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jefnvk 12-31-17 02:53 PM

I've got a 6L Dromelite. It works nice, fits far more places than a bottle because it is far more flexible. Yeah, it wasn't cheap, but the utility of it quickly got me over spending the money.

It went into the dry bag with my sleeping bag in Iceland, packed at the top so it was easily accessible.

Aushiker 12-31-17 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by chrisx (Post 20082216)
Take a look at the 4 water bottles on the fork

Thanks for the reminder ... Cyclewerks in New Zealand sell a bottle cage double adaptor which might be an option for some.

https://cdn-asset-mel-1.airsquare.co...A65B3-zoom.jpg

ricrunner 12-31-17 10:54 PM

Aushiker, thanks for your input, I will look at one of those Ortlieb bladders. I know you have travelled extensively in the arid outback of Australia, so you would know what bladders to have for these type of tours. I have been following your travel blogs on Aussie sites for a few years, so you do know what you're talking about. I have only been back touring these past 2 years in OZ, but prefer the outback for the less traffic that is out there, and I don't have a fear that my dog will be run over in his trailer as I do here locally in the New England NSW, Thanks everyone for their comments.

Aushiker 01-01-18 01:55 AM


Originally Posted by ricrunner (Post 20083034)
Aushiker, thanks for your input, I will look at one of those Ortlieb bladders.

To be honest I only went with the Ortlieb because at the time I couldn't easily get MSR Dromedary bags at a reasonable price in Australia due to their restrictive trade practices. That said based on experience and my usage I wouldn't get the MSR bags today as I find the straps on the Ortlieb water bags much more functional. Sea to Summit also have bags called Sea to Summit Pack Water Tap Bladder. Again the lack of straps/handles means they do not work well for me.

djb 01-01-18 04:36 AM

Andrew, are the two handles of the ortlieb more handy for you because odd being able to hang it vertically easier from something in use, or more handy to properly secure it to a bike rack?
The msr ones do have narrow shoelace type straps that go along both sides.

Just wondering your views.

Yan 01-02-18 09:02 AM

I use the 10L MSR Dromedary bag. I loop the chord over my seat and place the bag on top of the rear rack.

Leebo 01-02-18 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by Caretaker (Post 20079833)
I cycled across Spain in June of 2016 where the afternoon temperatures around Toledo were 37c. I've been checking photos of the trip and there's only one normal sized bottle on each bike. But then we started riding about 7am each day and finished not later than 2pm.
We just refilled along the way in bars etc.
Can't see the need for more than 2 bottles per bike if as the OP states the tour is going to be in Spring.

Maybe there are no bars in the desert or the middle of nowhere?

Leebo 01-02-18 02:23 PM

OP, got fork mounts for over sized cages? Look at topeak modula cages or the salsa anything cages. 2 L nalgenes fit. Got a frame bag for a bladder? Lots of options.

Caretaker 01-02-18 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by Leebo (Post 20086090)
Maybe there are no bars in the desert or the middle of nowhere?

Sorry my mistake, I read Spain for Spring in the OP.
I had Spain on the brain. :(

jonc123 01-02-18 09:27 PM

"It would also be possible to purchase bottled water and save something like 60$ on bladders that will rarely be used afterwards."

I think you answered your own question. Don't go and buy some stuff you'll never use again. Go to the grocery store and look at water bottles, soda bottlles, etc. Some are tougher than others.

Aushiker 01-02-18 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by djb (Post 20083231)
Andrew, are the two handles of the ortlieb more handy for you because odd being able to hang it vertically easier from something in use, or more handy to properly secure it to a bike rack?
The msr ones do have narrow shoelace type straps that go along both sides.

I like the handles on the Ortlieb because they allow me to easily attach the bladder to the rack. I can look the straps on each side of the rack and then cinch it down. I find it does pretty well holding the bladder in place. I am sure the MSR could be used in a way to do the same thing.

Also being able to hang the bladder on tree, bike etc is handy at times.

djb 01-02-18 10:00 PM

Thanks, always interested in hearing about details from folks about stuff they 've used out in the real world, and the pros and cons.

rifraf 01-03-18 12:28 AM


Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 20079915)
1st time I ever heard of the extrawheel trailers was reading it being used to carry several gallons of water

to follow an old cattle driving road in remote Australian outback, where there was no water to be had...

rider used a fat bike and a 3rd fat bike wheel on the trailer..

It was water carrying duty here in Australia that saw me grab an Extrawheel trailer.

Two 1.5 litre Nalgene bottles on the bike and two 10 litre Ortlieb bladders in the trailer although, I'm becoming more disposed toward carrying the water in the bikes rear panniers and utilising the trailer for the light and bulky stuff that would have otherwise gone on the bike (for improved trailer handling).

This does leave me a little concerned about the weight over my rear wheel however so nothing cast in stone at the mo.

I'm toying with the idea of doing away with the Nalgenes and getting a frame bag with a water bladder.
Worrying about how this might affect bike handling is whats holding up this decision.

chrisx 01-03-18 01:23 AM


Originally Posted by rifraf (Post 20087104)
getting a frame bag with a water bladder.
Worrying about how this might affect bike handling is whats holding up this decision.

Frame bag gives the best handling, low on a rigid fork also works well.



Originally Posted by Aushiker (Post 20082652)
Thanks for the reminder ... Cyclewerks in New Zealand sell a bottle cage double adaptor which might be an option for some.

https://cdn-asset-mel-1.airsquare.co...A65B3-zoom.jpg

$39.95, ouch


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