J.Higgins 

Lol, true. I'm a eucalyptus man, myself.

Hypno Toad

I'm sorry I didn't think to add this masterpiece to this thread earlier. Catch the crapper at the 2018 Filthy 50



Photo credit - https://tollymon.wixsite.com/filthy-fifty-crapper
Be sure to look through the pictures, there's some greens in here

djb

man, that looks like a pretty grim riding day. Near freezing, wet mud and crap.

but if they had used fenders, they'd be all squeaky clean ;-)

I set up my troll with loads of fender clearance, but so far havent had to ride through slop really, so dont know how it would handle roads like that. Doesnt look too gooey, but who knows.

ps, pretty goofy, but funny name of I presume, a 50 mile ride, and the moveable crapper is the mecca at teh end I guess?

J.Higgins 

I think the sloppiness is part of the allure for a ride like that, DJ. My Troll fender clearance is a bit low for a road like that, but I left a good 2cm of fender stay so it could easily be adjusted on the road if need be.

Hypno Toad

I was riding The War Rig (drop-bar Pugsley) - there aren't many good full fender options for fatbikes, I keep a Mud Shovel on the rear to keep the big tire from spraying my back with tons for slop.

Trenton is the mastermind behind The Filthy 50, and he also created/runs The DAMn (Day Across Minnesota). He's so creative, and a great guy.

The 2018 Filthy 50 was the most difficult 50 miles I've ever ridden! I've done this ride 3 or 4 times over the years and it's typically an idyllic Autumn day - mild temps and sunny. In 2018, there was a parade of riders doubling-back to start line over the first 6-8 miles ... I've never seen that before. After the ride, I heard one racer say he couldn't feel his toes at mile 5 and it wasn't gonna get any better.

To get a feel for the day (and the mess), here's a short YouTube edit from my GoPro:

indyfabz

This crappy thread is now on page No. 2. See what I did there?

J.Higgins 

There's a lot of crap in this crappy thread. Lessons learned? Watch out for #1 and don't step in #2 .

alan s 

Hypno Toad

True story ^^^^ been there and done that.

djb

as has Tom Dumoulin.


he was pretty fast, and was able to make back the lost time and win the Giro.

Hypno Toad

Winning this thread ^^^

alan s 

djb

finally got to watch the edit, was fun to watch.
If I had good judgement, I'd be home on the couch..." that made me chuckle.

yup, pretty darn grim looking.
hey, i see you also use gevenalles. I love mine on my Troll, once I figured out the barrel adjuster I put in wasnt holding position properly, and also figured out then to set the tension better (was often compensating for ghost shifts with a bit too much lever tension) , they work great and Ive spent many months riding my bike on trips with them. Changed the barrel adjuster for the rear to a proper one and it works a lot better, rd is a mtb rd that doesnt have a barrel adjuster on the rd, a XTR.
In this photo, the hoods are slightly higher than later, I changed the bar tape after this trip and lowered the hoods down a bit, put them in a slightly more comfortable position for shifting for the next trips.

I tried to see your finishing time, but the lens was so blurry when you passed the timeclock, I couldnt read it.
Hey, back in the 30s and 40s, there used to be a scene transition technique called a "swipe", I liked your literal swipes of the gopro to get the crap off it, made great transitions.

Again, congrats on finishing that. An 80k ride in cold wet like that, oof, quite an achievement. Ive ridden maybe 5 hours in 7c rain and it was pretty damn miserable. Hope you had some rain pants and a reasonable waterproof top, not to mention a balaclava and whatnot to keep the cold air from coming in. Really, that looked miserable, can see why 230 or 240 dnf'd.
Who knows if my fenders would have helped, probably a bit, and at least would have helped the drivetrain a bit, but probably just a bit. That sort of riding is the worst on a drivetrain, wet constantly, fine mud and abrasive....wear-o-rama.

ye troll, somewhere in Honduras.

Hypno Toad

LOL, thank you! and Love that Troll!

djb

If I recall, they did. And it seems to me that some said, well, if he didnt manage his eating and stuff right, then its all part of the game (me paraphrasing)
the best part was the commentators realization and "no, NO , NOOO" hoping the cameraman would turn away. I was watching the race from daily recaps, so I dont think I saw it live, but it did make for some drama thats for sure. Seems to me he only lost a few minutes tops, made some back soon, and then made a bunch back on the final tt I think.
I hope they had some Purell readily available at the finish line.

djb

thanks,
and I love it too.
Very much "old school", 26in stuff, 9 speed, mtb triple 44/32/22 that works great loaded up in mountainy areas for me, and 26in wheels lower the gearing a bit, which to me is a big plus.
Gevenalles are not as fast as brifters, but as you know, a pretty good simple alternative and option to bar ends, which I wasnt keen on using.
Behaves very competently in all kinds of riding, works great as a dropbar bike, handles a load well, steers nicely even loaded up (quicker steering of its mtb roots remains fairly light and not too slow, I like this a lot on downhills as it can change direction pretty good for a heavy ass touring bike)
and can take up to 2.5in easily, less than the 2017 and onwards model, but still nice.

Hypno Toad

I love the Gevenalle shifters! I have SRAM brifters on my gravel bike and they can gum up in wet-gravel conditions. Gevenalles have never failed me, and as we've talked about, riding them in the toughest conditions.

For self-supported adventures, there's no school like the old school! Readability > 'fast'

djb

and I like how in the 10 spd versions, they have the two little brake cable end holder things , so they can work with mtb brake (long) or road bike pull (short) brakes with the same shifters, pretty cool option. As I have BB7s, long pull, and the 9 speed gevenalles are one or the other, I have the long pull versions.

I would happily get a 10 spd set if setting up a 10 spd bike, and I find for touring they are a pretty neat compromise of being close to brifter usage feel, but with the simple reliability you bring up, and you've ridden in crappy conditions way more than me.
The right shifter rubber thing right on the actual shifting part is a teensy bit loose, do you have any suggestions of glue? Ive just never gotten around to doing it as its not an issue, but probably would be good to glue it a bit sometime.

BillyD

This thread is done.