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linus 11-28-18 04:36 PM

Wolftooth Pack Wrench
 
I've been using a Shimano cassette/bb tool and 24mm Park Cone wrench for my Centerlock rotors, but they are rather heavy and cone wrench can't take 40Nm.

So I was looking for an alternative and found this Wolftooth Packtool. The wrench has 1" Hex for their inserts or other brand tools with 1" Hex ends and the other end is standard external bb tool. Another cool feature is that Hex-end has three magnets that snap the inserts of their tools. Brilliant! Not to mention the wrench weighs 99g and cassette insert weighs 31g.

I think this will benefit people here more than anybody.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4879/...8a9839af_k.jpg

CliffordK 11-28-18 04:56 PM

Interesting. :)

I rarely need to pull a cassette on the road, but one of the reasons would be broken spokes. And, using straight-pull spokes, they can be replaced without pulling the cassette.

Of course, that probably is only good for road bikes, not heavy touring.

:foo:

Perhaps you could convince Wolftooth to grind nipple notches into their cassette insert. :)

Actually, as I was fighting with tubeless the other day, I found that my spokewrench was perfect for removing valve cores. :)

chrisx 11-28-18 05:47 PM

Do not forget to order


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...720ceed2ae.jpg
a chain link tool.
They have nice stuff, but, they are over priced.

Tourist in MSN 11-28-18 06:01 PM

Thanks for posting, I have been looking for a light weight 1 inch wrench to use on Park brand cassette tools. But, at the price of that wrench, I think I will keep looking for something to replace my adjustable wrench. I did find one of those wrenches that before shipping cost was a hair under $35, but that is more than I want to pay right now. I have an old Nashbar cassette tool that I filed two of the flats down on it so I could use a smaller adjustable wrench.

CliffordK 11-28-18 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by chrisx (Post 20682477)
Do not forget to order

a chain link tool.
They have nice stuff, but, they are over priced.

Is that for quick links?

The Wippermann links are toolless, both for installation and removal, but unfortunately are a bit expensive, at least for the 11 speed links.

Storage for spare parts inside the wrench is cool.

linus 11-28-18 06:23 PM

I know people have a different priority, but think about how much you are saving here. $10~20? Isn't it better to have great working tools than half modified cheaper alternatives at mediocre saving?



Originally Posted by CliffordK (Post 20682417)
Interesting. :)

I rarely need to pull a cassette on the road, but one of the reasons would be broken spokes. And, using straight-pull spokes, they can be replaced without pulling the cassette.

Of course, that probably is only good for road bikes, not heavy touring.

:foo:

Perhaps you could convince Wolftooth to grind nipple notches into their cassette insert. :)

Actually, as I was fighting with tubeless the other day, I found that my spokewrench was perfect for removing valve cores. :)

I guess that's not a bad idea, but the majority of people carry multi-tools if they want to carry these tools so might be not necessary.

Yes, Shimano nipple wrench works well with Presta valve cores.

Marcus_Ti 11-28-18 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by CliffordK (Post 20682508)
Is that for quick links?

The Wippermann links are toolless, both for installation and removal, but unfortunately are a bit expensive, at least for the 11 speed links.

Storage for spare parts inside the wrench is cool.

Yup, pliers for locking links like SRAM PowerLink or KMC. Has magents to hold the quicklinks in and the tool shut. Has storage for two pair of quick links. Also has valve-locknut and tubeless-valve-core wrenches. It is a nice tool.

Only criticism is that the aluminum tire liver can scratch alloy rim paint/peening.


https://www.wolftoothcomponents.com/...ts/pack-pliers

skookum 11-28-18 08:34 PM

Good quality tools are worth the money. I don't need that wrench right now, but if I was going to be travelling South America, for example, I would probably spring for it.
I like the pliers. Thanks for pointing this out linus, I will bookmark the page.

cb400bill 11-28-18 10:01 PM

Lets keep the political content in the Politics forum.

skookum 11-28-18 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by cb400bill (Post 20682764)
Lets keep the political content in the Politics forum.

There's a politics forum? I think I'd be afraid to go there.

J.Higgins 11-29-18 05:45 AM

C'mon, guys. BUY the sweet bling from Wolftooth! Treat yourself right! :D

linus 11-29-18 09:44 AM

I guess I missed some posts???

Anyway, I'm pretty sure it's too late for this year's trip since I'm leaving on Monday, but I ordered it today. Hopefully next-day service actually works.

seedsbelize 11-29-18 11:11 AM

I haven't tried it yet, but my plan is to put a socket over the freewheel remover, and use a cheater, if necessary to get it loose. Granted, cheaters are not an everyday find out on the road, but, with luck, My brute strength will be enough.

fietsbob 11-29-18 11:17 AM

with a fat 50+ tire , you hardly need any tire levers at all ..
clever they let you pack quick links inside.
combined with your multi-tool chain breaker and a length of your same chain,
it should get you back out of the boonies when you blow out a chain..




...

CliffordK 11-29-18 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by seedsbelize (Post 20683321)
I haven't tried it yet, but my plan is to put a socket over the freewheel remover, and use a cheater, if necessary to get it loose. Granted, cheaters are not an everyday find out on the road, but, with luck, My brute strength will be enough.

I'm not sure about brute strength with a hand holding the socket.

However, I think there was a tool with a notch that could be clipped over a guardrail, sign post, mileage marker post, etc.

seedsbelize 11-29-18 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by CliffordK (Post 20683416)
I'm not sure about brute strength with a hand holding the socket.

However, I think there was a tool with a notch that could be clipped over a guardrail, sign post, mileage marker post, etc.

There would be a ratchet handle clipped to the socket--a short one. But yes, it's likely brute strength won't do it. I'm gonna try it at home, on a freewheel I installed a few years ago, so it won't be a great test for one that is really on there. The one in question is in Youngstown, Ohio, and will be picked up by me and ridden across the state, next Spring. I have no idea how long it's been on there, but I'd like to change it out to a wider range.

Tourist in MSN 11-29-18 05:21 PM

Good luck getting that freewheel off.

I bought a vintage bike that had sat outside rusting for over a decade. It took me a lot of work, a lot of penetrating oil, and a bit of heat (hair dryer, did not want to use anything that would damage paint), to get the bottom bracket out of the frame. Plus putting my foot with my weight on it on a 15 inch long wrench helped a little.

linus 11-29-18 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by fietsbob (Post 20683331)
with a fat 50+ tire , you hardly need any tire levers at all ..
clever they let you pack quick links inside.
combined with your multi-tool chain breaker and a length of your same chain,
it should get you back out of the boonies when you blow out a chain..




...

I don't ride that fat, but I don't use tire levers at all. I know it's fine to use on my carbon rims, but I still don't want to take chances with my rims while I'm on a tour.

I do find quick-links are a pain when you try to take them apart without the tool.



Originally Posted by seedsbelize (Post 20683629)
There would be a ratchet handle clipped to the socket--a short one. But yes, it's likely brute strength won't do it. I'm gonna try it at home, on a freewheel I installed a few years ago, so it won't be a great test for one that is really on there. The one in question is in Youngstown, Ohio, and will be picked up by me and ridden across the state, next Spring. I have no idea how long it's been on there, but I'd like to change it out to a wider range.

A 1inch socket and a ratchet? That's got to be a pound or more.:eek:

ColonelSanders 11-29-18 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by chrisx (Post 20682477)
Do not forget to order


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...720ceed2ae.jpg
a chain link tool.
They have nice stuff, but, they are over priced.


That is exactly what I have been looking for. Thanks for that. :thumb:

seedsbelize 11-29-18 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by linus (Post 20683943)
I don't ride that fat, but I don't use tire levers at all. I know it's fine to use on my carbon rims, but I still don't want to take chances with my rims while I'm on a tour.

I do find quick-links are a pain when you try to take them apart without the tool.




A 1inch socket and a ratchet? That's got to be a pound or more.:eek:

3/8. Perhaps I'm being overly confident. I'm going to change the tires on that bike in the next few days. I'll take the opportunity to see how it goes and report back.

DrIsotope 11-29-18 09:14 PM

I love me some WolfTooth, and I didn't even know that chain link tool was a thing. Ordered one today. :D

chrisx 12-01-18 12:51 AM

How long will the aluminum tool last?
Does steel cost more to manufacture than aluminum?

Those wolf tooth guys have some good ideas sure,
but
their level of greed stops me from ordering.

Is the $20.00 Park tool just to heavy
https://www.universalcycles.com/imag...edium/1808.jpg

linus 12-01-18 02:17 AM


Originally Posted by chrisx (Post 20685882)
How long will the aluminum tool last?
Does steel cost more to manufacture than aluminum?

Those wolf tooth guys have some good ideas sure,
but
their level of greed stops me from ordering.

Is the $20.00 Park tool just to heavy
https://www.universalcycles.com/imag...edium/1808.jpg

FYI, the Parktool wrench weighs 275g and it doesn't include their 70g cassette tool that requires another wrench. Yes, that's 3 times heavier than the Packwrench that doesn't require an extra wrench.

fietsbob 12-01-18 11:52 AM

So? check out the relative cost of a CNC Milling machine, and a 20+ ton punch press?

chrisx 12-01-18 02:06 PM

Moderator, move this thread to the classified adds
 

Originally Posted by linus (Post 20685902)
FYI, the Parktool wrench weighs 275g and it doesn't include their 70g cassette tool that requires another wrench. Yes, that's 3 times heavier than the Packwrench that doesn't require an extra wrench.

$19.90 vs $34.95, Park tool will last a life time, aluminum wolf tool will not last.


Is this a rude post that should not be on the bike forum?

Do you work for Wolf Tooth? Why do you think talking about over priced tools is a personal insult and respond with an insult?
If you do not work there why would you care what I type?
I suspect this is a sales pitch disguised as a post.
I never buy tools from rude sales people.


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