Originally Posted by Mikarad (Post 20277145)

i got the marrakesh. Looked at the Vaya as well as the Kona Sutra. The Sutra stand over height for my shortish legs was too high. I didn't like the fit or ride of the vaya. The Marrakesh is not a light bike but it is a very solid bike and it climbs very well. i currently commute on it but i'm planning a 7 day tour in june. I got a 57cm which id=s a touch big but it allowed me to lower the seat a bit and raise the stem with an adjustable stem to give me a bit more upright position. I really like this bike

Originally Posted by dannwilliams (Post 20277590)

El Mariachi-Timberjack

Originally Posted by rpg5 (Post 20277618)

How tall are you and what are your dimensions if you don't mind me asking? I tried the 55 and found it to be too low and cramped. I'm 5'9" for reference. Not sure if the 57 would be a better fit.

Originally Posted by Darth_Firebolt (Post 20277808)

They're completely different bikes. The TJ is a stretched out, slacked out, 27.5 plus tire, 130mm travel, bro bike. The El Mar was a 29er 100mm travel cross country machine.

Originally Posted by dannwilliams (Post 20277817)

I am 5'9" with a 32" inseam. The 57cm fits me perfectly. I am going to try the Brooks saddle for a while. If it ends up not working for me I have my old fizik saddle that I can use and sell the stock b17.

Originally Posted by rpg5 (Post 20279610)

Do you have any pics from the side you can post? My inseam is about 33" and would like to see how much exposed post you have, as well as, see bar height relative to seat height.

Thanks for the feedback!