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gorob23 10-11-18 11:02 AM

Euro Mapping
 
Ok I have looked and looked and figured IF I finally asked for help somebody would point the answer out right in front of me.

I am trying to find maps (paper) for a trip down the Atlantic Coast of France and into Spain and Italy. I am looking to start at Dunkirk.

I see the Euro # 1 and 4 but I don't see anything that says we can buy them, are they downloadable ? Are there anything like the ACA maps for Europe? I have found the Sustrans but that's for the UK ?
Is there a better way than I am considering?

Ok What am I missing !

Thanks
Rob

fietsbob 10-11-18 11:15 AM

I bought maps in Book Sellers As I went Along..

large panel maps, I refolded as I went off that section ,
a Nautical chart cover will keep them dry..

saddlesores 10-11-18 11:26 AM

the amazon has them.

gorob23 10-11-18 12:32 PM

thanks So am I correct that the maps for cars will work just as well or are the Marco polo maps also for bikes ...

indyfabz 10-11-18 12:43 PM

Michelin makes many great regional maps for Europe.

axolotl 10-11-18 03:52 PM

When you arrive in France, both Michelin and I.G.N. (Institut Geographique National) maps are readily available and are both great for cycling. The Michelin 1:150,000 maps show bike paths. Most shops which sell newspapers or books carry these maps. Michelin also has regional maps for Spain, but the scale (1:400,000) isn't as good as their maps for France. I found them to be quite acceptable when I was touring in northern Spain, however. Touring Club Italiano publishes excellent 1:200,000 maps for Italy. Michelin also publishes maps for at least the northern half of Italy, but with a scale of 1:400,000.

spinnaker 10-11-18 05:40 PM

I don't know about France but I can tell you that just about every town in Italy has at least one tourist offices. They all have maps of their region. Nice an small, specific to that region and since they are free you don't feel bad about tossing them when no longer needed. The larger towns often have some really nice bicycle specific maps.

Tandem Tom 10-11-18 05:57 PM

Just returned from 8 weeks of touring across France Germany and Denmark. Used the Michlen maps while in France. They were great! Found a France book and just took the pages we needed.

schnellfahrer 10-11-18 09:11 PM

axolotl has it. I was pretty happy with the Michelin maps on my trip through France and was bummed if I couldn't find them, they are the best. I learned about them by asking someone in a book shop or store when in Morlaix. I think I also used the Touring Club Italiano in Italy for the same reason, the Michelin maps were inadequate for Italy.

Machka 10-12-18 02:49 AM


Originally Posted by gorob23 (Post 20611383)
Ok I have looked and looked and figured IF I finally asked for help somebody would point the answer out right in front of me.

I am trying to find maps (paper) for a trip down the Atlantic Coast of France and into Spain and Italy. I am looking to start at Dunkirk.

I see the Euro # 1 and 4 but I don't see anything that says we can buy them, are they downloadable ? Are there anything like the ACA maps for Europe? I have found the Sustrans but that's for the UK ?
Is there a better way than I am considering?

Ok What am I missing !

Thanks
Rob

Do you mean this route?

https://www.velodyssey.com/

Rowan and I rode part of it. We started in Bordeaux, cycled out to Lacanau Ocean on a paved cycling path ... that was great!! And then headed north to La Rochelle.

It's a part of France we would love to return to. We've even talked about renting a house there for a while.


As for the route, we were able to pick up a couple maps in Lacanau Ocean which were just fine.

However, that website above allows you to print off details from each of the sections. Have a browse around that website.


You might also find this site useful: http://www.eurovelo.com/en/

Through that site, I also located Euro 4: https://en.tourdemanche.com/ It also shows sections of the route which you can print.

paulthepyke 10-12-18 05:33 AM

I just got back from 4 weeks in Italy and even though I had the paper maps, all I used was google maps and it was so helpfull, usually I don't like to rely on technology but man it really made navigating so much easier. 22 Euros for 20 GB of data(I only used 2 GB) and it was well worth the cost.

Paul

indyfabz 10-12-18 07:25 AM

A for places to see/stay/eat and those to avoid, I like the Rough Guide travel book series. They don't sugarcoat things. E.g., If a hotel sucks, they will say it sucks.

gorob23 10-12-18 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by axolotl (Post 20611872)
When you arrive in France, both Michelin and I.G.N. (Institut Geographique National) maps are readily available and are both great for cycling. The Michelin 1:150,000 maps show bike paths. Most shops which sell newspapers or books carry these maps. Michelin also has regional maps for Spain, but the scale (1:400,000) isn't as good as their maps for France. r

great to hear, the idea of going and seeing what they have is a little out of my "plan things ahead of time" thinking but it also appeals to me with the idea of "it's part of the adventure and it's not like it has been done before".


[QUOTE=Machka;20612411]Do you mean this route?

https://www.velodyssey.com/

Yes I guess I am so used to the ACA maps I have never seen the 'details" of these maps. The Eurovelo 1 & 4 are the ones. So I am guessing they have the turns I will need.

Originally Posted by paulthepyke (Post 20612477)
I just got back from 4 weeks in Italy and even though I had the paper maps, all I used was google maps and it was so helpfull, usually I don't like to rely on technology but man it really made navigating so much easier. 22 Euros for 20 GB of data(I only used 2 GB) and it was well worth the cost.

Paul

Ok that's the other option.


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 20612622)
A for places to see/stay/eat and those to avoid, I like the Rough Guide travel book series. They don't sugarcoat things. E.g., If a hotel sucks, they will say it sucks.

Good to know !

Thanks it's the "unknwn that makes it exciting and a little unnerving.

​​​​​​​Thank you everyone.

Rob

indyfabz 10-12-18 11:25 AM

[QUOTE=gorob23;20613116]

Originally Posted by Machka (Post 20612411)
Good to know !

Thanks it's the "unknwn that makes it exciting and a little unnerving.

​​​​​​​Thank you everyone.

Rob

I used the Rough Guide to Andalucía and the Michelin map of the territory to plan a seven week tour there back in 2000. The book called out one place for being a "clip joint."
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Machka 10-12-18 06:57 PM

[QUOTE=gorob23;20613116]great to hear, the idea of going and seeing what they have is a little out of my "plan things ahead of time" thinking but it also appeals to me with the idea of "it's part of the adventure and it's not like it has been done before".



Originally Posted by Machka (Post 20612411)
Do you mean this route?

https://www.velodyssey.com/

Yes I guess I am so used to the ACA maps I have never seen the 'details" of these maps. The Eurovelo 1 & 4 are the ones. So I am guessing they have the turns I will need.


They are signposted ... mostly. You get to know what to look for. Occasionally the signposting seems to disappear for a while, and that's when you might pull out a map.

And as I say, the tourist information centres have maps and things.

Machka 10-12-18 07:07 PM

If you go here: Machka - 2012 Round the World Tour ... and scroll down to "Thursday 13 September - We are in ... Bordeaux!" ... that's where our Velodyssey Route story begins.

And there are photos here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/machka...7631877281412/



And some of the signs ...



https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a16a4618b2.jpg




https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8070/8...b315570f_c.jpg

gorob23 10-13-18 01:08 PM

Absolutely Perfect! Thank you all for the info. nice to get a visual and and know I will be following in good footsteps.
Thanks

Rob


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