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2021 Sutra (I Finally Ordered it!)

Old 07-18-20, 03:02 PM
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2021 Sutra (I Finally Ordered it!)

After much hemming and hawing I've finally ordered the 2021 Sutra from my LBS. I'm nearly 50 and need to encourage myself to do more cardio and or course cycling is good for that as well as transportation.

As has been the case for awhile there don't seem to be any major changes, but my LBS told me Kona modified the HT angle/length slightly to provide a more upright position. At some point I'll probably do an electric conversion as well. The color is OK, though I'd prefer something brighter for better visibility, but that's a minor gripe. Other than that it seems like a great bike and a great value.
https://www.konaworld.com/sutra.cfm
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When do the expect delivery?
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Old 07-18-20, 03:48 PM
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When do the expect delivery?
They told me about 4-6 wks.

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Old 07-18-20, 04:03 PM
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If you have not cycled much, it can take some time to get all the adjustments (seat height, seat set back, etc.) to fit you well because you are not really sure what a good fit is. If you make frequent adjustments but keep the adjustments small (say 5mm seat height adjustment at a time), you can get it to feel just right. If you carry a multi-tool, that makes it easier to make frequent adjustments while you ride. Different stem length and angle are often needed to get a new bike dialed in too.

Flashing lights and a bright color jersey or jacket aids visibility much more than frame paint color.
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Old 07-18-20, 04:21 PM
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While I haven't in about 7-8 years I used to cycle regularly. I know bikes have changed since, but they haven't changed that much so am pretty familiar with the fitting process. The first accessories I need are pedals, a helmet, and lock. That will get me started anyway. I'll probably find a basket for the rack at first; panniers aren't a huge priority right not.

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Old 07-18-20, 10:55 PM
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The one thing I wish I'd thought of before buying the 2020 Sutra, is to ask the shop it they would substitute a different color of Brooks B17. The honey colored one really does stand out when nothing else on the bicycle matches it.

What I did have the shop substitute was to Marathon w/Greenguard tires, as they roll much better on packed (asphalt, etc) pavement than the Mondials, yet they still work well on gravel roads.

The rack that the Sutra comes with does not accommodate a basket being lashed to the top of it. I bought an aftermarket rack by Salsa, Wanderlust HD (the chromoly one). It has a much wider top and - importantly for a basket - a flat top.

The sizing of the 2020 models didn't comport with the company's own sizing chart. I am 5'6" with 29.5" inseam and the 46cm size is what I settled on, even though the chart suggested the 48cm or 50cm. This might be something to prepare yourself for.
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The one thing I wish I'd thought of before buying the 2020 Sutra, is to ask the shop it they would substitute a different color of Brooks B17. The honey colored one really does stand out when nothing else on the bicycle matches it.
I could give half a crap about aesthetics. As long as it's functional I don't care how it looks.

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What I did have the shop substitute was to Marathon w/Greenguard tires, as they roll much better on packed (asphalt, etc) pavement than the Mondials, yet they still work well on gravel roads.
I'll ride the Mondials until they wear out and then get durable all-road tubeless tire.

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The rack that the Sutra comes with does not accommodate a basket being lashed to the top of it. I bought an aftermarket rack by Salsa, Wanderlust HD (the chromoly one). It has a much wider top and - importantly for a basket - a flat top.
With ingenuity a basket will fasten to any rack. All it takes is bungees and/or screws.

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The sizing of the 2020 models didn't comport with the company's own sizing chart. I am 5'6" with 29.5" inseam and the 46cm size is what I settled on, even though the chart suggested the 48cm or 50cm. This might be something to prepare yourself for.
Yeah, Kona's sizing is pretty weird/atypical. I'm 5'9" with a 31" inseam. Their chart showed either a 52 or 54 would work and my LBS recommended a 52 would probably fit a little better. Hopefully it will.
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Originally Posted by Nyah View Post
The one thing I wish I'd thought of before buying the 2020 Sutra, is to ask the shop it they would substitute a different color of Brooks B17. The honey colored one really does stand out when nothing else on the bicycle matches it.
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Honey darkens up with age. The one in the photo has mostly had touring use but not day to day use, about eight years old and is the Conquest, not the B17. With enough bags and other stuff on the bike, nobody will notice the saddle color.

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Originally Posted by AlanK View Post
After much hemming and hawing I've finally ordered the 2021 Sutra from my LBS. I'm nearly 50 and need to encourage myself to do more cardio and or course cycling is good for that as well as transportation.

As has been the case for awhile there don't seem to be any major changes, but my LBS told me Kona modified the HT angle/length slightly to provide a more upright position. At some point I'll probably do an electric conversion as well. The color is OK, though I'd prefer something brighter for better visibility, but that's a minor gripe. Other than that it seems like a great bike and a great value.
https://www.konaworld.com/sutra.cfm
Just an FYI: Nothing has changed on the Sutra or Sutra LTD. The geometry has remained exactly the same. The new ULTD has a different HT angle and fork length.
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Nice bike, the Kona Sutra was one of my two top choices for a touring bike I got about 2 months ago; after looking at around 12 to 15 touring bikes in that price range, I settled on the Masi Giramondo 700c, it had more of the stuff I was looking for in a touring bike. But man, I was bouncing back and forth between those two.
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Old 07-23-20, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by greatscott View Post
Nice bike, the Kona Sutra was one of my two top choices for a touring bike I got about 2 months ago; after looking at around 12 to 15 touring bikes in that price range, I settled on the Masi Giramondo 700c, it had more of the stuff I was looking for in a touring bike. But man, I was bouncing back and forth between those two.
The Giramondo is also a really nice bike, but, yup, you guessed it, I prefer the Sutra. While the Tubus racks on the Giramondo are first rate, the tire and wheels seem inferior because they only have 32-spokes and the Kenda Quick tires are too wide and aren't as nice. They're also QR, which aren't as stiff or durable as the TAs on the Sutra.

It's still a nice bike, but to keep it at that price-point with the Tubus racks they had too make too many compromises IMO.
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OP, did your shop come through with the bike? Around here, Iíve been told no stock until maybe November.
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Old 08-21-20, 10:30 AM
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OP, did your shop come through with the bike? Around here, Iíve been told no stock until maybe November.
No, In the first post I typed 2-3 wks, but should have typed 4-6. Hopefully sometime in September but we'll see. I haven't checked with them lately, but considering the supply chain is greatly compromised, it wouldn't surprise me if it doesn't arrive until November as you say.
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Nice.
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Wow they're still putting triple chainrings on bikes!?
Nice bike BTW
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Old 08-28-20, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bOsscO View Post
Wow they're still putting triple chainrings on bikes!?
Nice bike BTW
Of course, and good that they do! Fewer is not more, not even acceptable.

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