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Old 10-11-18, 09:32 AM
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Natural disasters

Three places Iíve toured in the past three years have had major natural disasters soon thereafter.

The Florida Keys were devastated by Hurricane Irma in 2017.
Big Sur had bridges destroyed and massive landslides in 2017.
And now Hurricane Michael ripped through the Florida Panhandle. Coincidence?

Anyway, my thoughts and prayers are with the people of the Florida Panhandle.






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Old 10-11-18, 11:43 AM
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I'm pretty sure you don't want to bike tour anywhere near here. Too many hills for flatlanders, not enough views if you like mountains, too hot in summer, too cold in winter. And with your record, we don't want you here either!

While I also feel for the people living on the Gulf coast, I hope the storm blows quickly past the Carolinas so they don't get any more flooding.
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Old 10-11-18, 11:51 AM
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I 2000 and again last year I rode through some areas in Montana that experienced major fires a month or so later. Also in 2000, I rode from Seattle to Mesa Verde N.P. and was living in the campground there with some friends who were interning for a month. Park caught on fire due to a lightning strike. My tent was turned into Swiss cheese. Had to shack up in the house in town were the rest of the students were staying.

In 1999, I had to get a motel room in NY to wait out Hurricane Floyd before finishing resuming my tour the next day, which was gorgeous.

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Old 10-11-18, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by alan s View Post
Three places Iíve toured in the past three years have had major natural disasters soon thereafter.(...) Coincidence?

Anyway, my thoughts and prayers are with the people of the Florida Panhandle.


That is kinda weird but OTOH Florida & California coast are esp vulnerable areas. I hope things work out for Floridians, pretty bad hit.
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Old 10-13-18, 03:28 PM
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I'd rate the Big Sur problems at a lot lower level. That area has slides and washouts with every extra-rainy winter.

Now if you had visited the San Andreas fault on the alternate ACA inland route and triggered the Big One...stay away from Lassen Volcanic Nat'l Park also, please. Lake Tahoe has also had underwater landslides that triggered megatsunamis...
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Old 10-13-18, 03:42 PM
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Any specific requests? I prefer coastal areas. PNW is high on my list of places to visit.

Seriously though, Mexico Beach was absolutely wiped out. I had a nice lunch there at Sharon’s and took a break on the city pier. I doubt they will ever fully recover.

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Old 10-13-18, 03:44 PM
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Was in eastern Bavaria when an overnight storm swamped my campsite
while I was in my tent.
1991, coming back from seeing eastern Europe ,
shortly after the Warsaw pact dissolved,

It had a memorable outcome , by, when seeking help ,
I became a guest of the Burgermeister and his family for a few days,
drying my gear out,
before being taken to the train station and riding it to Munich,
then to Strasbourg,
well to the west of the stormy weather..




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Old 10-13-18, 04:13 PM
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Don't come here.

They're predicting a once in 300 year earthquake in Oregon. Likely followed by some major coastal tsunamis. Cat 9?

It could well be one of the strongest earthquakes to hit the lower 48 since the nation was founded.

Oh, and stay away from Yellowstone... that place is a tinder box ready to explode.
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Old 10-13-18, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by alan s View Post
Any specific requests? I prefer coastal areas. PNW is high on my list of places to visit.

Seriously though, Mexico Beach was absolutely wiped out. I had a nice lunch there at Sharonís and took a break on the city pier. I doubt they will ever fully recover.
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Don't come here.

They're predicting a once in 300 year earthquake in Oregon. Likely followed by some major coastal tsunamis. Cat 9?

It could well be one of the strongest earthquakes to hit the lower 48 since the nation was founded.

Oh, and stay away from Yellowstone... that place is a tinder box ready to explode.
Yes, we definitely don't want him to come here. We're on borrowed time as it is, no need to call the loan. Besides, no one knew about the Cascadia fault until just about twenty years ago, so nothing is built to withstand it, and we haven't upgraded our building codes.
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Old 10-13-18, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by B. Carfree View Post
Yes, we definitely don't want him to come here. We're on borrowed time as it is, no need to call the loan. Besides, no one knew about the Cascadia fault until just about twenty years ago, so nothing is built to withstand it, and we haven't upgraded our building codes.
I'm not sure when they started realizing the issues, but when we built the house in 79/80, we had to add a lot of rebar and bring it up to earthquake code. It seemed a little silly at the time, but that is what Lane county demanded.

Anyway, we have at least 40 or 50 years of reasonable earthquake standards. But, that still leaves a lot of old homes and buildings and bridges that aren't up to snuff.

The government has been working on updating bridges, but if we were to get a category 9, it would be bad. I can't say the codes we had 40 years ago would be adequate. No doubt builders would be busy for at least a decade.
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Old 10-13-18, 09:57 PM
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The northwest does also get the occasional typhoon. A few big blows here and there, but the last one of any significance was in 1962.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columb..._Storm_of_1962

It is probably about time for another storm to put Florida to shame.
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Old 10-13-18, 10:11 PM
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I was born in Eugene, so unfortunately it’s definitely on the list. I’ll give you a heads up when I plan to visit. Already have the itinerary planned out from the eclipse when I was thinking of going there. Glad I didn’t go then, because the sun may never have returned.
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2007, a cyclone was carried north from the warmer tropical Pacific ,
by the winter storm track,
the 'Pineapple express' because it typically picks up water laden clouds
from around Hawaii,
but those usually do not rotate around an eye, like a Typhoon/hurricane,
with high speed winds.
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Originally Posted by fietsbob View Post
2007, a cyclone was carried north from the warmer tropical Pacific ,
by the winter storm track,
the 'Pineapple express' because it typically picks up water laden clouds
from around Hawaii,
but those usually do not rotate around an eye, like a Typhoon/hurricane,
with high speed winds.
Ha! He said Pineapple Express! 🍍😁 That's one of the better strains, for medical mj. 😉
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Old 10-15-18, 07:09 PM
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Don't forget about the 2011 DC-area earthquake & 2018 endless rain: Alan S-related?? This would have been the year for a belt-drive bike.
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Old 10-15-18, 08:38 PM
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Don't worry about Yellowstone; it shows no signs of an impeding eruption at all, despite all the fear mongering. Its last minor eruption was 70,000 years ago, comparing with a few hundred years ago for the Long Valley caldera in California (also not gonna go kaboom anytime soon)

A Cascadia earthquake is something to make residents sweat, though--along with another major collapse of Mt Rainier leading to another massive mudflow that wipes out everything all the way to Puget Sound.
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Old 10-15-18, 09:45 PM
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I know the scenes in all those pictures quite well. Sad to think of what the view is now.
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Originally Posted by stardognine View Post
Ha! He said Pineapple Express! 🍍😁 That's one of the better strains, for medical mj. 😉
A Low THC buzz, high CBD, Medical strain ?

repeating , meteorology minded,
It's The weather system pattern in the Pacific Ocean , which has little meaning to Colorado.
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