Originally Posted by fietsbob
(Post 20529002)
more efficient production wins...just QBP/Surly uses Maxway , that hires a zillion people skilled as TIG welders.
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Done any TIG Welding?
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Originally Posted by djb
(Post 20522083)
I dunno, no reason an alu fork wont work fine. Cannondale made great touring bikes in alu for ages.
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Originally Posted by djb
(Post 20522083)
I dunno, no reason an alu fork wont work fine. Cannondale made great touring bikes in alu for ages.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
(Post 20530465)
Werent Cdale forks steel though? My '93 T700 frame has a steel fork.
-------HA, just went down and took my little magnet that I use to remove bearings from hubs when I overhaul them, and sure enough, the fork is steel! kinda funny, here is this Cannondale reknowned alum touring bike, uses a steel fork, where this reknowned Trek touring bike is now the inverse. |
Originally Posted by djb
(Post 20531059)
good question. Thought they were all alum but maybe wrong. I actually have a T800 or something of a friend in my house , so can check. Bike is from about 2002-3-4 or thereabouts.
-------HA, just went down and took my little magnet that I use to remove bearings from hubs when I overhaul them, and sure enough, the fork is steel! kinda funny, here is this Cannondale reknowned alum touring bike, uses a steel fork, where this reknowned Trek touring bike is now the inverse. |
I wonder if we'll see the 520 axed in a few years? These changes aren't in keeping with what makes a touring bike a good touring bike IMHO, feel free to disagree. It'll do the job but it's too many compromises. |
Originally Posted by BigAura
(Post 20529065)
More than likely your efficiency is coming from robots, and not a zillion "skilled-people" welders. Other than for highly gifted artisans, welding-skills have no future, as a way to earn a living.
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Originally Posted by Ghazmh
(Post 20531288)
I wonder if we'll see the 520 axed in a few years? These changes aren't in keeping with what makes a touring bike a good touring bike IMHO, feel free to disagree. It'll do the job but it's too many compromises. *Lieutenant Dan was named by my wife after I returned home from bringing him to my LBS to be fixed. She saw my sad face and asked what was wrong with my bike. When I told her it needed a new front fork, she replied, "Don't worry, Hun. Lieutenant Dan will be home soon." When I gave her a confused look she replied in her best Forrest Gump voice, "Lieutenant Dan! You got new legs!" |
Originally Posted by linus
(Post 20531491)
Jeez. Check stats before you speak.
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Originally Posted by Bassmanbob
(Post 20533846)
This is my concern. I have a hunter green 2015 520, and I love it. It's got a heavy ride, but it loves to move. He rides like a nimble tank and his name is Lieutenant Dan.* I crashed the bike while commuting to work into a stockade fence and bent the front fork. It was still ridable, but I called my wife to come get me due to some bruised ribs on my body. Had this happened on a tour, I could have still ridden it without any concerns for a while. With an aluminum fork, I doubt this would be possible. The 520 has such a loyal cult following, why would Trek make these changes?
*Lieutenant Dan was named by my wife after I returned home from bringing him to my LBS to be fixed. She saw my sad face and asked what was wrong with my bike. When I told her it needed a new front fork, she replied, "Don't worry, Hun. Lieutenant Dan will be home soon." When I gave her a confused look she replied in her best Forrest Gump voice, "Lieutenant Dan! You got new legs!" |
Originally Posted by revcp
(Post 20534817)
You work in a stockade fence?
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naw, it was clear enough.
It was however, a rather interesting visual that came to mind, of some guy riding into a stockade fence hard enough to bend a fork and ding ribs.... that'll teach ya from visiting the saloon before work. |
Originally Posted by djb
(Post 20535927)
naw, it was clear enough.
It was however, a rather interesting visual that came to mind, of some guy riding into a stockade fence hard enough to bend a fork and ding ribs.... that'll teach ya from visiting the saloon before work. OK. I've derailed this thread enough. Back to the new 520. |
We all do that.
Originally Posted by Bassmanbob
(Post 20535847)
excuse me for a poorly phrased sentence. I ran into a stockade fence while commuting to work. |
Originally Posted by revcp
(Post 20536358)
Didn't mean to offend. Just funnin'.
will make a good story one day to tell the grandkids |
Originally Posted by BigAura
(Post 20529065)
More than likely your efficiency is coming from robots, and not a zillion "skilled-people" welders. Other than for highly gifted artisans, welding-skills have no future, as a way to earn a living.
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Originally Posted by BigAura
(Post 20533861)
Thanks, it sounds like you know what you're talking about. How about some stats links? I would love to see how artisans are taking over, and robot-factories are languishing.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...06c30c0000.jpg |
A look at the controversial changes to the frame, fork and components of the 2019 Trek 520 model .
https://www.cyclingabout.com/2019-tr...-touring-bike/ |
Originally Posted by BigAura
(Post 20533861)
Thanks, it sounds like you know what you're talking about. How about some stats links? I would love to see how artisans are taking over, and robot-factories are languishing.
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Originally Posted by pakeboi
(Post 20530489)
Who else makes an aluminum touring bike ?
solo rider ,* used Koga bikes.. |
Originally Posted by phughes
(Post 20537442)
https://www.theatlantic.com/business...he-gap/567434/
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...06c30c0000.jpg |
Originally Posted by linus
(Post 20538893)
Try Google and read some news online. The level of ignorance is too much for me to worth my time.
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Originally Posted by BigAura
(Post 20540109)
Cool! I stand corrected as far as welding jobs, in general. Although I didn't see bicycle frames addressed. But hey, I guess you guys are right :)
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Originally Posted by phughes
(Post 20540120)
Yeah, it made me consider learning how to weld. lol
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