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Originally Posted by Shadowx
(Post 19850665)
I'm guessing you misunderstand, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt. I am still learning the back roads around my house and am taking a LOT of routes I am not familiar with. I'm using GPS on my phone because the routes have lots of turns, not getting lost and being a able to get back is kinda important. It kills the battery to have maps up all the time. No need for the attitude.
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A word of warning, not all phones will charge directly from a dyno connected USB. Starting and stopping can also lower the efficiency as the phone wakes up each time. Tablets are more picky. Battery lights usually will not turn on while charging. A USB battery will often charge off of anything. I don't know if bicycle GPS will charge and run at the same time, but I recall reading one complaint.
Solar sounds like a good option for this application, maybe on top of the handlebar bag. A dyno is wonderful for frequent and always ready applications like commuting and randonneuring, but pretty pricy. Other dyno's are easier retrofit, but usually loose out in efficiency, though still not so noticeable with today's low power needs. |
Originally Posted by Timequake
(Post 19850611)
Or you could, you know, pull yourself away from your phone for a day and be an active participant in the real world.
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Young Techno-files has made people who use Maps, Pariahs and Luddites, but they are not battery dependent.
And Topographic maps show the slope of the hills.. |
Originally Posted by fietsbob
(Post 19850974)
Young Techno-files has made people who use Maps, Pariahs and Luddites, but they are not battery dependent.
And Topographic maps show the slope of the hills.. |
the Vikings used a 'Sun stone" and have even been able to navigate at sea, on cloudy days,
before the discovery of the Earth's magnetic poles and the compass.. |
My mom refuses to use a GPS and spends an inordinate amount of time studying her atlas before she goes anywhere. I plug the address in to a GPS do a quickie once over on Google maps and roll. I always get to where I need to go with the GPS though it may not have always been the best route. OTOH, I don't know of any engineers that use an old reliable slide rule over a calculator that has batteries that might die when they need their calculator the most...
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Originally Posted by edthesped
(Post 19851055)
My mom refuses to use a GPS and spends an inordinate amount of time studying her atlas before she goes anywhere. I plug the address in to a GPS do a quickie once over on Google maps and roll. I always get to where I need to go with the GPS though it may not have always been the best route. OTOH, I don't know of any engineers that use an old reliable slide rule over a calculator that has batteries that might die when they need their calculator the most...
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Originally Posted by 52telecaster
(Post 19851193)
hey i did a paper on slide rules a few years back. i picked up a couple of them a garage sales and it was a gas using them. what that has to do with anything i dont know....
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Originally Posted by Tourist in MSN
(Post 19851631)
My watch has a circular slide rule, but the print is so small I can't use it without a magnifying glass. No, I do not try to use it while riding a bike.
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Originally Posted by edthesped
(Post 19851055)
My mom refuses to use a GPS and spends an inordinate amount of time studying her atlas before she goes anywhere...
I don't have a dynamo but do have a solar panel and did a 2 week tour this summer completely off the grid. Depends on the locale and season though. I did another 3 week tour with it and only had 3 days of sun. For a short tour I just use a storage battery. Longer tour near civilization storage battery and charger. Off the grid battery and solar panel but I wouldn't sneeze at a hub dyno either. |
Originally Posted by Shadowx
(Post 19850665)
I am still learning the back roads around my house and am taking a LOT of routes I am not familiar with. I'm using GPS on my phone because the routes have lots of turns, not getting lost and being a able to get back is kinda important.
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Originally Posted by 52telecaster
(Post 19851193)
hey i did a paper on slide rules a few years back. i picked up a couple of them a garage sales and it was a gas using them. what that has to do with anything i dont know....
I have to say I was skeptical of Dynamos a couple of seasons ago but it took less than a month of riding with one for me to appreciate their value. I build my own wheels so for me the price of a dynamo wheel is $50 more than a mid range front hub wheel. Electronics to charge a phone will add $100 to $200 more to the setup and owning a Sinewave Revolution and Forumslader recommend the Forumslader. Do people need electronics while touring, no, but there's a lot of conveniences people can live without but tote along with them because it makes their trip more enjoyable. |
Originally Posted by edthesped
(Post 19852846)
I have one laying around somewhere, learning to use it has been on my to do list for years, maybe someday. Unfortunately my inner luddite recently reared its ugly head. I primarily used HP38 and 48 calculators my entire career and my trusty 48GX gave out on me a few months ago, I tried the prime couldn't adjust to it and ended up finding a "like new" actually was new 48G+ in beat up packaging from Amazon for $150, I was excited and surpised as they were discontinued in 2003. The 48GX's are like freaking gold on Ebay so I guess I'm not alone.
I have to say I was skeptical of Dynamos a couple of seasons ago but it took less than a month of riding with one for me to appreciate their value. I build my own wheels so for me the price of a dynamo wheel is $50 more than a mid range front hub wheel. Electronics to charge a phone will add $100 to $200 more to the setup and owning a Sinewave Revolution and Forumslader recommend the Forumslader. Do people need electronics while touring, no, but there's a lot of conveniences people can live without but tote along with them because it makes their trip more enjoyable. |
Originally Posted by tcs
(Post 19852842)
That's cool; like Brother Dave Garner said, everybody's got their own kick goin'. No attitude here, but you might be interested in this.
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