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Old 03-24-20, 04:29 AM
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Rethinking Touring Gear List For Light Weight Travel

Has anyone's bicycle touring plans change since the current situation our societies been undertaking? This can be a good time to rethink gear packing.
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Old 03-24-20, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by illjustride View Post
Has anyone's bicycle touring plans change since the current situation our societies been undertaking? This can be a good time to rethink gear packing.
absolutely!

i have added a paper mask in a ziploc bag to my hbar bag.
only used when i stop at convenience stores or fast food joints.
or if touring, when checking in at hotels.

already carry a couple disposable plastic gloves from kfc for chain repair.

probably should also add a small bottle of hand sanitizer as well.


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overly self-centered(IMO)

Until you're in the Covid-recovered-group doing a tour is a bad idea and overly self-centered(IMO).

Possible Exception: Touring in remote area, with zero-interaction with others. Which means bringing everything you need for the entire tour. Of course ultra-lightweight is out of the question.

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Originally Posted by BigAura View Post
Until you're in the Covid-recovered-group doing a tour is a bad idea and overly self-centered(IMO).

Possible Exception: Touring in remote area, with zero-interaction with others. Which means bringing everything you need for the entire tour. Of course ultra-lightweight is out of the question.
Sounded to me as if the OP is merely THINKING about changing his gear, NOT actually touring at this time.

It's also a great time to overhaul your bike or make any changes to it that you were/are thinking of doing. I'm going to slightly modify a couple of my bikes.

Cheers
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Originally Posted by Miele Man View Post
Sounded to me as if the OP is merely THINKING about changing his gear, NOT actually touring at this time.

It's also a great time to overhaul your bike or make any changes to it that you were/are thinking of doing. I'm going to slightly modify a couple of my bikes.

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My post-point stands.

BUT I agree thinking-dreaming about future tours is a good-thing. The current crisis will pass and touring will survive as a doable endeavor.
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Old 03-24-20, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by BigAura View Post
Until you're in the Covid-recovered-group doing a tour is a bad idea and overly self-centered(IMO).

Possible Exception: Touring in remote area, with zero-interaction with others. Which means bringing everything you need for the entire tour. Of course ultra-lightweight is out of the question.
I think this is a good position.

Tours that include hotels, dining in cafes, public transit etc... are probably not the best idea at present.
Shorter self supported tours in rural/remote settings that allow social distancing while carrying all your supplies may be the way to go this summer.
In that regard, the only change I see is adding capacity for a duration supply of food. I'm already doing the bikepacking thing.
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Old 03-24-20, 09:40 AM
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Some of the posts on this forum sound like some people have more time on their hands right now than they are used to having. And I think this thread is an example. I do not mean that in a negative way, please do not take it that way.

I agree mostly with everything above, but I do not see how the virus will cause people to plan to go lighter.

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Changes that I think the virus will dictate is:

- How do you get to your starting point? I am avoiding international travel and travel by air, train or bus at this time.

- Most of my tours in USA were in places where more than half the time I did not have cell coverage. And my foreign trips, I did not have a sim card so cell coverage did not matter as I had none. I would not want to go anywhere now where I could not get help. That means both proximity to help and ability to make contact for help. I would not want to be far from help and get badly sick.

- I do not see how the virus would cause me to make changes to go lighter. Most of my tours were intentionally where I was far from retail stores, etc., so I generally carried a lot of contingencies, including a spare tire on some trips. If you are more likely to find retail stores are closed, going lighter weight might not be a great idea.

- Most people I have met or that have commented on this forum that travel ultra light are on shorter trips of five or less days or are traveling where retail stores have been readily available almost every day, or both. For example the ultra light bikepackers that I have seen doing single track were out for no more than three days.

- Food is heavy. I have carried over two and a half weeks of food at the start of one of my bike trips, that is not ultra light. I have done some two week long kayak trips where I started out with over 30 pounds of food when you include the weight of the dry bags it was in. On a flat water kayak trip like Lake Superior, there are are no hills so if I could get the weight of the canned goods in the boat, that did not slow me down like it would on a hilly bike trip.

Last summer I went backpacking for two weeks in Northern Minnesota. Hiking on a backpacking trail is pretty much the definition of social distancing. The segment that I planned to hike this year would mostly have been out of cell coverage and I would have needed a shuttle ride to get to the starting point. Due to the virus, my plans have changed, if I go I plan to stay where I have cell coverage and will be able to walk out to a road within a day. Unsure yet if I will avoid the shuttle, but since the shuttle might not even run, my initial planning is to avoid relying on it.

And if I do that backpacking trip, I will need to buy gas on the drive there and on the drive home. Fortunately, you can pay at the pump. I could do the entire trip with social distancing and not having to stop at any other places where I could pick up something contagious.
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Old 03-24-20, 12:10 PM
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All good points. Added advantage kayaking on a lake, plenty of water. Social distancing is shorthand for reduced interactions. Those interactions have a time dimension as well as a distance. Overtaking a walker on a MUP is probably not much of a danger even though you get inside the magic 6' radius (2 Meters, in the non US). Hand sanitizer is probably a good idea. I'm wondering about bunkhouses, dorms in hostels, and air B&Bs, and will campgrounds even be open?
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... I'm wondering about bunkhouses, dorms in hostels, and air B&Bs, and will campgrounds even be open?
In USA a lot of govt campgrounds (state parks, etc.) are closed at this time, impossible to say what the future brings. In Wisconsin the state parks are open but the campgrounds within those parks remain closed until further notice.

Hostels, I have no clue, but I would avoid them myself at this time. That said, I normally am a regular hostel user on bike tours, stayed in three different hostels on my tour last summer. You could check the HI website and see what they are saying.

I would even be nervous about motels considering that the virus can live over two weeks on surfaces.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/23/cdc-...gers-left.html

I think any trips I do this year will be 100 percent camping.
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Old 03-25-20, 03:26 AM
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Great video. Lots of off topic over reaction in thread to someone thinking about their gear list.

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Old 03-25-20, 03:37 AM
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I agree that it might be a good time for some to tweak their packing lists and maybe dream about future trips, but probably not any time real soon. Me, my list has been tweaked a million times and with no bike trip in the near future I don't have much interest in doing that again at this point in time. To be honest I have even lost interest in dreaming about future bike trips at this point.
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Originally Posted by BigAura View Post
Until you're in the Covid-recovered-group doing a tour is a bad idea and overly self-centered(IMO).

Possible Exception: Touring in remote area, with zero-interaction with others. Which means bringing everything you need for the entire tour. Of course ultra-lightweight is out of the question.
I agree, it might not be a problem if one is 100% self-supporting. Bring 100% of the food one needs for the 2/3 day out and back ride. Is one riding from the doorstep, park & ride, or planning on taking public transportation?

NYC is one of the biggest Coronavirus hotspots in that nation. Please don't spread it.

Ride out and back without any contact and you're OK. Don't stop in stores, or "hang out" around others.

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As far as gear, did I miss the personal hiegene products?

Personally I have no need for CO2 cartridges.

Couple of spokes, nipples, a spoke wrench, and a chain tool are useful for me. Again, plan on being 100% self-supporting. Tire boot provisions?
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I agree, it might not be a problem if one is 100% self-supporting. Bring 100% of the food one needs for the 2/3 day out and back ride. Is one riding from the doorstep, park & ride, or planning on taking public transportation?

NYC is one of the biggest Coronavirus hotspots in that nation. Please don't spread it.

Ride out and back without any contact and you're OK. Don't stop in stores, or "hang out" around others.

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As far as gear, did I miss the personal hiegene products?

Personally I have no need for CO2 cartridges.

Couple of spokes, nipples, a spoke wrench, and a chain tool are useful for me. Again, plan on being 100% self-supporting. Tire boot provisions?
I go double duty and use a Clif Bar wrapper or if I am out a dollar bill for a tire boot. Heck I once used a receipt because that is all I had luckily it was a commute home and I wasn't super duper far when it occurred and I believe it was on the front if memory serves so I wasn't so worried.

CO2 is relegated to my Ti road bike pouch and even then I haven't used it yet and don't really want to but I generally don't tour on that bike or go long distances in the middle of nowhere without some support or a phone to call someone.
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It's also a great time to overhaul your bike or make any changes to it that you were/are thinking of doing.
Really good idea and so I'm off to clean and repack the bearings of my hubs and might as well true the wheels while I'm at it.
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