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Old 06-16-18, 05:48 PM
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Urgent: Take front fender or no? Willamette Valley

I am about ready to ship my bike for my upcoming tour of the Willamette Valley leaving from Portland . I need to make a decision on sending my front fender. Because I might need to rent a car:

See related thread
Smallest car for a large frame touring bike?

I don't want the hassle of removing it and putting it back on just to get it in the car.

So should I just keep the front fender at home? I will be on all paved surface and the long term forecast says no rain. I have lots of miles in the rain on my old bike with no fenders at all so I am opting to save the hassle for me and the bike shop in Portland and just leave the thing at home.

Bike goes out tomorrow night so I need to make a quick decision.

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I just took the front fenders off 4 bikes while packaging them for shipping. It took me less than 5 minutes to remove each fender, and will take about the same to reinstall. Depending on the type of fender you have, it may not be a big deal.

Due to a family emergency, I had to rent a car midway through a tour. We put 6 panniers, 2 rackpacks, 2 barbags, and 2 fender equipped bikes into a Toyota Camry. I did take the fenders off in this situation. My point is that a front fender will not make that much difference. You are pretty safe without fenders in the Willamette Valley. The roads are pretty clean.




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Well it looks like you answered my other thread in this thread. Thanks for both. Looks like I will need to take both wheels off to get it into a Carmry.

I pretty much figured that since I used to own a Solara and they are pretty much the same car trunk wise.

Bike is already packed with the rear fender in place so I will likely just take it then take the darn thing off if I have to.
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Originally Posted by spinnaker
Well it looks like you answered my other thread in this thread. Thanks for both. Looks like I will need to take both wheels off to get it into a Carmry.

I pretty much figured that since I used to own a Solara and they are pretty much the same car trunk wise.

Bike is already packed with the rear fender in place so I will likely just take it then take the darn thing off if I have to.
I think that if you took the front wheel off, and put the rear seat backs down you should be able to get your bike in a Camry without removing the rear wheel.
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Leave it

It looks like a good week coming up. Id leave the fender if its just for rain.

I live in portland. Just wondering, where are you going?
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Light rain is always possible, but you're unlikely to get much more heavy rain until September.

-I'd leave fenders home.
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Originally Posted by madscot13
It looks like a good week coming up. Id leave the fender if its just for rain.

I live in portland. Just wondering, where are you going?
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Light rain is always possible, but you're unlikely to get much more heavy rain until September.

-I'd leave fenders home.
I actually leave from Portland on the 27th. Just down the Willamette Valley. Follow the bikeway kinda of sort of.

I will pick up the bike at Bike Gallery. Do a quick tour of the river paths (been there before) then head on down the Trolley Trail to Oregon City. I might stop at the rail museum alont the way.

Cliff has already read this ugly story through PM so he can skip it,

Nice simple trip. I even canceled out a side trip to Columbia River Gorge and/or Crater Lake just to keep it simple. The train thing might throw a monkey wrench into that simple plan.

The purpose of the trip was really two fold.

1. Get me back into touring. I have not toured in 3 years (due to family and medical issues). Plus I have never done a long tour solo. I wanted to keep it nice easy and simple. This tour seemed to fit that bill.

2. It sets me up to take the California Zephyr back home,. Something I have been wanting to do. I tried figuring out some more exciting trips to get to the Zephyr but they really did not quaify for my simple and/or easy requirement that I had. At least not that I could figure out.
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Are you using a rear rack? If so, personally Id much rather have a front fender and let the rack(assuming platform or put a piece of plastic over the top) act as a rear fender. The rear is always the problem fitting into cars anyway. If no rack, maybe use one of those cheap seatpost mount quick release rear fenders for a short trip, where fitting the bike into a small car might be an issue. Remove a front wheel, and the bike is much smaller. Remove a rear wheel, the fender makes the bike just as difficult to fit into a car. In any case, another vote for skipping the front fender. Id quick pull the rear fender before shipping too.
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Originally Posted by spinnaker
I actually leave from Portland on the 27th. Just down the Willamette Valley. Follow the bikeway kinda of sort of.

I will pick up the bike at Bike Gallery. Do a quick tour of the river paths (been there before) then head on down the Trolley Trail to Oregon City. I might stop at the rail museum alont the way.
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Nice simple trip. I even canceled out a side trip to Columbia River Gorge and/or Crater Lake just to keep it simple. The train thing might throw a monkey wrench into that simple plan.
If you decide to rent a car, I believe the hour or so drive to Hood River along the Gorge is always worth it. Im not sure if Old 84 is open for riding, and I don't personally like biking on actual highway 84. The Columbia River Gorge is my favorite place on Earth.

PM me if you run into troubles. I work an odd schedule but i have bike rack if things go that way.
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I've driven along the highway a few times recently, but haven't ever ridden that way. I think parts of the path are open, parts are still closed. It looks like they're probably doing path improvements along with the repairs, so it should be good in a couple of years.

Hopefully ODOT has a list of what is open or closed.
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
I've driven along the highway a few times recently, but haven't ever ridden that way. I think parts of the path are open, parts are still closed. It looks like they're probably doing path improvements along with the repairs, so it should be good in a couple of years.

Hopefully ODOT has a list of what is open or closed.

Heard the same. That is what I am glad I cancels out on that part. A bucket list item is to do that scenic road plus Mt. Hood
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The POINT - Intercity Transit has a big cargo hold under it Bike may not need boxing , *

and the ODOT Talgo Train between the 2, is for commuting, and is not the same needs from bike users,
as the Amtrak Coast Starlight.

both can be connected at Union station, a short distance from the Portland, Greyhound bus depot.
* out here, that route, does not need the bike boxed .. The POINT - Intercity Transit


Zip tie the front mudguard over the front tire, packed along side the padding wrapped frame ..
which to get from PA to OR, the flight will need boxing the bike..

Via Bike Flights you could ship it to a Bike shop in Portland, and for a fee,they will make it ready to ride

LBS out Here does similar for OR coast and transcontinental touring cyclists..


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Originally Posted by madscot13
If you decide to rent a car, I believe the hour or so drive to Hood River along the Gorge is always worth it. Im not sure if Old 84 is open for riding, and I don't personally like biking on actual highway 84. The Columbia River Gorge is my favorite place on Earth.

PM me if you run into troubles. I work an odd schedule but i have bike rack if things go that way.
Yeah I won't have time even for a rental. I get in at noon and need to be in Oregon City that evening to keep up with my schedule.
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Originally Posted by madscot13
If you decide to rent a car, I believe the hour or so drive to Hood River along the Gorge is always worth it. Im not sure if Old 84 is open for riding, and I don't personally like biking on actual highway 84. The Columbia River Gorge is my favorite place on Earth.

PM me if you run into troubles. I work an odd schedule but i have bike rack if things go that way.
Another thought: If you are renting a car in Eugene, and have not been to Crater Lake, it is worth the trip. It is sort of on the way. You can also come out at the south end of the Park, go esat to Highway 97, and take the scenic way to Sacramento. You will not lose too much time, and the scenery is worth the effort. Highway 97 intersectss with I-5 at Weed, CA.
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Historic Columbia River Highway trail project moving along - KPTV - FOX 12
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Another thought: If you are renting a car in Eugene, and have not been to Crater Lake, it is worth the trip. It is sort of on the way. You can also come out at the south end of the Park, go esat to Highway 97, and take the scenic way to Sacramento. You will not lose too much time, and the scenery is worth the effort. Highway 97 intersectss with I-5 at Weed, CA.
I was considering that. Maybe stay at Ft. Klamath the first night. Then doing a quick tour of crater lake. Hopefully I would have time to also see the rail museum in Sacramento.

But hopefully that darn train will be running and I won't need to worry about the extra planning.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
The POINT - Intercity Transit has a big cargo hold under it Bike may not need boxing , *

and the ODOT Talgo Train between the 2, is for commuting, and is not the same needs from bike users,
as the Amtrak Coast Starlight.

both can be connected at Union station, a short distance from the Portland, Greyhound bus depot.
* out here, that route, does not need the bike boxed .. The POINT - Intercity Transit


Zip tie the front mudguard over the front tire, packed along side the padding wrapped frame ..
which to get from PA to OR, the flight will need boxing the bike..

Via Bike Flights you could ship it to a Bike shop in Portland, and for a fee,they will make it ready to ride

LBS out Here does similar for OR coast and transcontinental touring cyclists..


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I am coming from Portland. I need to get to Sacramento from Eugene to catch the California Zephyr. But thanks for the tip on Greyhound and bike. I will check that out.
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
Light rain is always possible, but you're unlikely to get much more heavy rain until September.

-I'd leave fenders home.

IRL how it works...I leave the fenders at home, and get drenched...I bring the fenders, and it is blue skies and sunny weather and birds singing.


Ma Nature is a troll.
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IRL how it works...I leave the fenders at home, and get drenched...I bring the fenders, and it is blue skies and sunny weather and birds singing.


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LOL Same for rain gear.

Well the bike is packed up and in the back of my car ready to ship first tomorrow. I left the fender out.
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LOL Same for rain gear.

Well the bike is packed up and in the back of my car ready to ship first tomorrow. I left the fender out.

[MEANWHILE AT A SECURE BUNKER AT NOAA]

[METEOROLOGIST # 1 ] Oh look...the cold-front just changed course...
[METEOROLOGIST # 2 ] It should NOT be able to do that
[METEOROLOGIST # 1 ] Those guys in Oregon are so !@#$%^. Hope they have kayaks.
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Amtrak stops at Klamath Falls but it is quite late at night

family, parents, in SF bay area, Lived in Eugene , I used the 'coast starlight' out of Emeryville many times..





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I had planned a trip down to California and flew back from Sacramento rather than take the train as it only took 45minutes to get back. The train looked like an overnight ordeal at best and i had only 8 days before I had to get to work. I believe I had Apex bicycles in Davis ship it back for me. Exceedingly well done. I think the guy's name was Aaron.
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti
IRL how it works...I leave the fenders at home, and get drenched...I bring the fenders, and it is blue skies and sunny weather and birds singing.


Ma Nature is a troll.
I think I must have offended the cycling Gods yesterday.

Today I was out riding, minding my own business. When the sky clouded up, and we got about 1 1/2 hours of rain. Some puddles on the streets.

And, of course, no fenders, no rain gear. T-Shirt and Jeans.

Then it cleared up, and back to normal.

But, even that is more of an exception than the rule. The West Coast really dries up in the summer. But, we do get some rain in June, especially early June.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob
Amtrak stops at Klamath Falls but it is quite late at night

family, parents, in SF bay area, Lived in Eugene , I used the 'coast starlight' out of Emeryville many times..





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Not currently. That is the problem.
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