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Old 07-23-17, 08:39 PM
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Jandd Mini Mntn and Blackburn FL-1.

My pair of 520's were stolen sometime back so I am starting all over again with another bike

I have installed a Blackburn FL-1 on a Fuji Saratoga and have ordered a set of Jandd Mini Mntn Panniers for the front.

I have never had a Blackburn FL-1 or any Jandd Panniers. I read that some panniers don't work well with Blackburn FL-1 Lowriders. Does anyone know if this combination is going to work? Will I need to do anything special?

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I think the Jandd pannier attachment system is one of the most reliable out there. Not a lot can go wrong with rubber coated stainless steel hooks and nylon webbing. But I have had trouble with their panniers fitting on every front rack I had at the time. It always required some kind of customization. This includes the Tubus Tara, OMM Sherpa and Pioneer and the Blackburn MTF-1. Their racks are almost proprietary to their panniers at least for the front. Never an issue with their rear panniers.

I am going to guess the distance is too great between the top hooks and bottom hook to work with that rack. Hope I am wrong for your sake.
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Originally Posted by jsidney
My pair of 520's were stolen sometime back so I am starting all over again with another bike

I have installed a Blackburn FL-1 on a Fuji Saratoga and have ordered a set of Jandd Mini Mntn Panniers for the front.

I have never had a Blackburn FL-1 or any Jandd Panniers. I read that some panniers don't work well with Blackburn FL-1 Lowriders. Does anyone know if this combination is going to work? Will I need to do anything special?
I think you may have accidentally double-posted. You asked this same question last week and will get the same answers. Yes, they will work. The only panniers that don't work with the FL-1 are panniers with Ortlieb-style hooks - ones that fully wrap around the top bar. As you can see, the Blackburn rack has that support plate which doesn't allow hooks to clamp 360 degrees around it. The Jandd panniers use a semicircle design and will rest over top of the rack's top support bar.

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Originally Posted by aroundoz
I think the Jandd pannier attachment system is one of the most reliable out there. Not a lot can go wrong with rubber coated stainless steel hooks and nylon webbing. But I have had trouble with their panniers fitting on every front rack I had at the time. It always required some kind of customization. This includes the Tubus Tara, OMM Sherpa and Pioneer and the Blackburn MTF-1. Their racks are almost proprietary to their panniers at least for the front. Never an issue with their rear panniers.

I am going to guess the distance is too great between the top hooks and bottom hook to work with that rack. Hope I am wrong for your sake.
The packs have arrived but I have not installed them yet. I am thinking about ditching the Blackburn rack for the stronger Jandd rack.

I am going to stick with the Mini Mountains for the front but I now kind of wish for the rear I had ordered the expedition pack and Jandd's longer rack to go along with it.
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Originally Posted by jsidney
The packs have arrived but I have not installed them yet. I am thinking about ditching the Blackburn rack for the stronger Jandd rack.

I am going to stick with the Mini Mountains for the front but I now kind of wish for the rear I had ordered the expedition pack and Jandd's longer rack to go along with it.
Why do you think the Jandd rack will be stronger than the Blackburn rack? They're both made from the same 6061 aluminum. The Blackburn rack even uses thicker gauge aluminum: 12mm compared to Jandd's 9.5mm. Rather than unnecessarily replacing a perfectly good rack, take that $75 and fund a week of bicycle touring.
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The Blackburn rack is as strong as, and yep will work with those Jandds. Won't work with Ortliebs unless you are handy with a Dremel or similar to make some cut outs (which I've done).
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Originally Posted by Timequake
Why do you think the Jandd rack will be stronger than the Blackburn rack? They're both made from the same 6061 aluminum. The Blackburn rack even uses thicker gauge aluminum: 12mm compared to Jandd's 9.5mm. Rather than unnecessarily replacing a perfectly good rack, take that $75 and fund a week of bicycle touring.

The Blackburn says it has a capacity of 26 pounds while the Jandd is advertised as 40 pounds.

I am going to be riding the bike loaded about 500 ;miles in a month but it will not really be touring.
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Originally Posted by jsidney
The Blackburn says it has a capacity of 26 pounds while the Jandd is advertised as 40 pounds.

I am going to be riding the bike loaded about 500 ;miles in a month but it will not really be touring.
I was looking at the one with a similar design to the Blackburn, not the oversized one. At any rate, if you're loading more than 25 pounds on your front rack, you have bigger issues than Jandd v. Blackburn. But to each his or her own. I just hate seeing people get caught in the trap of buying/researching instead of riding/experiencing. The gear you have is perfectly sufficient. Use it until it breaks, then replace it. But my suspicions are that your Blackburn rack won't break unless seriously mistreated. I've had mine since the mid-80's and it's still going strong.
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Originally Posted by Timequake
I was looking at the one with a similar design to the Blackburn, not the oversized one. At any rate, if you're loading more than 25 pounds on your front rack, you have bigger issues than Jandd v. Blackburn. But to each his or her own. I just hate seeing people get caught in the trap of buying/researching instead of riding/experiencing. The gear you have is perfectly sufficient. Use it until it breaks, then replace it. But my suspicions are that your Blackburn rack won't break unless seriously mistreated. I've had mine since the mid-80's and it's still going strong.
I have been overloading for a reason for a very long time. I think it would be i better to have something rated to do what I did on my old bikes anyway.

I am starting over again but not by choice, I hope to be better equipped this time.

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