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KingstonChen 04-14-19 11:13 PM

How to carry hiking/camping gears on a bike?
 
I'm planning a camping trip to Garibaldi Provincial Park, which is 8 hours by bike from Vancouver. I have two rear panniers and a hiking backpack. The dilemma is that I don't want to hike up 1500m with two panniers in my hands, but I don't want to carry all the weight on my back during the 8-hour bike trip either. Anyone has any suggestions on carrying the gears?

Thanks!

Happy Feet 04-15-19 12:11 AM

Full panniers and empty pack on the bike ride. Stuff empty panniers and gear into pack for the hike. Or store empty panniers with bike while hiking. Where will you lock it?

saddlesores 04-15-19 06:21 AM

full backpack should fit in a bob trailer.

andrewclaus 04-15-19 07:50 AM

Look into ultralight backpacking. I cycle easily and often with an ultralight hiking kit. My loaded pack (without consumables) weighs less than ten pounds. It all fits into my two rear panniers, which I leave on the bike at trailheads. I hide the bike and lock it.

The downside is the time and cost of refitting. It took me several seasons and a lot of hiking to reduce the pack weight that much. Ultralight gear often carries a learning curve with it, like dealing with condensation in a single-wall shelter.

Traditional backpacking gear means you're going to have to tough it out and carry a lot of stuff on the bike. I met a guy in NZ cycling between tramps and his load was unbelievable.

fietsbob 04-15-19 10:40 AM

You can load your back country back pack (and hiking boots) in a bike trailer , such as a Burly Flatbed,

and not need the panniers as backpacking and bike camping can use the same gear

what is your plan for securing your bike at the trail head?

KingstonChen 04-15-19 11:02 AM

Thank you all for your suggestions. I'm going to lock my bike on a tree or something, and hope people won't cut the tree...
@andrewclaus ultralight backpacking sounds attractive, I'll keep that in mind for my future trips.
@saddlesores @fietsbob Comparing to a trailer I'd rather carry the backpack (to force myself to pack minimal things)

fietsbob 04-15-19 01:20 PM

I have seen a convertible pannier back pack, pictured..
Not in person so I cannot guess if its such a compromise to not be great at either to try to be both..

Always seem to think of Swedish Mountaineer Goran Kropp who rode from Stockholm to Nepal , summited Everest (w/o bottled oxygen)
Then rode home again..

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._biking_95.gif

Darth Lefty 04-15-19 01:55 PM

I remember seeing some pretty large backpacks that did not have a frame or padded straps, and packed down really small. They were intended for day packs when you leave your big pack and bedroll at camp. You'd just wad it into a corner of your pannier and reload when you get to the trailhead.

Edit: like this
https://www.rei.com/product/148594/r...-flash-22-pack
If you want to carry your bedroll at the same time you would lash it on like we used to with external frame packs.

KingstonChen 04-15-19 02:26 PM

@fietsbob That's impressive! "Then rode home again" sounds like he went to a nearby park lol, but in fact its from Stockholm to Nepal... and the mountain is Everest! Full respect to him!

MarcusT 04-15-19 10:12 PM

I would try to create a way to strap the backpack to the rack and ditch the panniers.

Happy Feet 04-16-19 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by MarcusT (Post 20886584)
I would try to create a way to strap the backpack to the rack and ditch the panniers.

Cue gratuitous pictures!

This is what I did on a 2 week Rocky Mountain tour a couple of years ago. I used a MEC 20L Raptor pack for hiking day trips on a wide Filzer PR-4 rack. Now with my modest UL gear I could do a spartan overnighter or weekend (1 man tent, thermarest, Hot Core 100 bag) but would have to pack smart. For a long day hike it was fine.

https://live.staticflickr.com/4733/2...0935f350_b.jpg


https://live.staticflickr.com/4401/3...da214d68_b.jpg


https://live.staticflickr.com/4399/3...140254eb_b.jpg

BobG 04-16-19 09:26 AM

I carried this fairly large MountainSmith pack for 6 weeks through New Zealand in anticipation of hiking stops. It was back in 1992 when I was young and strong like bull! I just lashed it onto the rack as if it were a large trunk bag with my sleeping bag and tent inside. I just had to be careful to lash the straps securely to keep them out of the spokes. I don't have a close up photo of it on the bike. Here is a distant one to give you the idea...

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...480d55db9d.jpghttps://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9d24d94172.jpg

ericzamora 04-16-19 12:09 PM

Not sure if you have Ortlieb, if this is universal in some way, or there's another similar product, but i came across this recently during my internet ramblings/
Ortlieb's Pannier Carrying System
https://www.ortlieb.com/us/pannier-carryingsystem

The idea of simply strapping your backpack to your rear rack seems the most practical

eric/fresno, ca.

CliffordK 04-16-19 01:24 PM

There are a number of convertible backpack panniers.

The most elaborate system is the Richard Jones system.

https://pannierbackpacks.com/

https://pannierbackpacks.com/wp-cont...e-2048x480.png

https://www.cyclingabout.com/wp-cont...e-Panniers.jpg

I've been dreaming about that pack system for a few years, but have no idea how well it actually carries.

However, there are numerous "Day Pack" panniers that would be good for shorter excursions. Or, perhaps reduce what needs to be carried.

One of my concerns is bike security. I haven't tried these panniers, and I really don't want to leave my bicycle overnight at the trailhead. However, I'd probably carry the bike up the trail, maybe 1/2 mile, then off the trail a bit, so it is out of sight from both the parking lot and the trail head, and lock it to a tree.

KingstonChen 04-17-19 01:47 AM

@CliffordK great suggestion! I'll try to hide my bide too.

nicolaasdekker 04-17-19 02:40 AM


Originally Posted by CliffordK (Post 20887493)
I've been dreaming about that pack system for a few years, but have no idea how well it actually carries.

.

Me too! I have wanted one of these my whole life. But now that I can actually afford them I am hesitant as I doubt they provide enough functional volume for full time touring..

CliffordK 04-17-19 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by nicolaasdekker (Post 20888214)
Me too! I have wanted one of these my whole life. But now that I can actually afford them I am hesitant as I doubt they provide enough functional volume for full time touring..

Most of my trips have been shorter, but it appears as if there is quite a bit of total volume in that set, although some items might be frustrating to pack into small pockets/bags.

One might be able to tie certain items onto either the outside of the panniers or pack, although one might run into issues with large bulky heavy items that would end up with poor weight distribution with either the bike or pack.


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