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Warm Showers experience.
because we live in peoria illinois we dont get many chances to host tourists on warm showers. in fact our first opportunity came just a couple of days ago. it was a great experience and i would reccomend it to anyone. opening your home to a bike tourist is a really cool way to partake in a little slice of humanity.
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I hosted for about five years. Because I live close to an international airport I got lots of guests. Mostly good to very good experience with only a few who were either poor company or unappreciative. I used it only once myself as a guest.
I gave it up as I was too popular and needed space for my own touring and life in general. |
we definitly are not in a popular tourist area. i can imagine it getting old. but since i cant tour all the time it was fun to vicariously tour for a bit. also when you are in the middle of a tour its amazing how good your condition gets. this kid rode me into the ground when he was here.
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Been hosting and guesting for years. A great experience for all the things you say. Hope it can be maintained, meaning guests and hosts, continue to find it mutually gratifying.
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Until a guest steals a pair of sunglasses from you. :innocent:
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 20361227)
Until a guest steals a pair of sunglasses from you. :innocent:
I'm amazed warm showers works so well as it does. Gives you faith in humanity but you still need to be wary. |
I was concerned when there was a guy asking for lodging who had pled guilty to serious sexual assault charges as a fraternity officer in college. I contacted WarmShowers office and they said it was not their responsibility to vet users. I found their response highly cavalier given the serious problems share-sites have had with safety. 99.9% of the encounters may be perfectly fine, but it only takes one. What troubled me was this was a person with a verifiable, dangerous offense - and WarmShowers basically said, "So what?" I have chosen not to host since then.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 20361227)
Until a guest steals a pair of sunglasses from you. :innocent:
Now, at my new place, they pretty much have the run of the basement. They have access to all of my tools so I pretty much need to just trust they won't take them. I try to adopt the philosophy of an Eskimo that I saw interviewed for a documentary. Everyone dries their fish outside their home. The interviewer asked the man if he was concerned about the fish being stolen. The man's response "if they need it that badly then they are welcome to it" . A wise man but his advice would be sometimes difficult to live up to. Or you could adopt the philosophy of he who steals my purse steals trash. Pretty much true in my case. I don't have all that much in my house that is worth awful much. ;) |
Originally Posted by raria
(Post 20361246)
Or the host steals from the guest!
I'm amazed warm showers works so well as it does. Gives you faith in humanity but you still need to be wary. That night be bought me dinner. Turns out he lost his teeth on his transam. He was just starting, it was a pouring rain, he was on a bike trail. His vision was very limited because of the rain. He slammed right into a sofa that someone had thrown out, crashed and lost all of his teeth yet decided to continue his trip anyway after being checked out by a doctor. He was a heck of a nice uy. I did have one guy I suspected was homeless but using warmshowers as a place to stay. He came from a previous host not even 20 miles away. I ended up calling the host ans he suspected the same thing. For the most part my experiences have been positive as both host and guest. I have had people stay with me from all over the world. Including one guest from China. Most of my guest seem to come from South Korea for some reason. I have had 3. One of them was a monk. Koreans must really love the US. ;) I have also stayed at a few warmshowers ./ couch surfing hosts in Italy. That is a lot of fun. You get to see how people live and you find out not much different than you except they speak a different language. ;) |
I was escorting my monk guest to Steubenville, OH via the panhandle trail. He was half my age but wow was he slow! I was ahead when I noticed two figures with white hoods and wearing combat boots steep out onto the trail. We were passing through West Virginia so of course my first thought was Klu Klux Klan members! :eek: I thought ok great. Now they are going to beat the hell out of both of us.
I waited for my guest and tried to explain these people could be dangerous. It was important he stick close, ride as fast as he can and not to look at them. Maybe we could get by without incident. Of course he was still slow. :( I was getting worried. We were getting closer I I could see that looked to be parachute pants. A little closer. Wait a second their frames look awfully slight to be men. If they are men I could probably take at least one if there is trouble. A little closer. Wait! They are women and they are wearing habits! When we caught up to them, I stopped and explained who I thought they were. They got a big kick out of that. Turns out they were from a local monastery associated with the Franciscan university in town. Amazing how your imagination can run away when you let it. ;) We got to Steubenville in one piece. We were meet by the press. It was a big deal in that town. They learned of our trip because I contacted Fort Steuben to see if we can camp at the fort. The manager told us that was not possible but arranged for us to stay at a local church. One of the parishioners is Korean. She came to the church and prepared a traditional Korean meal for us. It was very good. |
Originally Posted by jamawani
(Post 20361352)
I was concerned when there was a guy asking for lodging who had pled guilty to serious sexual assault charges as a fraternity officer in college. I contacted WarmShowers office and they said it was not their responsibility to vet users. I found their response highly cavalier given the serious problems share-sites have had with safety. 99.9% of the encounters may be perfectly fine, but it only takes one. What troubled me was this was a person with a verifiable, dangerous offense - and WarmShowers basically said, "So what?" I have chosen not to host since then.
I had a couple of dodgy guests many years ago when there was no feedback tool on the warmshowers site. I cancelled my membership as a result. When I learned a few years later that a means of writing and viewing feedback had been added, I rejoined. I have had 100% positive experiences since then. I don't agree to host anyone until I check their feedback. I also refuse to host anyone who is not touring by bike. (I've had several hosting requests from non-cyclists.) |
I wish warmshowers would adopt some of the controls of couch surfing where costs and guests are interviewed by local certified members.
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Originally Posted by spinnaker
(Post 20361360)
Are you certain it was intentional? When I have guest I make sure nothing of mine is in their defined AO. Just so there is no mistake with them walking of with something of mine they think is theirs At my old place they had a corner of my living room that I designated as the place to stow their gear.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 20362078)
Guest arrived without sunglasses and asked to borrow a pair. Before the guest left two days later the host asked for the glasses back. Guest was evasive then said he forgot where in the house he put them. Guest leaves. Host never finds the glasses. Guest is later seen in a video wearing the glasses. Sounds intentional to me. The host certainly thought it was. BTW...That's not the only thing the guest stole during that trip. And that's all I've got to say about that.
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Well to all you who have had a bad experience, sorry. As a touring cyclist, I used to "couch surf" before that site was ever created. Then that site among others came along. About 10 yrs ago I started noticing that responses were becoming less frequent. It went from one response for every 1 or 2 requests sent to one for every 10. I no longer use couchsurfing. I've never tried Warm Showers, but have always heard good things about it. And as a person who lives on their bike (a nice euphemism for the H word), I do not steal. We are not all like that. I could care less about the crap made by exploited labor in peoples' homes. Keep your Mercedes. Keep your garbage. Keep your screwed up way of living. Oh, and I have my fair share of strange host stories too! ;)
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Originally Posted by travelinhobo
(Post 20362752)
Well to all you who have had a bad experience, sorry. As a touring cyclist, I used to "couch surf" before that site was ever created. Then that site among others came along. About 10 yrs ago I started noticing that responses were becoming less frequent. It went from one response for every 1 or 2 requests sent to one for every 10. I no longer use couchsurfing. I've never tried Warm Showers, but have always heard good things about it. And as a person who lives on their bike (a nice euphemism for the H word), I do not steal. We are not all like that. I could care less about the crap made by exploited labor in peoples' homes. Keep your Mercedes. Keep your garbage. Keep your screwed up way of living. Oh, and I have my fair share of strange host stories too! ;)
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Originally Posted by travelinhobo
(Post 20362752)
Well to all you who have had a bad experience, sorry. As a touring cyclist, I used to "couch surf" before that site was ever created. Then that site among others came along. About 10 yrs ago I started noticing that responses were becoming less frequent. It went from one response for every 1 or 2 requests sent to one for every 10. I no longer use couchsurfing. I've never tried Warm Showers, but have always heard good things about it. And as a person who lives on their bike (a nice euphemism for the H word), I do not steal. We are not all like that. I could care less about the crap made by exploited labor in peoples' homes. Keep your Mercedes. Keep your garbage. Keep your screwed up way of living. Oh, and I have my fair share of strange host stories too! ;)
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My observations...
As a host, I enjoyed most of our guest's visits. I liked giving back especially after all the hospitality I have experienced when touring. Since I moved to Tallahassee I am very close to the Southern Tier. There are far more tourists here, but there are also more people who I think are abusing the system. I got the impression that there were a number of guys who stayed in the area hopping from one host to another, staying several days or a week at each one. Personally I expect folks to typically stay one night and be on their way the next day, if they need to stay longer that is fine, but it should be negotiated up front. I guess I could put it in my profile that stays are limited to one night, but the guy who soured me on hosting via WS had other issues which I won't go in to as well. I will still invite tourists to stay if I see them in the area near the end of the day, but have stopped hosting via WS. As a guest, I have stayed with a lot of hosts who I just met by chance or knew from a forum, but have used WS only a couple times. I seldom know where I will want to stop for the night until I get there. Most WS hosts want some warning about when you will be there. My habit of deciding the day's stopping point at the last minute means that I may decide to stop before I get to them or decide to ride on to the next town. That rules out staying with WS hosts. I do find it useful to have a place to stay the first night of a tour where I fly in late in the day. I'd also call a WS host if I needed assistance of some sort in their town. I have had a WS hold my bike case for me for a loop tour, but I usually don't do loop tours. |
Originally Posted by spinnaker
(Post 20362136)
Weird.
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I've only hosted so far. I haven't had a bad experience yet. I have had some interesting people stay with me. I was going to try and stay as a guest recently on a short overnight tour but had to cancel when I got ill.
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I met so many great people through this site it's ridiculous. Way better response rate than Couchsurfing ever was, too. I was a guest a lot, but haven't been able to host yet because my roommates aren't comfortable with it. I gotta move out... :speedy:
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