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Old 07-11-18, 02:37 PM
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Touring endlessly?

Does anyone do that?

I mean, I wonder what would be like to live on a bike full time.

I could rent out my house and sell my car and all my worldy possesion except for bike, and take an endless touring trip across country, across continents, around the world...etc...I want to really see the West Coast...I mean like spend 1 year just riding out there to see everything...not just ride thru...really immerse yourself in the culture and place.
Ride 100 mi/day...ride 50 mi/day...don't ride...just hang out for a few days or weeks...or whatever.

Maybe the income from the rental can sustain a endless touring trip.

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Old 07-11-18, 02:48 PM
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Ask your local homeless person?

At some point, I imagine it ceases to be touring and then becomes living out of a backpack. Doesn't sound particularly enjoyable to me, but whatever floats your boat!
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Old 07-11-18, 02:55 PM
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I mean...I may be able to eat and live pretty well in paid campsites, hostels, etc...because income from the rental...maybe occasionally motel.
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$10k is $27 a day. Probably doable depending on where you are, but still fairly tight on money. I've spent quite a bit of time at hostels, while you can find them cheaper, $15-20 a night is pretty much a lower limit these days. Leaves $7-12 for food and any sort of entertainment. Camping may be cheaper lots of places, but certainly isn't in Michigan. Motels would be a rarity.

I assume your $10k a year is post taxes, post management company to take care of the property while you are gone, post funds going into an account to cover any repairs needed.
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Old 07-11-18, 03:06 PM
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You can Get your pension payments direct deposited,
but you still have to file a tax return every year.. and sign it..

Is your property management company trustworthy, ?
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I think every tour has got to have a start and end and some kind of pupose. Examples:

Going across USA - that'll be x amount of days ... stay there until you get done and then be happy to go home (wherever home is)
Going from Alaska to Tiera del Fuego - that'l be x amount of days and then go home to reload and go again.
Touring Japan - x amount of days etc etc ...

Each tour could be tons of days or very few but each has some kind of structure and purpose. Going home could mean going where the rest of your stuff is or visiting your kids or parents ... I have no idea but that's my sense of touring that makes sense. Just touring forever is probably good for a quick burnout and 10K sounds too low. I would say try for 20K and if You hit 10 K you'll have 1`0 left over to tour more expensive country like Iceland or Norway next time.
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Check out "Downtheroad" .. Tim Travis started riding around the world many years ago. Not sure if he is still cycling . He quit his job, sold everything, and started cycling all over the world . >>> Bicycle Touring Around the World: cycle tourings best bike tour and travel travelogue story
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Also … Check out [color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.87)]Iohan Gueorguiev ….. We hosted him several years ago. He has been cycling all around the world for several years.

>>> Iohan Gueorguiev[/color]
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FWIW, I have met some people traveling in general on an open ended basis. They all had some sort of larger, more normal levels of income generation, whether it be a job that could be performed anywhere, or were living off the interest from some large principal.
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Old 07-11-18, 03:41 PM
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Check out "Downtheroad" .. Tim Travis started riding around the world many years ago. Not sure if he is still cycling .
Tim traveled for somewhat over a decade and is now in Whitefish MT.

Open-ended continuous travel is not for me.

I have been fortunate to take three longer trips:
- 18 months from Prudhoe Bay to Tierra del Fuego (2016-2017)
- 10 months across Russia, through some of China and Thailand (2007)
- 12 months across the US, around Australia and some other places (2001-2002)
I have enjoyed these longer trips because they gave plenty of time to explore and also because the duration is long enough that one essentially establishes different patterns. However, I am also goal-directed enough that these longer trips generally had their own crossing continents type goals. When I started each of these trips, I pretty much had the conclusion date in mind.
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300k could probably get you to 20k per year in interest
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[Iohan is da Bomb


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Also Check out [color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.87)]Iohan Gueorguiev .. We hosted him several years ago. He has been cycling all around the world for several years.

>>> Iohan Gueorguiev[/color]
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Thats the dream and or to find a place to be along the way. Be it RV, boat, bike, motorbike, cars, running or walking. people have been doing it for thousands of years from back when across the ice bridge from Asia and out of Africa. Jack kerouac, hobos with their bindles, explorers, wanderers, and nomads. Costs more money than we imagine though. You need to find the elusive real work from home online thats not a scam or you need to have investments. If the house is paid that should net 5-20 years worth of living like a hobo if you sold it outright but you have to think about the future and retirement especially if you have something. If you got nothing it don't matter as much but your trip is likely to end short. You're lucky to get 2 weeks paid vacation or 3 months as a teacher. Once i churn out some best sellers I'll travel by all means of transportation. Would be nice to have an end point though. I find long rides can be grueling and only tour in my dreams so far.
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Also … Check out Bicycle Touring Pro guy …. He travels all over the world. I don't know how he manages his finances to afford to tour like he does >>>
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[Iohan is da Bomb



Even Iohan needs to take a break from bicycle touring and earn some money. He's currently planting trees in B.C.

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...Maybe the income from the rental can sustain a endless touring trip.
so many maybes. maybe you can find a trustworthy management company. maybe the fees won't eat too much of the income. maybe property insurance and landlord liability insurance won't be too high. maybe the place can be rented, never empty. maybe the crackhead tenants don't burn the place down....

and you still need to pay your obamacare tax if in the usa....that's what - $1000/month? or buy travel insurance outside that covers repatriation, emergency flights and property loss.

you could sell your house, put it into a safe investment at 3-6%. if outside the usa, average budget of $25/day excluding airfare....do the maff.
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While on a tour in 1977 my friend and I met up with a band of real hippies. They lived out of their van and had been traveling the USA for a year working odd jobs to get enough money to live on. They couldn't imagine living out of a tent for a year, let alone a week or two like Pete and I were doing. I imagine it ain't so glam.

A kid in my senior year lived out of a tent at a park just to prove he could do it. Winter came and he moved back home.
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I think, I would try it for a solid month before I detached myself from my present situation
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Try taking a tour first. The Katy Trail would be a good start.
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and you still need to pay your obamacare tax if in the usa....that's what - $1000/month? or buy travel insurance outside that covers repatriation, emergency flights and property loss.

you could sell your house, put it into a safe investment at 3-6%. if outside the usa, average budget of $25/day excluding airfare....do the maff.
There is no longer a penalty for not having insurance.

And one could always bring one's instrument along to earn a few $s.
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There is no longer a penalty for not having insurance.

And one could always bring one's instrument along to earn a few $s.
no obamacare penalty, but still need health insurance, right? haven't been back in the usa since nought-five...what does travel insurance there cost?

i like the idea of the katy as an endless tour, just go and live the katy, experience the katy, BE the katy!
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no obamacare penalty, but still need health insurance, right? haven't been back in the usa since nought-five...what does travel insurance there cost?
I would say it's a need, but plenty of people apparently don't feel the same. Maybe I feel the way I do because I have assets I'd like to keep for other purposes.

Have no idea what travel insurance costs.
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I would say it's a need, but plenty of people apparently don't feel the same....
my god man! of course it's a need! let's say you're cruising the katy, wearing classic denim, playing your instrument, and get caught in the rain! that's deadfully dangerous, man!

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Yes, it's doable and you could do it, however as I pointed out to an Italian who is motorcycling around the world...when a vacation turns into permanacy, there's nothing special about it. As for your idea of touring the west coast, I do live on my bike (didn't start by choice and while I do have a means of making money, it's rather minimal) so I can tell you that 25% of the country's homeless "reside" in California. Even if you look like you're touring, there are a hell of a lot of people here who don't have a clue about bike touring and will just take you as one of us. That means you get ignored and snubbed. It's quite an education. But that all said, I've been able to experience things, see wildlife, and visit places that never would have if I weren't in this situation!

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Lots and lots of people have and are doing multiple year touring. Getting by on $27 a day is quite feasible outside 1st world countries but you must cook your own food. Look over on CrazyGuyonaBike for journals by Jeff Kruys. He has done several multi-year tours. Probably my favorite journal is Peter Gostelow's "A Long Ride Home". Great writing and photography. Facebook as entire groups devoted solely to sojourners, i.e. multi-year riders.

Regarding insurance. Sometimes, you can get travel/health insurance in other countries. I think you can get some in the UK specifically for cycling trips. Also, healthcare is frequently quite inexpensive in 3rd world countries and so long as you do not need top shelf healthcare you should be OK. Granted, if you have some rare heart disorder or cutting edge medicine or something, healthcare in a 1st world country may be better but for 85% of the "normal" healthcare, the larger city healthcare in other countries is fine. In fact, frequently the doctors are trained in 1st world schools and return home.
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