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Old 04-17-18, 01:04 PM
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I thought this was ‘touring’ what do people do when touring. Odd forum response. Must be how i worded my sentences. Being in a hurry or such. You people motivate me to take pics and videos along the way since it seems like we are different dimensions This 15liter saddle bag is very very roomy.
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Originally Posted by jefnvk
I don't think I could fit that all in a 15L backpack, let alone an odd shaped saddlebag, especially so with even a small sleeping bag. This is also assuming you have no issue tossing a muddy and wet tarp and rope and stakes in the same place as your sleeping gear or clothes. I've got a 10L, it is a chore to get two light raincoats, some snacks, and an off-bike hat in it.

Maybe 15L is more voluminous in the dimension the OP lives is than it is in the dimension the rest of us live in. (See immediately above.)
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Originally Posted by Karman321
I thought this was ‘touring’ what do people do when touring. Odd forum response. Must be how i worded my sentences. Being in a hurry or such. You people motivate me to take pics and videos along the way since it seems like we are different dimensions This 15liter saddle bag is very very roomy.
People do a lot of stuff, just not that many here that make it a point to take as little as possible (at least to the level you want to).

This is what I did last time, while camping and cooking my meals, admittedly with not enough beer in the blue bag:


And the time before while credit card touring at hotels and eating out, admittedly with far more clothes and bottles of beer stashed in those panniers than anyone really needed:


In any case, lightweight was of no concern. I wasn't in a race.
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Originally Posted by TheLibrarian
East coast tour seems like one of the worst.
Riding from CT or NY to FL doesn't necessarily require riding along the coast proper. My last north-south tour was from Brattleboro, VT to Philly via NW CT. Maybe have even passed by your way as I came into Hyde Park and crossed the Hudson via the former railroad bridge.


Quite a lot of bucolic riding. And you can reach downtown Philly from certain suburban areas almost completely on trails.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/105349...57670896460903


Don't see much congestion whenever I do one of my favorite little three-days home from Port Jervis:


https://www.flickr.com/photos/105349...57659421384310
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Maybe 15L is more voluminous in the dimension the OP lives is than it is in the dimension the rest of us live in. (See immediately above.)
thats what im saying! maybe i have obtained microscopic sleeping bags and rain jackets. (7mesh oro gore-tex) jacket is amazing btw! a merino wool base layer and that jacket combined or separate can handle temps from 30 to 80 and above 80 is even easier. in this bag i have spare room for fruits and food as I've said.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Riding from CT or NY to FL doesn't necessarily require riding along the coast proper. My last north-south tour was from Brattleboro, VT to Philly via NW CT. Maybe have even passed by your way as I came into Hyde Park and crossed the Hudson via the former railroad bridge.


Quite a lot of bucolic riding. And you can reach downtown Philly from certain suburban areas almost completely on trails.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/105349...57670896460903


Don't see much congestion whenever I do one of my favorite little three-days home from Port Jervis:


https://www.flickr.com/photos/105349...57659421384310
spectacular pictures! wow, what were those shot on?
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Originally Posted by Karman321
thats what im saying! maybe i have obtained microscopic sleeping bags and rain jackets. (7mesh oro gore-tex) jacket is amazing btw! a merino wool base layer and that jacket combined or separate can handle temps from 30 to 80 and above 80 is even easier. in this bag i have spare room for fruits and food as I've said.
So try this, lay out all your gear, put it into one (?) bag, see if it fits. I use a handlebar bag, frame bag, fork cages/bags and a rear rack with small bags usually for supplies and end of day beer. What works for me is different areas for food/clothes/tools/cooking/ sleeping stuff. Organizations is key for me. Lots of experienced riders here. Usually helpful if asked nicely. Got a pack list? Cheers.
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Originally Posted by Karman321
....This 15liter saddle bag is very very roomy.
15L = one standard rear pannier.
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Originally Posted by saddlesores
15L = one standard rear pannier.
How much more does one need when one has microscopic sleeping bags, rain jackets and a microscopic 8'x9' tarp?
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Originally Posted by Karman321
thats what im saying! maybe i have obtained microscopic sleeping bags and rain jackets. (7mesh oro gore-tex) jacket is amazing btw! a merino wool base layer and that jacket combined or separate can handle temps from 30 to 80 and above 80 is even easier. in this bag i have spare room for fruits and food as I've said.
You seem to have a good handle on ultralight touring, so I await your ride report when it is finished! I could not do what you are doing, so I have nothing else to add expertise-wise.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
How much more does one need when one has microscopic sleeping bags, rain jackets and a microscopic 8'x9' tarp?
kitchen sink of course!
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Originally Posted by saddlesores
kitchen sink of course!
A .2L side pocket would take care of that.
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Enjoy the banter. Yes I need to do some planning. I see that warmshowers is somewhat active and can be an amazing resource if planned out right. Thanks all for the thoughts
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This was just a 6 day trip. I felt I was at a minimal load gear-wise. I COULD have used a lighter tent but wanted a free standing, so I took this one.
I took no cooking gear.
Add a couple oranges/apples/bananas/dates and three water bottles and you just added 10 pounds. I could probably pare it down a bit more, but I'm not sure what more to leave out. I didn't even have a rain jacket, just a nylon windbreaker and got soaked the first day (right as I was crossing that bridge the bottom dropped out) Had no spare clothes other than cycling shorts & underwear.

I can't imagine riding the distance being discussed, unsupported, with just one 15 liter bag but what do I know? As stated, I'm new to this.

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Originally Posted by Karman321
You too, thank you. Helpful people. I see I should take route 1 down. ‘Officially’ covers most of my travels. I wonder what the route consist of ... on the side of the highway, or more senic roads mhmmm

I rode ACA/USBR 1 from ~DC to Richmond, mostly quiet roads & avoids big highways, very nice. The route is amazingly rural despite being fairly close to the busy I-95 corridor.
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Originally Posted by DropBarFan
I rode ACA/USBR 1 from ~DC to Richmond, mostly quiet roads & avoids big highways, very nice. The route is amazingly rural despite being fairly close to the busy I-95 corridor.
This comment demonstrates the need for clarity in posts. When the OP wrote "route 1" I thought he meant U.S. 1, the highway, which goes from the NYC area to FL.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
This comment demonstrates the need for clarity in posts. When the OP wrote "route 1" I thought he meant U.S. 1, the highway, which goes from the NYC area to FL.
My apologies, don’t assume it makes an ass out of u and me hehe. I’m very ignorant on the topic but yes I meant the bike route not the motorway
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Originally Posted by Karman321
My apologies, don’t assume it makes an ass out of u and me hehe.

I didn't assume anything, much less assume "it" (whatever it is) makes an ass out of "u and me." (Proper punctuation is the difference between "Let's eat, grandma." and "Let's eat grandma.) I interpreted the language you chose to mean A instead of B. Had you put a smidgen of additional effort into your post you would have removed any ambiguity. Instead of trying to be cute, try being helpful by being thorough. It will result in more helpful responses.


Buh-bye. Good luck with your trip.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
I didn't assume anything, much less assume "it" (whatever it is) makes an ass out of "u and me." (Proper punctuation is the difference between "Let's eat, grandma." and "Let's eat grandma.) I interpreted the language you chose to mean A instead of B. Had you put a smidgen of additional effort into your post you would have removed any ambiguity. Instead of trying to be cute, try being helpful by being thorough. It will result in more helpful responses.


Buh-bye. Good luck with your trip.
Oh wow, thank you!
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Best thing is to try an overnighter to see how your planned load and camp works out, especially if it rains. Its amazing how most people discover items they need or can jettison.

Don't forget: zip lock plastic bags, zip ties, and some gaffer's tape.
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Originally Posted by Karman321
Thanks for the responses perhaps I shouldn’t have brought up the toothbrush. That was just an example as to how lightweight id like to travel. I might not cut the toothbrush but my bike alone weighs 13.5 lbs so I already got the hard part lightweight (could lose 5 lbs myself) but that will likely happen on this trip. I plan on eating from places on my route. Fast food, restaurants, grocery stores to buy some real fruits and veggies etc. I also plan on using warmshowers however I know I can’t rely on people, so the discrete (camping) sleeping for a couple hours then back on the bike sounds okay to me. So far I have
Electronics-
Phone, wahoo bolt, earbuds, usb battery chArger, charging cables
Toiletries-
Soap, face wash, face moisturizer, toothbrush, toothpaste, small towel
Sleeping-
Tarp, rope, stakes, sleeping bag, inflatable pillow. I see can make an enclosed tent with the use of one tree.
Clothes-
Assos skinsuit, 2 pairs of socks/boxers , 1 merino long sleeve shirt and one 1 pair of pants.

What I really want to know is what kind of landmarks should I stop for or cities should I hit. I have
cash and credit card on me so it’s not a major deal to get an Airbnb or motel if I absolutely have to but I’m trying to keep that to the minimum. Anyone who knows about bike trails or routes for a road bike from nyc to Florida please chime in thanks!
Originally Posted by Karman321
thats what im saying! maybe i have obtained microscopic sleeping bags and rain jackets. (7mesh oro gore-tex) jacket is amazing btw! a merino wool base layer and that jacket combined or separate can handle temps from 30 to 80 and above 80 is even easier. in this bag i have spare room for fruitas and food as I've said.
Love seeing folks interested in pushing the extreme limits (sacrifice comfort and screw budgets) you should be weighting in at <20lbs of base weight (bike and gear excl. consumables) which would blow away the 28lbs base weight of the next lightest bike tourer I've ever [previously] seen here - sexy cyclist. 15L is tight but feasible for that gear list - I've done overnight hikes from a 10L fanny pack (+3L for consumables in bottle pockets). I had no extra changes of clothing, but much more comfortable accommodations (shelter, bedding, kitchen/bar). Only major must haves I see (and mentioned by others) are a sleeping pad and ground sheet which could be done for 0.5L/lb with a Klymit Xlite and Polycryo, and arguably a 3oz S2S Nano bug netting for the Southeastern hospitality crew (bugs)..... although that may not be effective for all the poisonous snake and gator warnings you tend to see down there .

Do you have pics of your loaded bike and a campsite example?

Also, that's gotta be pricey gear.... what do you have for security? How about tools, at least tire repair? Are these part of the bike weight? (I see road bikes in the 10lbs range).
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Sounds like you have a clear philosophy to travel light and fast. It's a bit different from how most here choose to tour I think, but that's no mark against it. I look forward to hearing how the tour goes for you in the end.

But I'm most interested in this 13.5lb bike. It's not a custom Spin by any chance is it?
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Originally Posted by DanBell
Sounds like you have a clear philosophy to travel light and fast. It's a bit different from how most here choose to tour I think, but that's no mark against it. I look forward to hearing how the tour goes for you in the end.

But I'm most interested in this 13.5lb bike. It's not a custom Spin by any chance is it?
thanks for the lack of negativity, I’m not sure what a custom Spin is? My bike is Taiwan carbon fiber everything with ultegra 6800, will figure out how to post pictures soon. Thanks everyone
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Originally Posted by reppans
Love seeing folks interested in pushing the extreme limits (sacrifice comfort and screw budgets) you should be weighting in at <20lbs of base weight (bike and gear excl. consumables) which would blow away the 28lbs base weight of the next lightest bike tourer I've ever [previously] seen here - sexy cyclist. 15L is tight but feasible for that gear list - I've done overnight hikes from a 10L fanny pack (+3L for consumables in bottle pockets). I had no extra changes of clothing, but much more comfortable accommodations (shelter, bedding, kitchen/bar). Only major must haves I see (and mentioned by others) are a sleeping pad and ground sheet which could be done for 0.5L/lb with a Klymit Xlite and Polycryo, and arguably a 3oz S2S Nano bug netting for the Southeastern hospitality crew (bugs)..... although that may not be effective for all the poisonous snake and gator warnings you tend to see down there .

Do you have pics of your loaded bike and a campsite example?

Also, that's gotta be pricey gear.... what do you have for security? How about tools, at least tire repair? Are these part of the bike weight? (I see road bikes in the 10lbs range).
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Originally Posted by Karman321
....I’m not sure what a custom Spin is? ...
it's a super lightweight lightning fast custom crabon bike that comes with corporate sponsorship, unlimited photoshop rights.......and free sunglasses!


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