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riverdrifter 04-16-19 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by 79pmooney (Post 20886606)
Has anyone tried tire-savers on their tires? If not, why not? They wouldn't stop all goathead flats but done right, should get most of the goatheads that didn't penetrate fully the first time.

https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop...s/tire-wipers/

Not advocating for Rene Herse, just found this website and its nice picture. (And $18? For a little wire, plastic tube and ancient technology.) We were using the exact same tire-savers 50 years ago, just no color and no stainless steel. Also minus that cute little loop around the throat. They worked very well. So did ones I made from scratch. (I used them on the east coast so I have no goathead experience with them, hence my question.)

You can make your own with 14 or 15 gauge spokes and that tubing sized to be a tight fit. I'd rather have 15 gauge but the tubing and a nice fit would decide it for me.
(I regularly rebuilt mine with the spoke wire after the tire area wore out.)

They are not perfect. They make noise, are a small amount of friction and spray dust and debris over your bike. It is normal to run them from the brake bolts; easy before the short bolts and recessed nuts. Sheldon nuts and a little re-working of the bolt loop with needle nosed pliers solves that nicely. You can also spare the seat tube and BB area clean(er) with the rear one mounted on the fender bolt hole on the chainstay support if you are lucky enough to have one. Aim the one at the front brake forward. Most of the dust you will see will be blow back, not a direct hit. On fendered bike, I used to mount them inside the fender. Not as easy but that did cure a lot of the mess. Other plus - they wiped your fendered rear tire - hard to do savely with your fingers

Ben

Wow, I've never seen anything like that! Thanks for the info.

cyccommute 04-16-19 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by robow (Post 20886585)
Gee, what a nice guy.....with friends like that : )

Did I mention dinosaur tracks?

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...7001c0f1_o.jpg
Pugatory 6 by Stuart Black, on Flickr
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...726a38a2_o.jpg
96090018 by Stuart Black, on Flickr

Apatosaurus tracks showing herd behavior.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...7bf2990d_o.jpg
89150010 by Stuart Black, on Flickr

Allosaurus track

https://live.staticflickr.com/1826/2...d1e47bdd_o.jpg
DSCN0033 by Stuart Black, on Flickr

More Apatosaurus tracks

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...a49b2c95_o.jpg
89150011 by Stuart Black, on Flickr

Allosaurus track showing stalking behavior.

There's even sex! Those are tail drags. Dinosaurs didn't drag their tails except for one reason.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...5d42c1b6_o.jpg
IMG_0491 by Stuart Black, on Flickr

I do warn people before we go but they don't grasp how many goat heads there are out there.

cyccommute 04-16-19 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by curbtender (Post 20886599)
So what's worse, goat heads or star thistle?

Goat heads by 14 country miles.

ThermionicScott 04-16-19 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by 79pmooney (Post 20886606)
Has anyone tried tire-savers on their tires? If not, why not? They wouldn't stop all goathead flats but done right, should get most of the goatheads that didn't penetrate fully the first time.

https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop...s/tire-wipers/

Not advocating for Rene Herse, just found this website and its nice picture. (And $18? For a little wire, plastic tube and ancient technology.) We were using the exact same tire-savers 50 years ago, just no color and no stainless steel. Also minus that cute little loop around the throat. They worked very well. So did ones I made from scratch. (I used them on the east coast so I have no goathead experience with them, hence my question.)

You can make your own with 14 or 15 gauge spokes and that tubing sized to be a tight fit. I'd rather have 15 gauge but the tubing and a nice fit would decide it for me.
(I regularly rebuilt mine with the spoke wire after the tire area wore out.)

They are not perfect. They make noise, are a small amount of friction and spray dust and debris over your bike. It is normal to run them from the brake bolts; easy before the short bolts and recessed nuts. Sheldon nuts and a little re-working of the bolt loop with needle nosed pliers solves that nicely. You can also spare the seat tube and BB area clean(er) with the rear one mounted on the fender bolt hole on the chainstay support if you are lucky enough to have one. Aim the one at the front brake forward. Most of the dust you will see will be blow back, not a direct hit. On fendered bike, I used to mount them inside the fender. Not as easy but that did cure a lot of the mess. Other plus - they wiped your fendered rear tire - hard to do savely with your fingers

Ben

Those are made by a BF member, I might add. :thumb:

riverdrifter 04-16-19 09:16 AM

cyccommute - Awesome pics!

Darth Lefty - Yeah I've got 3 young kids (and all their friends) constantly tracking thorns into the house in their shoe bottoms. We try to catch 'em at the door, but that doesn't always happen. I've had more stuck in my feet than I ever imagined possible.

robow 04-16-19 09:28 AM

OK true, seeing dinosaur tracks would justify the risk of goat heads but I do hate the damn things and glad we don't have to deal with them here.
Btw, goat heads are present on the ever popular Katy trail so take a good look at Stewart's photos so you know what to avoid.

CraigMBA 04-16-19 10:03 AM

+1 on tubeless and I advocate for Orange Seal. It coagulates better than Stans IMO but at the expense of longevity. Add a little every 90 days and it's fantastic.

But be warned - if you get a big flat because of cut (I went through six Maxxis Rambler tires in less than a thousand miles) the spare innertube needs to have sealant too. All those goatheads the sealant has been covering for will perforate the tube in about a minute.

stardognine 04-16-19 01:36 PM

I knew it, this really is a scary topic. I thought it was just me, for awhile there. 🙄😉


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