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Old 09-06-18, 07:21 AM
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ACA PCH route decision point south of Santa Cruz?

When I rode the PCH 10 years ago, I pretty much followed the ACA route. I recall a decision point some where south of Santa Cruz. I think it was pretty much the only option suggested by ACA from San Francisco to Santa Barbara.

I am racking my brain, training to figure out where that was. As I recall it was a back road somewhere south of Santa Cruz and I think (but far from certain) north of Moss Landing. as I recall there was a field where they were picking strawberries. At the end of the field was an intersection. The road directly ahead that was a bit of a climb and another road that curved off to the right. ACA said we can take either.

We chose to take the climb. Reasoning is that we could see the climb in front of us but the road to the right was an unknown,.

Can anyone figure out the intersection I am describing? I have been racking my brain and can't figure it out. I have been going over my track and can't think of there that would be.

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You started on the tour yet? september is here .. and slipping away quickly,

get there , ask the locals..

got your Google earth picture/map out?
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I'm a "local" but the only thing I can think of is a short segment where they route you around some of the Highway 1 traffic near Moss Landing. I've got an old book and maps somewhere that I will try to dig out...

That area is really flat. How big was the hill?

There is another place a few miles North of Santa Cruz, just south of the Swanton strawberry farm, where there is an alternate route that climbs up the road to where I live, and then takes you back down through Felton and back into Santa Cruz. That is a LOT of climbing, so chances are you would remember things, including a 10% grade. It also doesn't really match your description of the intersection.

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...since you have time , Get a Map of the County, from the County in question .
Tax Maps are very Detailed..
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Originally Posted by wgscott
I'm a "local" but the only thing I can think of is a short segment where they route you around some of the Highway 1 traffic near Moss Landing. I've got an old book and maps somewhere that I will try to dig out...

That area is really flat. How big was the hill?

There is another place a few miles North of Santa Cruz, just south of the Swanton strawberry farm, where there is an alternate route that climbs up the road to where I live, and then takes you back down through Felton and back into Santa Cruz. That is a LOT of climbing, so chances are you would remember things, including a 10% grade. It also doesn't really match your description of the intersection.
Where we were was very flat. A bit strawberry farm as I mentioned. The road ahead was not very long but it was steep. I seem to remember some homes up there but I might be mistaken. The road to the right was very flat but had a big curve pretty much right away so you could not see very far down the road.

Felton is pretty far from Hwy 1 so I doubt it was that area.
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I pretty much stayed on Route 1 all the way into Santa Cruz. It was only after Santa Cruz I started using back roads.
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Originally Posted by spinnaker
I pretty much stayed on Route 1 all the way into Santa Cruz. It was only after Santa Cruz I started using back roads.
I found my book Bicycling the Pacific Coast (2nd Edition, 1989) and cannot find what you describe. I do remember the Bikecentennial Route (as it was called back then) diverted you briefly from Highway 1 to avoid heavy traffic, but the only hills I remember climbing in that region was near Carmel Valley. (Most of this area is very flat.) I'll see if I can find my maps, but I am not optimistic.
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I will likely order the ACA map. Maybe I can see if it is on there.

The area is burned into my memory because of a certain porta potty. My buddy asked the field supervisor if we could use it. He agreed. The port potty was mounted on a trailer (hey it is a porta potty after all ) . When he went to step inside, the whole thing tipped. I had to stand on the trailer tongue while he used the facilities. We later switched places so I could use it.
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Before you do anything drastic, here is the map on ridewithgps

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/3979076

What you describe sounds like south of mile marker 95 on this map.
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I'm guessing that pic is at mile marker 98.
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Originally Posted by wgscott
I'm guessing that pic is at mile marker 98.
Mile marker 98 where?

I found another pic.

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Originally Posted by spinnaker
Mile marker 98 where?

I found another pic.

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/3979076

Yup. They be near to Watsonville.
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I have no idea why, but I know the spot you're talking about. I biked the coast last summer and remember your description. I think it said Dole owns those fields. Strangely, I do not remember anything past walking my bike up the hill. I'll search for the spot on Google maps and add to this if I find it.
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Originally Posted by travelinhobo
I have no idea why, but I know the spot you're talking about. I biked the coast last summer and remember your description. I think it said Dole owns those fields. Strangely, I do not remember anything past walking my bike up the hill. I'll search for the spot on Google maps and add to this if I find it.
That hill was not very long correct? But really steep? And it came right off of a super flat area?
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I camped at Sunset State Beach in Watsonville, and took the backroads to get there. Some pretty steep hills, and lots of farmland. Probably in that area.
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Okay, I think I've solved it for you. (See fine print of payment due below.) On googlemaps, go to Watsonville. Near the beach, find San Andreas Rd. Follow it southeast til it dead ends into a T. Just continue your arrow across the open expanse to Trafton Rd. Now use street view and follow Trafton southwest to that sharp curve. AFter the curve is where it goes up the steep hill. I thought I remember there being a junction with the choice of another road, but either I'm remembering wrong or this isn't it.

Now, for payment, I'll wait to hear if this is it.
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That is the intersection WGScott pointed out. At first I though was it. But the intersection I am thinking of was more of a Y (3 way) not a 4 way intersection like the one you an WGScott pointed out. The option was to go straight or off to the right. We went straight. Going to the right at WGScott and intersection means a dead end. We certainly did not take the dead end. On reason as we were not camping. Plus I don't remember crossing a bridge right near that intersection And if you look at the profileit is pretty much flat there in every direction/

There is an intersection just beyond there at Trafton that is a likely candidate but we went to the right there. And it looks to be pretty flat.

Unless I am mixing one areas with another intersection.
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I wonder if the map was taking you to a camp spot on the beach? Is there camping down at the state park there?
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How important is this to you? I could go there and scope it out if it helps.
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Originally Posted by wgscott
How important is this to you? I could go there and scope it out if it helps.
Not super important. I am planning on doing the ride next year and will likely follow my old track so I am sure I will be running into it.

Hate to send you on a wild goose chase when my memory might be mixing things up. After all it has been 10 years. But for some reason that intersection is just sticking in my mind. I remember how steep it was and thinking what if we had gone the other way??? If I remember correctly the right (and it was more of a bear to the right as opposed to a sharp right) was a few miles longer so we went straight. But I remember thinking that I might actually prefer riding a bit further if it meant less of a climb.

If I do run into that intersection again O will take the right.

I wish my touring partner and fiend would call me back. It has been months since I heard form him. Like he dropped off the face of the earth. He is not returning calls of other mutual friends either so I know it is not just me.
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I did that ride in 1988.

Now that I live here, I drive south of there to ride in Monterey. It is pretty much the least-desireable place to ride on that route north of LA.

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Well, don't get why it's so important, but whatever. A thank you would have been nice.
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Originally Posted by travelinhobo
Well, don't get why it's so important, but whatever. A thank you would have been nice.
No you are just pissed because you aren't going to get paid. I didn't know if you were kidding or serious. Now I am pretty sure you were serious. So just do yourself a favor and just don't "put yourself out" to help next time.
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