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Do Ortlieb E110 hooks fit Ortlieb QL2.1 panniers?

Old 01-29-18, 05:40 PM
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Do Ortlieb E110 hooks fit Ortlieb QL2.1 panniers?

I guess the topic says it all "Do Ortlieb E110 hooks fit Ortlieb QL2.1 panniers?"
I have Tubus Duo front racks on my VWR Patagonia. The bottom tubing is 14mm and the standard lower hook on my Classic Rollers does not in anyway fit over the tubes. I believe it is setup for 10mm tubes. I put a number of small washers on the bolt which allows me to tighten the hook reasonably well over the tube however when you remove the pannier the hook becomes floppy. I found these which allow for 16mm tubes.



from ortlieb but they are for QL1 systems. By chance does anyone know if they fit the newer QL2 QL2.1 systems?

https://www.ortlieb.com/en/e110/

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I don't know. I have front panniers ffom 1999 and 2008. The hardware changed but stayed compatible. I think Ortlieb has reps in the US you could ask (in English).

From their USA website:

General Questions & Concerns: CustomerService@ortliebusa.com
Warranty & Product Specific Questions: ProductService@ortliebusa.com

Edit: Australia! (Fortunately E-mail doesn't care.)

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Give Wayne,at The Touring Store, a call. He will be able to help you out.
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Cheers I will let you know how I go
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Yes, that's for the bottom, not the upper mount. buy and try.
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Going to ride to LBS either this arvo or tomorrow and try and confirm.

Cheers fietsbob,, I only need the lower hook so in theory it should work.

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Have to unscrew the bracket/rail from the bag , first..
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I didn't get to the shop as Mrs had some other ideas for me lol.. Bob do you mean that the pictured bracket rail fits the curved one on the vers 2 Ortliebs?
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they have changed the lower mount rail several times over the years.. I have 2 different ones ..

Above, you show the straight one of my oldest bags,


my newest bag has a pointed foot ball shaped 2 track lower mount,

since then they have begun using a single track, curved lower mount..


the holes through the bag are somewhat different in their location..

you can make more holes then fill the unused ones..(?)


I expect the hardware will all fit thru the slot of any of them, but you have to access the back side of the lower mounting rail

if the (nut) side of the hook is different.. It may, or may not be..
IE You are not getting a guarantee of it will fit, out of me, odds are good, though.


I have only unscrewed the top rails ..

I connected the 2 front bags with webbing, as I use them on a bike with a top of the wheel rack, so I can take them off as 1 thing.

EZ to do, the screws are pointed..




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My front panniers get used on three different racks, each time I switch bikes I have to readjust the pannier hooks. The part that fits under the track, instead of unscrewing the track to access it I usually instead just pry the track up off of the back of the pannier to slide it out.

But if you are only changing the hook and not the track, you probably do not need to remove the track or the part under the track.

I would expect that all of the various hooks screw into the little metal part under the track, that little metal part is in the photo at:
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/luggage/...-hook/?geoc=US

It should be quite easy to do.
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the T nut may be all the same and can just stay in place ...

My newer bags there is a knob to turn on the bottom hook ..takes a lot of turns before the hook loosens up enough to rotate,
the hook itself seems flexible, maybe you don't need a different hook.


the knob has a coin slot, with a quarter coin and a pair of pliers you can get that knob tighter than with just your fingers..




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Originally Posted by Tourist in MSN View Post

But if you are only changing the hook and not the track, you probably do not need to remove the track or the part under the track.

I would expect that all of the various hooks screw into the little metal part under the track, that little metal part is in the photo at:
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/luggage/...-hook/?geoc=US

It should be quite easy to do.
I agree.. it should be easy.. the way those hooks engage and keep from rotating is those button holes and nubs on the back of the hook. Unfortunately that leaves a gap only slightly bigger than 10mm which is too small for the 14mm diam Tubus duo tubes in the lower portion of the rack. If,, like I have done you add washers to make the gap 15mm or so to fit the tubes those nubs and holes no longer engage and the hook swivels (when you take off the bags)and that is where my problem is.





This is not my bike but shows one with the hook on but really stressed.


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Your found lower picture looks like what is on my orange front roller classic..

Bolt; hex head 5x.8mm.







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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
Your found lower picture looks like what is on my orange front roller classic..

Bolt; hex head 5x.8mm.


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For the Hook to be secure those two pieces with nubs and holes must match up (as you know) in the found picture there is a lot of stress on that hook. I wouldn't want any weight in the bag with that sort of stress.. The gap is 10mm measured on mine between the hook and the plate with the tube being 14mm in diameter which is why I posted the replacement hook question in the first place as it is 16mm in gap spacing ARRRRGH you would think German bags would fit on German racks without modification. Thanks for the help so far

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Just saying... hard to do actual stress analysis from an on line picture.. 14 -10 is = 4mm, you are worrying about a small difference..

My town is on a popular touring route, see a fair number of bikes with that rack and Ortleb bags .. with out issues,

You may be pre worrying... lots of posts on here have been doing that..
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