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scale 10-26-17 10:42 AM

RACKTIME Addit rear rack hardware
 
I have rack but the rear hardware is missing. The attachement rods that attach to the frame stays.

Racktime no longer sells in the US so getting parts is tough. Good thing Racktime is the same company is TUBUS. I can order TUBUS stays for the rack through my LBS for $18 which is the list price from TUBUS. The TUBUS stays are the same as racktime from what i can tell.

That is option 1


Option 2 is us the Planet bike rear stay hardware kit which is $5. I ordered one of these and while the attachment is the same, the bolts for the rack that attach the adjusting stays are just a bit larger than the hole in the rack. The attachment nubs on the planet bike system dot fit directly into slot in the bottom of the rack time rack either.

The nubs could be ground down no problem. I could also ream the slot/ hole in the rack slightly with a dremel or bastard file to accomadate the larger attaching bolts of the planet bike system.

^^ gotta love every time you get the chance to say bastard file :)

Which would you do? It is a very very nice rack and it would be nice to use it.

saddlesores 10-26-17 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by scale (Post 19954137)
I have rack but the rear hardware is missing. ...

Which would you do? It is a very very nice rack and it would be nice to use it.

also had a rear rack problem recently.
the rods that came with the rack were double-ended and too long.
replaced them with a pair of stainless mending plates for a couple bucks.

a trip to the hardware store......be creative...

scale 10-26-17 11:08 AM

yeah....i could probably make pair of standard strap steel rack mounts work as well. The rods look so much better. I just dont know if they look $18 dollars better :) The mounting system itself is quite clever and very adjustable.

fietsbob 10-26-17 11:14 AM

I'd get more bolts from the LBS, Or a auto parts or hardware store, that stocks Metric

.. Racktime is a division of Tubus - Ortlieb USA... got a parts list of what should have been included?

Tourist in MSN 10-26-17 12:11 PM

Is it only the rods you are missing, or the other hardware too?
https://www.racktime.com/fileadmin/u...ime_MA_2.0.pdf

This company apparently changed their name, I ordered rods from them under their old name. I think they are sold individually, not as a pair but I am not sure.
https://www.bikeshophub.com/product-...us-accessories

If you need the other hardware too, you might consider saddlesores advice, that would be a lot cheaper.

I was unaware they were no longer sold here, I have four RackTime racks, two of which are the AddIt. I like that rack. For heavy touring I use my Tubus Logo but for light to medium duty I think the Addit is a good rack.

scale 10-26-17 12:25 PM

yup...i need the clamp and the round rod.

https://www.bikeshophub.com/product/...mp-p-1496.html

The clamp is $13 alone here. The planet bike ones are just a bit thicker and wont fit the channel in the racktime rack. I dont mind grinding them down to fit. The problem is the whole where the allen bolt goes in is 1 size bigger too so id have to widen the holes in the rack. The holes in the rack are not holes but long slots to allow for adjustability. IF it where just a hole you could hit it with a drill bit and be done in 2 seconds.

I agree...i love this AddIt rack. Very nicely made. My understanding is that the Racktime stuff was alloy the the TUBUS stuff is steel....making it a bit stronger. The AddIT is still a very strong rack from the looks of it. I wouldnt worry about a full load on this thing at all. Any TUBUS dealer should be able to get TUBUS parts that are compatible with Racktime from what i have found but there is no way to find a RACKTIME dealer in the US to order parts from. You would have to order them from overseas. I wonder why Racktime did this? Even Ortleib cant get Racktime specific parts. I checked.

cyccommute 10-26-17 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by scale (Post 19954379)
yup...i need the clamp and the round rod.

https://www.bikeshophub.com/product/...mp-p-1496.html

You can order the clamps and rods from OrtliebUSA for $18. They use the same parts and they work better than flat rack stays.

ColonelSanders 10-26-17 08:31 PM

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Some Racktime/Tubus rack connectors here, but the freight cost will be approx 20 Euro, but if you also buy other stuff, be it brake pads, tyres, tubes, tools, saddle bags, frame bags etc, the freight cost will still be the 20 Euro.


Tubus Roundstay for Rear Carrier straight - black


Tubus Roundstay for Rear Carrier straight - titanium


Tubus Roundstay for Rear Carrier bent - black


Tubus Roundstay for Rear Carrier bent - silver


Tubus Stainless steel fixing bolt for rear carriers


Tubus Stayholder mounted

Tourist in MSN 10-27-17 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by scale (Post 19954379)
... The AddIT is still a very strong rack from the looks of it. I wouldnt worry about a full load on this thing at all....

When I commented that I use my Tubus rack for heavy loads and the AddIt for light to medium loads, I did not mean to imply that the AddIt is not very strong. The heaviest load I have carried included two weeks of food. Thus, in my case, heavy was really heavy. And a lot of that specific trip was on rough roads that can put a lot of additional stress on the bike and racks.

The Tubus Logo is rated at 40 kg, the AddIt is rated at 30 kg. So, yes I concur that the AddIt is pretty strong, most people would never put over 30 kg on the back rack. Plus for most people, touring is done on well paved roads or good quality gravel trails like the rails to trails routes where a 30 kg capable rack would work great for almost everyone.

scale 10-27-17 12:45 PM

Thanks all. I think i am going to bite the bullet on the $18 parts and have them ordered from Ortlieb through my LBS. That way it will be done right.

J.Higgins 10-27-17 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by cyccommute (Post 19954996)
You can order the clamps and rods from OrtliebUSA for $18. They use the same parts and they work better than flat rack stays.

Hey Stuart, I have the OMM Sherpa on the back of my ECR, and they have flat stays, but they aren't the flimsy run-o-the-mill cheap stays. They are quite robust. Still, I like the "rod" look. What's your take? Do you think I should get the Ortlieb kit?

Check out the pic, and you can see them. They kind of stick out, huh? Think I should spring for the Big-O's?

http://i.imgur.com/gnLEpXC.jpg

ColonelSanders 10-29-17 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by NoControl (Post 19957235)
Hey Stuart, I have the OMM Sherpa on the back of my ECR, and they have flat stays, but they aren't the flimsy run-o-the-mill cheap stays. They are quite robust. Still, I like the "rod" look. What's your take? Do you think I should get the Ortlieb kit?

Check out the pic, and you can see them. They kind of stick out, huh? Think I should spring for the Big-O's?

http://i.imgur.com/gnLEpXC.jpg

Hell yes you should get the Ortleib arms, your current arms are an eyesore on an otherwise gorgeous setup you got there.

cyccommute 10-30-17 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by NoControl (Post 19957235)
Hey Stuart, I have the OMM Sherpa on the back of my ECR, and they have flat stays, but they aren't the flimsy run-o-the-mill cheap stays. They are quite robust. Still, I like the "rod" look. What's your take? Do you think I should get the Ortlieb kit?

Check out the pic, and you can see them. They kind of stick out, huh? Think I should spring for the Big-O's?

It's not that the rack stays are flimsy, it's that they lack adjustability. The round stays on Tubus racks (and some others), can be adjusted forward and back, tilted down, moved in and out, and the tabs can even be turned around so that they can fit on a narrower (or wider) frame.

The flat stays on most racks can be bent to where they need to go but I often have found myself fighting the spring that they make to get the rack level. The round stays are just easier to adjust.

As to the Old Man Mountain rack, I don't see any reason to change it unless you have problems with the rack. It seems to fit and work so why mess with success?

Tourist in MSN 10-30-17 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by cyccommute (Post 19960881)
It's not that the rack stays are flimsy, it's that they lack adjustability. The round stays on Tubus racks (and some others), can be adjusted forward and back, tilted down, moved in and out, and the tabs can even be turned around so that they can fit on a narrower (or wider) frame.
...

And according to the instructions you can also bend the stays by a limited amount. See lower right side of page one. It states that "the roundstay can be adapted through bending" and includes a small figure.
https://www.racktime.com/fileadmin/u...ime_MA_2.0.pdf

cyccommute 10-30-17 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by Tourist in MSN (Post 19961201)
And according to the instructions you can also bend the stays by a limited amount. See lower right side of page one. It states that "the roundstay can be adapted through bending" and includes a small figure.
https://www.racktime.com/fileadmin/u...ime_MA_2.0.pdf

You can bend it more than just a little if you have access to a good tubing bender. I've got one that I've pretzelled to get it to the place where it need to go but it needs a fairly big radius to avoid breaking.

On a side note: You really don't need much in the way of the upper rack stays to carry a load. The load is carried by the legs of the rack. The stays just stabilize the rack and keep it from moving. That said, the round stay system on the Tubus (Racktime and others) make attaching the stays easier to install. More degrees of freedom.


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