I've never heard of TastyBites, Keep One Quinoa, or McDougalls Right Foods though! I'll keep an eye out for them.

Thank you
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If it were important to me, I'ld still check the label for lard as well as the possibility of beef fat.
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